Are we a playoff team?

hooskins · 10-21-2007, 05:17 PM

I thought we were until last week, and now I have serious questions. I think we have great players, but all teams have injuries and that is no excuse for the crap we saw today.

In our losses our team has either had a terrible mentality/gameplan or poor excution, or both. I think we got very lucky today, and if this was any team better than the Cards(which there are alot) we would have been squashed.

If we need 3 turnovers, a pick-6, blocked PAT, and a lucky FG miss to win against a lowly team such as the Cardinals I would think we have serious issues. I am happy for the win, but realistically it just shows how bad we are.

skinsfan69 · 10-21-2007, 05:18 PM

No. We are simply not a playoff team.

DynamiteRave · 10-21-2007, 05:18 PM

I don't think so.

I think we're a wildcard at best and even the Giants may be more worthy of that than us.

I dunno. I'm seeing something like 8-8 right now. 10-6 at best.

BleedBurgundy · 10-21-2007, 05:20 PM

This point not at.

hooskins · 10-21-2007, 05:21 PM

Could we poll this mods? It might be overwhelmingly "No", but we could also have the poll option of "Unsure".

dmek25 · 10-21-2007, 05:27 PM

while i think the skins were very bad today, i think alot of people underestimate how much the cardinals have improved. remember, this is the same team that beat the steelers. but as of right now, no we are not a playoff caliber team

12thMan · 10-21-2007, 05:29 PM

I saw the tail end of this game, and there's no way this game should have come down to Rackers missing a field...just barely at that.

skinsguy · 10-21-2007, 05:30 PM

Look at it from another perspective. If our offensive line was completely healthy, then we would be more successful running the ball and running the ball would also open our passing up. Before all the injuries, our offensive line was considered one of the top offensive lines in the league.

Now that we only have Chris Samuels playing with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers on our line, this heavily cripples our offensive output. If the run blocking isn't there, you're not going to be very successful running the football. If you can't run the ball, then you become one dimensional, and forcing the game into the hands of a young quarterback who is starting in his first full year. Our receivers have been dropping passes left and right, and apparently couldn't get open down field against the Cardinals.

I mean, really, one can say that pointing to injuries is no excuse, but this isn't Madden Football. If you could simply plug in players and have the same consistency as you would with your starters, then those guys wouldn't be on the bench in the first place. Your offensive line is your offense. It all begins in the trenches. I don't care what type of offense you have or the players who have at those high skilled positions, without a healthy, good offensive line, you won't be successful.

Now, I agree that we have had poor execution. As far as poor game plans, what are you honestly going to do when your receivers have been dropping passes, have been injured themselves, and your offense hasn't been running effectively? That doesn't give you a lot of options. Simply saying, "I'd open the offense up more." Well, just how are you going to do that when you know the facts of our injuries? I also agree that I do believe we have some good players. But, don't think of our offense only in terms of the quarterback, running back, and receiver position. There is much more to our offense than just those skilled positions.

We get an healthy offensive line back, we see a much better offense on the field. That is a fact.

skinsguy · 10-21-2007, 05:31 PM

But to follow up. Do I think we're a playoff team? Not unless we can get healthy again.

BleedBurgundy · 10-21-2007, 05:31 PM

The Cardinals are not a bunch of scrubs. They're a middle of the road team. I think we are only slightly above "middle of the road" and it showed today. I'd love to have the right side of our line back though... I think this may end up being a "what could've been" season for us.

wilsowilso · 10-21-2007, 05:32 PM

The offense regressed so badly today I don't know what to think?

DynamiteRave · 10-21-2007, 05:33 PM

Brian Mitchell: "Al Saunders needs to change the way he calls his offense or else he's gonna cause this team some trouble."

Ehhh?

skinsfan69 · 10-21-2007, 05:40 PM

The Cards are a good team. No question about that. If Warner was healthy we might have lost today. He didn't look like himself. With that being said I don't know what our game plan was on offense. It was just run here run there and throw some short passes adn screens and punt. The offense today looked like last year's offense.

jsarno · 10-21-2007, 05:43 PM

Short answer, yes!

There are a lot of obsticles, but we are better than we played today.

12thMan · 10-21-2007, 05:43 PM

Okay, let's not confuse playoff caliber talent with being a playoff team. While we have talent, and have had some splashes of success, I'm not sure what to think of this team to be honest. A new team shows up from week to the next.

That being said, don't be shocked if the Skins are the first team to knock New England from the ranks of the undefeated.

