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Old 11-14-2007, 11:52 AM   #1
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Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

ESPN - Sources: NFL reinstates Ricky Williams from ban - NFL
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:57 AM   #2
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

Sign him!




so kidding.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:00 PM   #3
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

I don't have a problem with giving him another shot. He did his time and didn't appear in any 3rd rate wrestling circuits while he was away.

Besides, it's just weed. It's not like he was beating his wife or killing people while driving drunk.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:08 PM   #4
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

Not us though, right? Unless he plays right tackle... or free safety.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:09 PM   #5
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

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I don't have a problem with giving him another shot. He did his time and didn't appear in any 3rd rate wrestling circuits while he was away.

Besides, it's just weed. It's not like he was beating his wife or killing people while driving drunk.
Besides, it's just illegal.




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Old 11-14-2007, 12:10 PM   #6
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

He's getting another chance because Ronnie Brown went down, and the Dolphins season is in the shithouse. They need a backup for Chatman...
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:17 PM   #7
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Besides, it's just illegal.




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Of course, but there are varying degrees of crimes and someone who smokes weed isn't exactly the same kind of threat to society as a mass murderer, even though both acts fall in the illegal category.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:34 PM   #8
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

Some people smoke weed to relieve stress, I know it firsthand and I have seen lot of people do that too.. So I personally don't blame RW, BUT I do question his commitment to football because if it was me, I would quit smoking weed if I get in NFL.. So
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:37 PM   #9
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

Yea if I was making the millions that these players are making I would put the weed on pause until I retired been there done that he most have been sheltered as a kid.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:41 PM   #10
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Of course, but there are varying degrees of crimes and someone who smokes weed isn't exactly the same kind of threat to society as a mass murderer, even though both acts fall in the illegal category.
I just got done talking to someone here in TN. This guy was saying that if the NFL can let Ricky back in they have to let Pacman come back. I was stunned. How can you compare nearly a dozen run ins with the law including one involvement in an attempted murder to smoking weed.
To quote Dave Attell, "Yeah it is illegal, but its not that illegal."
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:54 PM   #11
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I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of NFL players that smoke weed during the season to wind down and to relieve pain. A lot. Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying.
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

Obviously I don't know Ricky, maybe he is a complete douche, but every time I have ever seen an interview with him I always end up feeling bad for the guy. Clearly his own choices have caused him and his teammates a great deal of trouble, but it also is equally clear that the guy has some real (and documented) mental health issues. I cannot understand putting in jeopardy your NFL career for a few puffs, but the guy at least seems like a decent human being, which is more than you can say for some of these characters. Besides, being reinstated by the NFL doesn't mean he'll even play this season. From the reports I read it seems that the Dolphins want no part of him so Brown's injury is not the reason he was reinstated. Like Matty said, the guy did his time, he's lost a tremendous amount of money, he's career is probably over for all intents and purposes, what more do you want from him?
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:09 PM   #13
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Obviously I don't know Ricky, maybe he is a complete douche, but every time I have ever seen an interview with him I always end up feeling bad for the guy. Clearly his own choices have caused him and his teammates a great deal of trouble, but it also is equally clear that the guy has some real (and documented) mental health issues. I cannot understand putting in jeopardy your NFL career for a few puffs, but the guy at least seems like a decent human being, which is more than you can say for some of these characters. Besides, being reinstated by the NFL doesn't mean he'll even play this season. From the reports I read it seems that the Dolphins want no part of him so Brown's injury is not the reason he was reinstated. Like Matty said, the guy did his time, he's lost a tremendous amount of money, he's career is probably over for all intents and purposes, what more do you want from him?
He has documented issues with social anxiety, and I'd be willing to bet that's the main reason he smokes weed.
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He has documented issues with social anxiety, and I'd be willing to bet that's the main reason he smokes weed.
Isn't that a warning flag? Needing to resort to illegal substances to cope with a mental issue? Isn't that a good sign that the weed use will continue? And remember, weed use gets you suspended in the NFL. And you can't help your team if you're suspended in the NFL.

I know you said you don't see an issue with giving the guy a second chance, but hopefully you didn't mean for the Redskins. Maybe there's no issue morally with giving him a second chance, but any team that does is idiotic in my opinion.

Guys with issues like that become locker room problems, evidenced by his bailing on the Dolphins and getting repeatedly suspended. Not very good for your salary cap to carry a guy who has a good chance of getting suspended.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:19 PM   #15
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Personally, I have no problem whatsoever if all he does is smoke weed. My issue is that he can't stop himself from smoking it, which will get him suspended. If weed use were not a punishable offense in the NFL, I'd say sign him today.
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