What do you guys think of R.Williams

NFLNetwork · 07-27-2004, 11:18 PM

I know this has been posted...but i have to comment of this. Most people would agree everyone has the right to persue happiness, so WHY do people seem to be so upset about Ricky!?!?! would you rather he play and take a pounding for a game he didn't want to play? What are his alternatives? Timing was poor...but what should he say, "hey coach, i'm thinking of retiring"?? Next thing, they'd bring in another RB and are pushing him to renegotiate his contract to pennies, not to mention the media bashing him. He has anxiety disorder, and he can't change that, so media bashing is 20 times worse for him.

SKINSnCANES · 07-27-2004, 11:30 PM

apparently he has been saying he wants to retire, and that it was known by those around him that this season was going to be his last no matter what, and he was just playign this year for the team, but decdied he couldnt do that.

MTK · 07-27-2004, 11:40 PM

Yeah the timing sucks for the team, but what's the old saying that teams always throw around when they cut someone? It's a business?!

I wish Ricky all the luck, I think it's kinda refreshing that guys like Sanders, Smith and now Williams can walk away from the game so easily and in their prime. Just goes to show that there's more to life than just football.

beg8878 · 07-28-2004, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just goes to show that there's more to life than just football.

For Ricky though, its pot........

I think he has every right to do what makes him happy but he should have had enough class to do it the proper way. He should have told Wannstadt that he was contemplating it so that the dolphins could have had some type of backup plan. To just up and leave like he did is classless.

Have any of you switched jobs before? if you did, did you just leave or did you do it with a little class and give two weeks notice?

SKINSnCANES · 07-28-2004, 12:57 AM

haha, how come when you get fired they dont give you two weeks notice. As far as im concerned he didnt owe them anything and we dont owe our employers anything. Players dont get a two week notice before they are cut so he has every right to do the same.

lol

itvnetop · 07-28-2004, 01:03 AM

I think Ricky told everyone (including his coach) he was pretty much deciding to leave... but they were trying to convince him otherwise for a good couple of weeks. I also think it's way more than the pot thing... if someone doesn't want to play anymore, how good is he going to be within the dynamic of the team he plays for? It's still amazing to me how a man can turn away millions of dollars and a rock star lifestyle because he wants more out of his life. He seems like a smart guy (read somewhere he talked to his agent for a half hour about the Da Vinci Code... how many ball players can say that?) who really wants to explore the world.

It also seems in recent interviews, he was really displeased with his FO's lack of addressing offensive options to help his workload. I think he mentioned he felt his carries were going to go up even higher next year (having already led the league in carries/game). It's easy as an armchair q-b to criticize that's part of being a superstar football player, but look at some of those old running backs now- some can't even walk right. And if Ricky wasn't really into being a football superstar in the first place, the decision to protect his elderly years seems to make more sense.

Of course i'm not a dolphin fan and if this would have happened with Portis I may be a little more homer about it hahaha.

Skins fan 44 · 07-28-2004, 02:38 AM

I just think what he did was wrong. You dont just turn your back on the team before the season starts. If he is going to retire great. Do it after the season, before the draft, before June when some rbs come up. Not before camp starts.

SKINSnCANES · 07-28-2004, 02:59 AM

has bruce smith retired yet?

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-28-2004, 12:24 PM

who r we to tell someone else what's the "right" thing for them to do? He's said he knows that there is going to be an avalanche of negativity towards him over his decision but he's tired of making others happy and wants to finally make himself happy. I say good for you Ricky, go spend time traveling the world, learning, and spending time with your kids.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 07-28-2004, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Skins fan 44

I just think what he did was wrong. You dont just turn your back on the team before the season starts. If he is going to retire great. Do it after the season, before the draft, before June when some rbs come up. Not before camp starts.

I agree he might as well suited up for the first game and then walked off the field during the first play.

I think he was right to leave and I think this quote from Levar is dead on. "I don't want a guy on my team that doesn't want to be here."

peace

That Guy · 07-28-2004, 12:51 PM

I wish him the best of luck and hope he's been smart enough with his money. He did totally screw his team though... don't know if he told the GM/coach and they blew him off, or if he thought it'd create media chaos... but that sucks for them.

sportscurmudgeon · 07-28-2004, 01:28 PM

Dan LeBatard of the Miami Herald said on PTI and on Dan Patrick's radio show that one of the things Ricky Williams wants to do is to go to Latin America and learn Spanish. LeBatard and Williams are collaborating on a biography of Williams so LeBatard gets to talk to him a bit more than most folks.

Look, I think education is really great and I admire someone who wants to leran new things. I also think learning other languages is important. Unfortunately, I am fluent in only two languages, English and Profane.

However, I do have one question here:

How hard would it be to learn Spanish in Miami?

Redskins_P · 07-28-2004, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Dan LeBatard of the Miami Herald said on PTI and on Dan Patrick's radio show that one of the things Ricky Williams wants to do is to go to Latin America and learn Spanish. LeBatard and Williams are collaborating on a biography of Williams so LeBatard gets to talk to him a bit more than most folks.

Look, I think education is really great and I admire someone who wants to leran new things. I also think learning other languages is important. Unfortunately, I am fluent in only two languages, English and Profane.

