ARE vs. Lloyd for the number 2 WR spot

[Bill B]

Just heard on Sporstalk 980 from the Redskin report by Jerry Coleman that ARE leads Brandon Llyod for the number 2 WR spot opposite of Moss. Not looking to good for Llyod but it is only training camp - but this has got to be a big letdown to Llyod and his supporters since this is probably Llyod's put up some numbers or be cut year.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Just heard on Sporstalk 980 from the Redskin report by Jerry Coleman that ARE leads Bradon Llyod for the number 2 WR spot opposite of Moss. Not looking to good for Llyod but it is only training camp - but this has got to be a big letdown to Llyod and his supporters since this is probably Llyod's put up some numbers or be cut year.

I don't think much of Brandon Lloyd's character. He thinks way too highly of himself and consequently thinks he can get by on the talent he was given.

10 pounds or not, the guy's a bum because you can't count on him. Every now and then he'll show up to make a big play, but he's so inconsistent that he's sure to let you down when you really need him to come through.

This is a timing offense, and the fact that Lloyd didn't take the time to get with JC in the offseason to get the timing down speaks volumes to me. JC is going to favor Moss and ARE, as well as Cooley because of the rapport.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I agree. B Lloyd seems to think that it is all about him. He really should have sat down with JC this off-season to get timing down. He is right now the 4th option in the mind of JC and that will remain that way until he shows otherwise.

(we could've had Darrell Jackson for a 4th rounder, but we gave 2 picks to San Fran for Lloyd)

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't think much of Brandon Lloyd's character. He thinks way too highly of himself and consequently thinks he can get by on the talent he was given.

10 pounds or not, the guy's a bum because you can't count on him. Every now and then he'll show up to make a big play, but he's so inconsistent that he's sure to let you down when you really need him to come through.

This is a timing offense, and the fact that Lloyd didn't take the time to get with JC in the offseason to get the timing down speaks volumes to me. JC is going to favor Moss and ARE, as well as Cooley because of the rapport.

I was wondering why he didn't practice with JC as well and instead trained with Shawn Springs in Arizona. Wouldn't it make more sense to train with the qb you are going to be working with?

[GTripp0012]

James Thrash for president. Or No. 2 receiver.

Look, I want ARE on the field as much as possible. If that makes him a "No. 2 receiver", thats fine by me. But in a 3rd down situation, the first read should be Cooley, the second should be Moss, and the third should be Thrash, more often than not.

[Krills]

I think you guys need to cut him some slack. He pissed me off last season too, but this is a new year. The reason that he is #3 on the depth chart right now is because that's how the season ended last year. So far this year, he has said all the right things. Lets hope things work out because we certainly need them too. I love James Thrash, but he is not a go to receiver anymore.

[jsarno]

We don't seem to have a #2 or #3 position, so I don't think that really matters.
ARE is a lesser talented Moss.
We need Lloyd to step up.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

We don't seem to have a #2 or #3 position, so I don't think that really matters.
ARE is a lesser talented Moss.
We need Lloyd to step up.

The only reason that ARE is ahead is because that's the way they finished last season. Anybody eho has watched both the Al Saunders and Joe Gibbs press confrences knows that.

[freddyg12]

Loyd may be the wild card for the whole offense. If he steps up, we're dangerous. If not, the good defenses will be able to match up.

Like a lot of us, I think it was a terrible trade to get him & he seems to be more of a problem than he's worth, but I'm hoping he can at least be a deep ball specialist. I don't think he'll ever be a tough move the chains reciever, but he's comfortable going deep & going up for the ball.

[Meks]

thrash made more clutch catches than Lloyd and ARE combined last year... everytime he gets a pass thrown his way, at least all most everytime, he catches the damn ball...

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

unfortually neither is more than a number 3 wr. but i will take ARE over LLoyd any day. Guess we got what we paid for huh?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Loyd may be the wild card for the whole offense. If he steps up, we're dangerous. If not, the good defenses will be able to match up.

Like a lot of us, I think it was a terrible trade to get him & he seems to be more of a problem than he's worth, but I'm hoping he can at least be a deep ball specialist. I don't think he'll ever be a tough move the chains reciever, but he's comfortable going deep & going up for the ball.

I think he bulked up this off-season with the intent of being the "over the middle" guy

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Meks

thrash made more clutch catches than Lloyd and ARE combined last year... everytime he gets a pass thrown his way, at least all most everytime, he catches the damn ball...

Umm, Thrash only caught a TOTAL of 12 balls for 151 yards last year.
Stop thinking he is anything special...he isn't.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think he bulked up this off-season with the intent of being the "over the middle" guy

And he will be...he'll get more opportunities to actually catch the ball this year.
We all want Lloyd's head on a platter, but fact is, Lloyd couldn't do shit last year cause the ball was rarely thrown in his direction.
Give him a chance, and he might show us something.

[chrisl13]

whether ARE or Lloyd are #2 or #3 respectively, it doesnt even matter because just about 90% of our games were started in a 3 wide receiver set. to me they'll both get just about the same amount of playing time.

I also think Lloyd will step up by the time the season starts