Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too?

T.O.Killa · 01-23-2008, 10:29 PM

Am I the only one that thinks, that soon after, the coaches are hired, that players will start dropping like flies? I think the Daniels, Springs, Griffins Etc, are in trouble.

EternalEnigma21 · 01-23-2008, 10:30 PM

I just mentioned this:

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I'm much more worried about other players. I think we're going to get overhauled if we switch to a west coast offense (which I hate) and a 3-4 rex ryan defense. I heard that if he went to other teams that weren't built for it, (rex that is) he wouldn't implement it, but who knows...

I actually like the idea of the 3-4, but not the west coast....

Kevikazi · 01-23-2008, 10:34 PM

I thought Rex Ryan was running 4-6 defense.

Big C · 01-23-2008, 10:45 PM

well if we get ryan as our DC, we'd probably change to a 3-4 like baltimore has, and griffen would be a good 3-4 DE i think so id expect him to stay if that was the case. daniels could also be a decent 3-4 DE because of his size. 3-4 DEs dont need to rush the passer as well it seems, just absorb blockers. the player that could be hurt by a possible switch to a 3-4 would be andre carter who didnt cut it as a LB in SF 3-4 defense, and is too small for a DE in the 3-4.

MTRedskinsFan · 01-23-2008, 11:59 PM

Actually, I would anticipate that players would want to leave if all the coaching rumors are true. To my knowledge, not a single player has publicly or privately expressed concerns about GW as their HC and the other coaches staying as well. In fact, the majority seem to have expressed their support. And I'm not surprised by their support of GW and current staff; I remember Portis rumbling off the field and going directly to GW on different occasions this year as though Greg was already the HC. What it really says is that Williams has the respect of the players, including guys on the offensive side of the ball. My intuition is that if "Danny the Douche" TM is lying through his teeth about continuity and has a plan to blow up the team again a lot of our key guys will want out anyway. I won't blame them for that, as I won't blame every last coach on the staff for exiting as well. Like SouperMeister said in a different thread, "Danny the Douche" TM is quickly returning Redskin football to laughingstock status again around the league.

MTK · 01-24-2008, 12:00 AM

We'll have some house cleaning to do regardless.

With the cap we simply can't have a fire sale.

mcarey032 · 01-24-2008, 12:27 AM

Yeah there is going to be a big time shake up around here. I thought we had some nice pieces in place. Now I am not sure how this is going to go for the players. I don't think that the receivers are immune in this one. I think that Moss could be a casualty. I really like moss, but his numbers are down and he makes a lot. They would probably want to upgrade and get a different player with more size. I think that it would be absolutely stupid, but then again, hiring Fassel seems like the genius move of the week.

SmootSmack · 01-24-2008, 12:49 AM

I wonder how many of the people who complain about losing some players are the same who complain about Cerrato having done nothing to get any players here in the first place

sportscurmudgeon · 01-24-2008, 12:54 AM

There are a dozen - maybe fifteen - players on the current roster who should cause us great concern if they were to leave the team for any reason. Other than that, their only real value is that they are known quantities instead of unknown quantities who may be better but who may be truly awful.

So I won't shed crocodile tears if even two dozen of the players on the current roster are moved out - or choose to move themselves out.

The REALLY importnat question is whether or not the new FO structure and the new coach recognize who really has to stay and who can disappear...

dgack · 01-24-2008, 03:32 AM

How fired up one gets on this topic directly relates to how good you think the chances are we're already in a rebuilding mode (again).

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 01-24-2008, 08:26 AM

I still can't find anywhere that says this guy is necessarily a 3-4 guy...maybe he's just done it situationally??

irish · 01-24-2008, 09:29 AM

I dont expect any more changes that the Skins would normally have done if Gibbs stayed. I just dont buy into the whole "blow the team up" theory. If guys can play they will stay, if not they will be replaced (as they would be no matter who was coach) with someone that can.

redwagonskins · 01-24-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

I still can't find anywhere that says this guy is necessarily a 3-4 guy...maybe he's just done it situationally??