However, I do have one question here:

How hard would it be to learn Spanish in Miami?

LOL. Not hard at all. There are places down there that say "We speak English" . You don't have to go South America to learn spanish. Buy a freaking video. Its easy to learn.

Riggo44 · 07-28-2004, 01:33 PM

His timing makes him look selfish and stupid!! He should have let Miami know how he felt in Jan. I think he owes it to his team to play the season!

Daseal · 07-28-2004, 01:36 PM

Had he done this at the end of the year I completely understand where he's coming from. Ricky Williams is a head case. He's absolutely nuts, and he has been since college. He's so painfully shy it hinders him horribly in life.

He owes it to the Dolphins (who have done everything in the world to try to accomidate Ricky) to at least give them warning from the day after their season ends.

07-27-2004, 11:18 PM	#1
NFLNetwork No new threads for you Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 122	What do you guys think of R.Williams I know this has been posted...but i have to comment of this. Most people would agree everyone has the right to persue happiness, so WHY do people seem to be so upset about Ricky!?!?! would you rather he play and take a pounding for a game he didn't want to play? What are his alternatives? Timing was poor...but what should he say, "hey coach, i'm thinking of retiring"?? Next thing, they'd bring in another RB and are pushing him to renegotiate his contract to pennies, not to mention the media bashing him. He has anxiety disorder, and he can't change that, so media bashing is 20 times worse for him.

07-27-2004, 11:30 PM	#2
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	apparently he has been saying he wants to retire, and that it was known by those around him that this season was going to be his last no matter what, and he was just playign this year for the team, but decdied he couldnt do that. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

07-28-2004, 12:57 AM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	haha, how come when you get fired they dont give you two weeks notice. As far as im concerned he didnt owe them anything and we dont owe our employers anything. Players dont get a two week notice before they are cut so he has every right to do the same. lol __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

07-28-2004, 02:38 AM	#7
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	I just think what he did was wrong. You dont just turn your back on the team before the season starts. If he is going to retire great. Do it after the season, before the draft, before June when some rbs come up. Not before camp starts. __________________ HTTR!

07-28-2004, 02:59 AM	#8
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	has bruce smith retired yet? __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

07-27-2004, 11:40 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Yeah the timing sucks for the team, but what's the old saying that teams always throw around when they cut someone? It's a business?! I wish Ricky all the luck, I think it's kinda refreshing that guys like Sanders, Smith and now Williams can walk away from the game so easily and in their prime. Just goes to show that there's more to life than just football.

07-28-2004, 01:03 AM	#6
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	I think Ricky told everyone (including his coach) he was pretty much deciding to leave... but they were trying to convince him otherwise for a good couple of weeks. I also think it's way more than the pot thing... if someone doesn't want to play anymore, how good is he going to be within the dynamic of the team he plays for? It's still amazing to me how a man can turn away millions of dollars and a rock star lifestyle because he wants more out of his life. He seems like a smart guy (read somewhere he talked to his agent for a half hour about the Da Vinci Code... how many ball players can say that?) who really wants to explore the world. It also seems in recent interviews, he was really displeased with his FO's lack of addressing offensive options to help his workload. I think he mentioned he felt his carries were going to go up even higher next year (having already led the league in carries/game). It's easy as an armchair q-b to criticize that's part of being a superstar football player, but look at some of those old running backs now- some can't even walk right. And if Ricky wasn't really into being a football superstar in the first place, the decision to protect his elderly years seems to make more sense. Of course i'm not a dolphin fan and if this would have happened with Portis I may be a little more homer about it hahaha.

07-28-2004, 12:24 PM	#9
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	who r we to tell someone else what's the "right" thing for them to do? He's said he knows that there is going to be an avalanche of negativity towards him over his decision but he's tired of making others happy and wants to finally make himself happy. I say good for you Ricky, go spend time traveling the world, learning, and spending time with your kids.

07-28-2004, 12:51 PM	#11
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	I wish him the best of luck and hope he's been smart enough with his money. He did totally screw his team though... don't know if he told the GM/coach and they blew him off, or if he thought it'd create media chaos... but that sucks for them.

07-28-2004, 01:28 PM	#12
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Dan LeBatard of the Miami Herald said on PTI and on Dan Patrick's radio show that one of the things Ricky Williams wants to do is to go to Latin America and learn Spanish. LeBatard and Williams are collaborating on a biography of Williams so LeBatard gets to talk to him a bit more than most folks. Look, I think education is really great and I admire someone who wants to leran new things. I also think learning other languages is important. Unfortunately, I am fluent in only two languages, English and Profane. However, I do have one question here: How hard would it be to learn Spanish in Miami?

07-28-2004, 01:33 PM	#14
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	His timing makes him look selfish and stupid!! He should have let Miami know how he felt in Jan. I think he owes it to his team to play the season! __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

07-28-2004, 01:36 PM	#15
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Had he done this at the end of the year I completely understand where he's coming from. Ricky Williams is a head case. He's absolutely nuts, and he has been since college. He's so painfully shy it hinders him horribly in life. He owes it to the Dolphins (who have done everything in the world to try to accomidate Ricky) to at least give them warning from the day after their season ends.

What do you guys think of R.Williams

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