Joey Harrington

jsarno · 10-03-2007, 02:11 AM

I think there are a lot of people that dogged him that now need to give him some props.

983 yards, 4tds, 2ints, and a 71.2% comp %. 98.2 QB rating.
He's 9th in yards, and 4th in comp%. He's 10th in 1st downs for qb's,

He's one of the hottest QB's in football. 584yards and 4 td's in last 2 games.

wilsowilso · 10-03-2007, 02:32 AM

Those stats are pretty darn good, but that guy has been a massive bust as the number three overall pick. He deserves no props yet IMO. Maybe if he actually keeps it up for a season and or the Falcons actually win more than they lose.

jsarno · 10-03-2007, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Those stats are pretty darn good, but that guy has been a massive bust as the number three overall pick. He deserves no props yet IMO. Maybe if he actually keeps it up for a season and or the Falcons actually win more than they lose.

That's not gonna happen, and it won't be Harrington's fault. The Falcons have very poor talent overall.

Luxorreb · 10-03-2007, 06:43 AM

Falcons are doomed for years to come unless they get some resolve and help from Goodell. If they wait for Vick they will pay the price. Fortunately we can wait til December to hear anymore about him. Hopefully for his sake...

skinsfan_nn · 10-03-2007, 07:37 AM

You are judged by win & losses. The ONLY way your getting any "props" in this league is to WIN.

dmek25 · 10-03-2007, 07:38 AM

isnt it all about wins? he still has the lowest win percentage, of all time, with qbacks with at least 25 starts.( i think thats what the stat was)

MTK · 10-03-2007, 09:12 AM

I feel dirty for picking him up in one of my leagues, but he is playing well right now and until Brees gets it going I can't afford to keep getting zero or negative points at QB.

MonkFan4Life · 10-03-2007, 09:15 AM

So Brees is screwing you well too Matty ?

He is SO the weak link on my team.

SouperMeister · 10-03-2007, 09:29 AM

Harrington wasn't the only QB bust of that draft. Patrick Ramsey and David Carr were also selected in the 1st round that year. So many factors go into a QB successfully transitioning from college to pros, and much of it is falling into an offensive system that is a good fit. Perhaps Bobby Petrino is what Harrington needed all along.

dmek25 · 10-03-2007, 11:03 AM

oh god. i hope we aren't getting into that again

GTripp0012 · 10-03-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

You are judged by win & losses. The ONLY way your getting any "props" in this league is to WIN.

The teams that judge QBs by wins and losses will lose over and over again until they get a good quarterback. They will keep switching QBs to try to find a "winner" without realizing the problem lies elsewhere.

SouperMeister · 10-03-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

oh god. i hope we aren't getting into that again

Dmek - my point is that landing in a system that fits is often just as important as a QBs ability. Spurrier's lack of QB protection in his system was probably the worst thing that happened to Ramsey. Same can be said for Carr's porous O-line in Houston. I'm very intrigued to watch Harrington's development in Petrino's system after back-to-back excellent games. Perhaps they're an aberration, or perhaps we're about to witness the resurrection of a career.

Cowell · 10-03-2007, 11:35 AM

No defense for Carr now, I know Carolina doesen't have the best offensive line, but it was better than the one in Houston. Anyone see the Carolina game last weekend? They got smacked, and Carr wasn't moving the ball at all, his receivers dropped a few, but he wasn't that great himself.

dmek25 · 10-03-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Dmek - my point is that landing in a system that fits is often just as important as a QBs ability. Spurrier's lack of QB protection in his system was probably the worst thing that happened to Ramsey. Same can be said for Carr's porous O-line in Houston. I'm very intrigued to watch Harrington's development in Petrino's system after back-to-back excellent games. Perhaps they're an aberration, or perhaps we're about to witness the resurrection of a career.

i look at that alittle differently. Matt Shaub seems to be doing just fine behind basically the same line that almost got David Carr killed. in this league, its all about decision making. and how fast you can make them

SouperMeister · 10-03-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i look at that alittle differently. Matt Shaub seems to be doing just fine behind basically the same line that almost got David Carr killed. in this league, its all about decision making. and how fast you can make them

Carr also completed nearly 70% of his passes last year after Houston bolstered the O-line by signing Ephraim Salaam and drafting Eric Winston. Prior to that, Charley Casserly did very little to give Carr an NFL quality OL. That said, I would take Schaub over Carr, but I would take Campbell over either of them.

10-03-2007, 02:11 AM	#1
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	Joey Harrington I think there are a lot of people that dogged him that now need to give him some props. 983 yards, 4tds, 2ints, and a 71.2% comp %. 98.2 QB rating. He's 9th in yards, and 4th in comp%. He's 10th in 1st downs for qb's, He's one of the hottest QB's in football. 584yards and 4 td's in last 2 games. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

10-03-2007, 02:32 AM	#2
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Joey Harrington Those stats are pretty darn good, but that guy has been a massive bust as the number three overall pick. He deserves no props yet IMO. Maybe if he actually keeps it up for a season and or the Falcons actually win more than they lose.

10-03-2007, 06:43 AM	#4
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Re: Joey Harrington Falcons are doomed for years to come unless they get some resolve and help from Goodell. If they wait for Vick they will pay the price. Fortunately we can wait til December to hear anymore about him. Hopefully for his sake... __________________ ^21^

10-03-2007, 07:37 AM	#5
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 60 Posts: 4,495	Re: Joey Harrington You are judged by win & losses. The ONLY way your getting any "props" in this league is to WIN. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

10-03-2007, 07:38 AM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Joey Harrington isnt it all about wins? he still has the lowest win percentage, of all time, with qbacks with at least 25 starts.( i think thats what the stat was) __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-03-2007, 09:12 AM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Joey Harrington I feel dirty for picking him up in one of my leagues, but he is playing well right now and until Brees gets it going I can't afford to keep getting zero or negative points at QB. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-03-2007, 09:15 AM	#8
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 47 Posts: 1,851	Re: Joey Harrington So Brees is screwing you well too Matty ? He is SO the weak link on my team. __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

10-03-2007, 09:29 AM	#9
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Joey Harrington Harrington wasn't the only QB bust of that draft. Patrick Ramsey and David Carr were also selected in the 1st round that year. So many factors go into a QB successfully transitioning from college to pros, and much of it is falling into an offensive system that is a good fit. Perhaps Bobby Petrino is what Harrington needed all along.

10-03-2007, 11:03 AM	#10
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Joey Harrington oh god. i hope we aren't getting into that again __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-03-2007, 11:35 AM	#13
Cowell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina Posts: 803	Re: Joey Harrington No defense for Carr now, I know Carolina doesen't have the best offensive line, but it was better than the one in Houston. Anyone see the Carolina game last weekend? They got smacked, and Carr wasn't moving the ball at all, his receivers dropped a few, but he wasn't that great himself.

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