10-21-2007, 05:17 PM	#1
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Are we a playoff team? I thought we were until last week, and now I have serious questions. I think we have great players, but all teams have injuries and that is no excuse for the crap we saw today. In our losses our team has either had a terrible mentality/gameplan or poor excution, or both. I think we got very lucky today, and if this was any team better than the Cards(which there are alot) we would have been squashed. If we need 3 turnovers, a pick-6, blocked PAT, and a lucky FG miss to win against a lowly team such as the Cardinals I would think we have serious issues. I am happy for the win, but realistically it just shows how bad we are. __________________ Vacancy

10-21-2007, 05:18 PM	#2
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,319	Re: Are a we playoff team? No. We are simply not a playoff team.

10-21-2007, 05:18 PM	#3
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: Are a we playoff team? I don't think so. I think we're a wildcard at best and even the Giants may be more worthy of that than us. I dunno. I'm seeing something like 8-8 right now. 10-6 at best. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

10-21-2007, 05:20 PM	#4
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Are a we playoff team? This point not at. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

10-21-2007, 05:21 PM	#5
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Are a we playoff team? Could we poll this mods? It might be overwhelmingly "No", but we could also have the poll option of "Unsure". __________________ Vacancy

10-21-2007, 05:27 PM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Are a we playoff team? while i think the skins were very bad today, i think alot of people underestimate how much the cardinals have improved. remember, this is the same team that beat the steelers. but as of right now, no we are not a playoff caliber team __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-21-2007, 05:29 PM	#7
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Are a we playoff team? I saw the tail end of this game, and there's no way this game should have come down to Rackers missing a field...just barely at that.

10-21-2007, 05:30 PM	#8
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Are a we playoff team? Look at it from another perspective. If our offensive line was completely healthy, then we would be more successful running the ball and running the ball would also open our passing up. Before all the injuries, our offensive line was considered one of the top offensive lines in the league. Now that we only have Chris Samuels playing with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers on our line, this heavily cripples our offensive output. If the run blocking isn't there, you're not going to be very successful running the football. If you can't run the ball, then you become one dimensional, and forcing the game into the hands of a young quarterback who is starting in his first full year. Our receivers have been dropping passes left and right, and apparently couldn't get open down field against the Cardinals. I mean, really, one can say that pointing to injuries is no excuse, but this isn't Madden Football. If you could simply plug in players and have the same consistency as you would with your starters, then those guys wouldn't be on the bench in the first place. Your offensive line is your offense. It all begins in the trenches. I don't care what type of offense you have or the players who have at those high skilled positions, without a healthy, good offensive line, you won't be successful. Now, I agree that we have had poor execution. As far as poor game plans, what are you honestly going to do when your receivers have been dropping passes, have been injured themselves, and your offense hasn't been running effectively? That doesn't give you a lot of options. Simply saying, "I'd open the offense up more." Well, just how are you going to do that when you know the facts of our injuries? I also agree that I do believe we have some good players. But, don't think of our offense only in terms of the quarterback, running back, and receiver position. There is much more to our offense than just those skilled positions. We get an healthy offensive line back, we see a much better offense on the field. That is a fact. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-21-2007, 05:31 PM	#9
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Are a we playoff team? But to follow up. Do I think we're a playoff team? Not unless we can get healthy again. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-21-2007, 05:31 PM	#10
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Are a we playoff team? The Cardinals are not a bunch of scrubs. They're a middle of the road team. I think we are only slightly above "middle of the road" and it showed today. I'd love to have the right side of our line back though... I think this may end up being a "what could've been" season for us. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

10-21-2007, 05:32 PM	#11
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Are a we playoff team? The offense regressed so badly today I don't know what to think?

10-21-2007, 05:33 PM	#12
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: Are a we playoff team? Brian Mitchell: "Al Saunders needs to change the way he calls his offense or else he's gonna cause this team some trouble." Ehhh? __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

10-21-2007, 05:40 PM	#13
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,319	Re: Are a we playoff team? The Cards are a good team. No question about that. If Warner was healthy we might have lost today. He didn't look like himself. With that being said I don't know what our game plan was on offense. It was just run here run there and throw some short passes adn screens and punt. The offense today looked like last year's offense.

10-21-2007, 05:43 PM	#14
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	Re: Are a we playoff team? Short answer, yes! There are a lot of obsticles, but we are better than we played today. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

10-21-2007, 05:43 PM	#15
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Are a we playoff team? Okay, let's not confuse playoff caliber talent with being a playoff team. While we have talent, and have had some splashes of success, I'm not sure what to think of this team to be honest. A new team shows up from week to the next. That being said, don't be shocked if the Skins are the first team to knock New England from the ranks of the undefeated.

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