Interesting Packers Stat...

ingibbswetrust · 10-12-2007, 01:32 PM

Hi everyone, this is my first thread so hopefully i wont get beat up too badly here. However, i was doing a little research getting ready for this sunday's game and found an interesting little tidbit that I haven't heard much talk about. All week we've heard about how great the Packers passing attack is, but what no-one has looked at, is the current rankings of the pass defenses Farve and the Pack have gone up against. Without further ado, this is what I found and the point being; I really like how our secondary matches up with this pass-first offense. It seems as if everyone is scared to say that maybe farve and the packers offense is over-rated, but I'll come out and say just that. Very similiar to detroit's record coming into last week's game.

the current pass-defense rankings of the team's the Pack have faced (by YPG)..

week 1: Philly: Farve 206 yds (0 TD, 1 INT), philly ranks 21st
week 2: NYG: Farve 286 yds (3 TD, 1 INT), nyg ranks 20th
week 3: SD: Farve 369 yds (3 TD, 0 INT). SD ranks 27th
week 4: Minn: Farve 344 yds (2 TD, 0 INT), Minn ranks 30th
week 5: Chicago: Farve 322 yds (1 TD, 2 INT), Chicago ranks 26th

Hail.

The Zimmermans · 10-12-2007, 01:35 PM

impressive first blog, yeah....they could be overraded just like the lions....however, their defense does make up for much of the difference

The Zimmermans · 10-12-2007, 01:35 PM

overrated

Chief X_Phackter · 10-12-2007, 01:49 PM

Yeah, but you could say that GB had a little bit to do with why those pass defense ratings are what they are. Goes both ways.

Monksdown · 10-12-2007, 01:52 PM

Yeah, they had an effect on 20% of those teams ratings. That doesnt make the point invalid.

Hog1 · 10-12-2007, 01:58 PM

Welcome, InGibbs....and good first!
Your correct, it is an interesting point. I to, like the way we match up. If we do our job, we may see a little of the Brett we love, with four or five int's
HTTR

BigSKINBauer · 10-12-2007, 02:03 PM

fantastic stat and welcome. i wonder if you removed the games that the pack played against those teams, if it would significantly raise their ranking. I don't have a clue but with only 5 games one game can put down an average quite a bit. Regardless, we will see how they play against the #3 D

70Chip · 10-12-2007, 02:05 PM

Good post. I think the test this week will be to see if Campbell and the offense can control the ball against a Packers defense that is the best group we've faced. In spite of these numbers, I still think we need to lean heavily on the ground game. This sure would be a nice week for Portis to get over the 100 yard mark. It's a lot easier to win road games if you don't have to throw much.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-12-2007, 02:19 PM

Anyone feel like showing us what the Lions first opponents pass defenses looked like?

hooskins · 10-12-2007, 02:28 PM

Excellent first post. Most regulars don't put that much effort into threads. Well done and welcome.

I echo the sentiments of the board. I think it is a telling stat, but a bit inflated because of what the Pack could have done to their D rankings.

It is the whole issue of the direction of causality. Is X causing Y or vice versa.

Monksdown · 10-12-2007, 02:49 PM

na, ive been here for a while. And i expend energy like that sparingly.

Chief X_Phackter · 10-12-2007, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monksdown

Yeah, they had an effect on 20% of those teams ratings. That doesnt make the point invalid.

I don't believe I said the point was invalid. I'm simply saying that Green Bay helped to inflate those stats.

Monkeydad · 10-12-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Anyone feel like showing us what the Lions first opponents pass defenses looked like?

Lions' opponents:

Wk. 1 - Raiders, 22nd pass, 26th overall = 284 passing yards (Kitna)
Wk. 2 - Vikings, 30th pass, 18th overall = 359 passing yards
Wk. 3 - Eagles, 21st pass, 9th overall = 393 passing yards
Wk. 4 - Bears, 26th pass, 23rd overall = 215 passing yards
Wk. 5 - SKINS, 8th pass, 3rd overall = 76 passing yards

GridIron26 · 10-12-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster

Lions' opponents:

Wk. 1 - Raiders, 22nd pass, 26th overall = 284 passing yards (Kitna)
Wk. 2 - Vikings, 30th pass, 18th overall = 359 passing yards
Wk. 3 - Eagles, 21st pass, 9th overall = 393 passing yards
Wk. 4 - Bears, 26th pass, 23rd overall = 215 passing yards
Wk. 5 - SKINS, 8th pass, 3rd overall = 76 passing yards

Hmm that sounds pretty good...