See Baltimore Ravens

2 DTs, 1 NT, 4 LBS, 4 DBS = 3-4 Defense

01-23-2008, 10:29 PM	#1
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? Am I the only one that thinks, that soon after, the coaches are hired, that players will start dropping like flies? I think the Daniels, Springs, Griffins Etc, are in trouble.

01-23-2008, 10:34 PM	#3
Kevikazi Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 55 Posts: 187	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? I thought Rex Ryan was running 4-6 defense.

01-23-2008, 10:45 PM	#4
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? well if we get ryan as our DC, we'd probably change to a 3-4 like baltimore has, and griffen would be a good 3-4 DE i think so id expect him to stay if that was the case. daniels could also be a decent 3-4 DE because of his size. 3-4 DEs dont need to rush the passer as well it seems, just absorb blockers. the player that could be hurt by a possible switch to a 3-4 would be andre carter who didnt cut it as a LB in SF 3-4 defense, and is too small for a DE in the 3-4. __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

01-23-2008, 11:59 PM	#5
MTRedskinsFan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 359	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? Actually, I would anticipate that players would want to leave if all the coaching rumors are true. To my knowledge, not a single player has publicly or privately expressed concerns about GW as their HC and the other coaches staying as well. In fact, the majority seem to have expressed their support. And I'm not surprised by their support of GW and current staff; I remember Portis rumbling off the field and going directly to GW on different occasions this year as though Greg was already the HC. What it really says is that Williams has the respect of the players, including guys on the offensive side of the ball. My intuition is that if "Danny the Douche" TM is lying through his teeth about continuity and has a plan to blow up the team again a lot of our key guys will want out anyway. I won't blame them for that, as I won't blame every last coach on the staff for exiting as well. Like SouperMeister said in a different thread, "Danny the Douche" TM is quickly returning Redskin football to laughingstock status again around the league.

01-24-2008, 12:00 AM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? We'll have some house cleaning to do regardless. With the cap we simply can't have a fire sale. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-24-2008, 12:27 AM	#7
mcarey032 Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 215	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? Yeah there is going to be a big time shake up around here. I thought we had some nice pieces in place. Now I am not sure how this is going to go for the players. I don't think that the receivers are immune in this one. I think that Moss could be a casualty. I really like moss, but his numbers are down and he makes a lot. They would probably want to upgrade and get a different player with more size. I think that it would be absolutely stupid, but then again, hiring Fassel seems like the genius move of the week.

01-24-2008, 12:49 AM	#8
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? I wonder how many of the people who complain about losing some players are the same who complain about Cerrato having done nothing to get any players here in the first place __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-24-2008, 12:54 AM	#9
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? There are a dozen - maybe fifteen - players on the current roster who should cause us great concern if they were to leave the team for any reason. Other than that, their only real value is that they are known quantities instead of unknown quantities who may be better but who may be truly awful. So I won't shed crocodile tears if even two dozen of the players on the current roster are moved out - or choose to move themselves out. The REALLY importnat question is whether or not the new FO structure and the new coach recognize who really has to stay and who can disappear... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-24-2008, 03:32 AM	#10
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? How fired up one gets on this topic directly relates to how good you think the chances are we're already in a rebuilding mode (again). __________________ "To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson

01-24-2008, 08:26 AM	#11
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 39 Posts: 896	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? I still can't find anywhere that says this guy is necessarily a 3-4 guy...maybe he's just done it situationally??

01-24-2008, 09:29 AM	#12
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Will the Axe Start Falling on the Players, Too? I dont expect any more changes that the Skins would normally have done if Gibbs stayed. I just dont buy into the whole "blow the team up" theory. If guys can play they will stay, if not they will be replaced (as they would be no matter who was coach) with someone that can.

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