Santana vs. Randy

[gabe1984]

There was a little debate going on about this in the Brady's Bedtime Buddies thread. I just want to bring this out in the open for everyone to discuss. Right now, which Moss would you rather have on the team, Santanna or Randy. I'm sayin Santanna.

1) Randy Moss is getting old, while Santanna is in the prime of his career.

2) Randy Moss is afraid to get hit, while Santanna constantly goes over the middle and takes shots. I have seen Randy Moss stop running routes before because he knew he was going to get hit. If you doubt me, watch the 2001 NFC Championship game when the Giants spanked Minnesota. He wouldn't even sacrifice his body in a big game.

3) Randy takes plays off, Sanatanna goes hard the entire game.

4) Randy has a huge ego and an attitude problem while Santanna just wants to win.

5) Randy does not have the YAC ability that Santanna has. While Randy may be a better deep ball threat, Santanna is no slouch there either. Brunell to Moss, TD! Brunell to Moss, TD! Does anyone remember that game?

While in the prime of his career Randy may have be better than Santanna, there is no way I'd rather have him on the Skins than Santanna right now.

[12thMan]

There's only one receiver in the entire NFL that I would take over S. Moss; Steve Smith. And even then I feel like I'm splitting hairs.

[Daseal]

I think Randy Moss is the overall better player than Santana, I think we'll see what Randy has left in NE. If it's truly gone or just part of being part of an anemic offense. I like Santana, last year he proved a lot to me, but I still think he's at the bottom 10 or maybe even 15 receivers in the NFL.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I think Randy Moss is the overall better player than Santana, I think we'll see what Randy has left in NE. If it's truly gone or just part of being part of an anemic offense. I like Santana, last year he proved a lot to me, but I still think he's at the bottom 10 or maybe even 15 receivers in the NFL.

No way. I think he's easily in the top 5. Even if you're not a Skins fan.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, I have to agree with 12th here. While Santana hasn't consistently put up the numbers you want to see from an elite receiver in the league, I would still say top ten.

[MTK]

Our Moss needs to bounce back and put up 1000+ to be in the conversation for best WRs in the league again. Yes he was nicked up last year and playing with a less than desirable QB situation, but still, 2005 was a long time ago.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Our Moss needs to bounce back and put up 1000+ to be in the conversation for best WRs in the league again. Yes he was nicked up last year and playing with a less than desirable QB situation, but still, 2005 was a long time ago.

The same could be said for Randy Moss too. When was the last time he put up stellar numbers?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Our Moss needs to bounce back and put up 1000+ to be in the conversation for best WRs in the league again. Yes he was nicked up last year and playing with a less than desirable QB situation, but still, 2005 was a long time ago.

And what worries me was that was his knock before coming to Washington. At least it's not for a lack of effort from Santana as it is from Randy.

[gabe1984]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I think Randy Moss is the overall better player than Santana, I think we'll see what Randy has left in NE. If it's truly gone or just part of being part of an anemic offense. I like Santana, last year he proved a lot to me, but I still think he's at the bottom 10 or maybe even 15 receivers in the NFL.

If he's in the bottom 10-15, I want to know who you think is better than him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The same could be said for Randy Moss too. When was the last time he put up stellar numbers?

I agree, but if you want to compare their careers there's simply no comparing them. Randy has had a Hall of Fame career, I don't think the same could be said of Santana.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree, but if you want to compare their careers there's simply no comparing them. Randy has had a Hall of Fame career, I don't think the same could be said of Santana.

Correct. I actually think R.Moss is a lock for the Hall.

But over the past, let's say three seasons, S.Moss all day long in my book.

[MTK]

Our Moss has a bit more to prove in my book when comparing him to Randy, that's all I'm saying.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I think Randy Moss is the overall better player than Santana, I think we'll see what Randy has left in NE. If it's truly gone or just part of being part of an anemic offense. I like Santana, last year he proved a lot to me, but I still think he's at the bottom 10 or maybe even 15 receivers in the NFL.

C'mon man, bottom 10 or 15? I know you thrive on pessimism but jeez

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

C'mon man, bottom 10 or 15? I know you thrive on pessimism but jeez

I'm assuming he meant bottom of the top 10 or 15 (i.e. 14/15). Awkward phrasing though.

Off the Top of My Head and In no particular order, the top 15 receivers (give or take a few) in the league. So you are telling me Moss is at the bottom of that? Who would you take over him (not counting age)? Smith, Holt, C. Johnson, Harrison, Fitzgerald, maybe Andre Johnson (who would be a real stud on a better team). So that still puts you at #7 on a bad day, but I guess you could make the argument for #9 or 10 . . . certainly not out of the top ten though.

Steve Smith
Chad Johnson
Marvin Harrison
Reggie Wayne
T.O.
Donald Driver
Torry Holt
Randy Moss
Laverneous Coles
Hines Ward
Andre Johnson
Javon Walker
Fitzgerald
Boldin
Santana Moss

[MTK]

I'm waiting to hear Daseal proclaim his love again for David Boston.