Monksdown · 10-12-2007, 03:04 PM

A little more detail.

Oakland: Jon Kitna(289 yds;3TD/2Int) 17th currently against pass
Minnesota: Jon Kitna(245 yds;1TD/1int) 31st currently
Philly: Jon Kitna(446;2td/1int) 12th currently
Chicago: Jon Kitna (247yds;2td/1int) 29th currently
Washington: Jon Kitna(106yds:0td/2int) 15th against the pass currently.

10-12-2007, 01:32 PM	#1
ingibbswetrust Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 40	Interesting Packers Stat... Hi everyone, this is my first thread so hopefully i wont get beat up too badly here. However, i was doing a little research getting ready for this sunday's game and found an interesting little tidbit that I haven't heard much talk about. All week we've heard about how great the Packers passing attack is, but what no-one has looked at, is the current rankings of the pass defenses Farve and the Pack have gone up against. Without further ado, this is what I found and the point being; I really like how our secondary matches up with this pass-first offense. It seems as if everyone is scared to say that maybe farve and the packers offense is over-rated, but I'll come out and say just that. Very similiar to detroit's record coming into last week's game. the current pass-defense rankings of the team's the Pack have faced (by YPG).. week 1: Philly: Farve 206 yds (0 TD, 1 INT), philly ranks 21st week 2: NYG: Farve 286 yds (3 TD, 1 INT), nyg ranks 20th week 3: SD: Farve 369 yds (3 TD, 0 INT). SD ranks 27th week 4: Minn: Farve 344 yds (2 TD, 0 INT), Minn ranks 30th week 5: Chicago: Farve 322 yds (1 TD, 2 INT), Chicago ranks 26th Hail.

10-12-2007, 01:35 PM	#2
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... impressive first blog, yeah....they could be overraded just like the lions....however, their defense does make up for much of the difference __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-12-2007, 01:49 PM	#4
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,621	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... Yeah, but you could say that GB had a little bit to do with why those pass defense ratings are what they are. Goes both ways.

10-12-2007, 01:52 PM	#5
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 1,515	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... Yeah, they had an effect on 20% of those teams ratings. That doesnt make the point invalid.

10-12-2007, 01:58 PM	#6
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... Welcome, InGibbs....and good first! Your correct, it is an interesting point. I to, like the way we match up. If we do our job, we may see a little of the Brett we love, with four or five int's HTTR __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-12-2007, 01:35 PM	#3
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... overrated __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-12-2007, 02:03 PM	#7
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... fantastic stat and welcome. i wonder if you removed the games that the pack played against those teams, if it would significantly raise their ranking. I don't have a clue but with only 5 games one game can put down an average quite a bit. Regardless, we will see how they play against the #3 D

10-12-2007, 02:05 PM	#8
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... Good post. I think the test this week will be to see if Campbell and the offense can control the ball against a Packers defense that is the best group we've faced. In spite of these numbers, I still think we need to lean heavily on the ground game. This sure would be a nice week for Portis to get over the 100 yard mark. It's a lot easier to win road games if you don't have to throw much. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

10-12-2007, 02:19 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... Anyone feel like showing us what the Lions first opponents pass defenses looked like? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-12-2007, 02:28 PM	#10
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... Excellent first post. Most regulars don't put that much effort into threads. Well done and welcome. I echo the sentiments of the board. I think it is a telling stat, but a bit inflated because of what the Pack could have done to their D rankings. It is the whole issue of the direction of causality. Is X causing Y or vice versa. __________________ Vacancy

10-12-2007, 02:49 PM	#11
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 1,515	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... na, ive been here for a while. And i expend energy like that sparingly.

10-12-2007, 03:04 PM	#15
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 1,515	Re: Interesting Packers Stat... A little more detail. Oakland: Jon Kitna(289 yds;3TD/2Int) 17th currently against pass Minnesota: Jon Kitna(245 yds;1TD/1int) 31st currently Philly: Jon Kitna(446;2td/1int) 12th currently Chicago: Jon Kitna (247yds;2td/1int) 29th currently Washington: Jon Kitna(106yds:0td/2int) 15th against the pass currently.

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