New Nas Album

[saden1]

Any Nas fans in here? If you like Nas you'll love his new album. By my count it has 8 first class tracks and 5 decent tracks.

[djnemo65]

I think Illmatic is the greatest Hiphop album in history. This country is filled with people who have lost that debate to me

He hit a skid in the middle of his career with Nastradamus and such, but since Stillmatic it's been nothing but quality. I didn't know the new one was out yet but I am going to run home now and grab it.

Saden, what did he end up calling it?

[saden1]

They don't really make'em like Nas anymore. Easily top 3 lyricists of all time. The album is self titled. You can buy the album in mp3 format from Amazon for $8.99

Edit: You're in japan, I guess you can't grab it from Amazon

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

I think Illmatic is the greatest Hiphop album in history. This country is filled with people who have lost that debate to me

He hit a skid in the middle of his career with Nastradamus and such, but since Stillmatic it's been nothing but quality. I didn't know the new one was out yet but I am going to run home now and grab it.

Saden, what did he end up calling it?

Word. Illmatic is dope. Not sure if I could name just one greatest album, but it is definitely one of them.

Just curious, what do Japanese people think is the greatest hip-hop album of all time?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Word. Illmatic is dope. Not sure if I could name just one greatest album, but it is definitely one of them.

Just curious, what do Japanese people think is the greatest hip-hop album of all time?

Japanese people have curious taste in Hiphop since it's impossible for them to understand the words (hell, my dad can't understand them and he's American born and bread); so they evaluate it mostly on beat, delivery, and overall attitude. I'm not sure if there is a consensus pick, but they tend to favor Tupac over Biggie (to my consternation) and struggle to get into a lot of older New York style stuff.

Kanye is big, but you are just as likely to hear someone talking about how dope Kris Brown or the Blackhead Peas are.

[djnemo65]

GDS, what do you think the g.o.a.t. is?

[itvnetop]

Illmatic is def. in my top 5. It Was Written was pretty good, but you're right with Nastradamus... that album made me fall off the Nasir bandwagon.

My top 5 emcees:

1- Rakim
2- KRS
3- Nas (from Illmatic era)
4- Biggie
5- Redman

Honorable mentions: Chuck D, MF Doom (Zev Lov X), Jeru, Black Thought, Pac and Big L (RIP), Chali 2na, Lyte, Talib, Pos, OneBeLo, Del, Gift of Gab, Q-Tip, Busta (LNS era), Gza and Cube.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Illmatic is def. in my top 5. It Was Written was pretty good, but you're right with Nastradamus... that album made me fall off the Nasir bandwagon.

My top 5 emcees:

1- Rakim
2- KRS
3- Nas (from Illmatic era)
4- Biggie
5- Redman

Honorable mentions: Chuck D, MF Doom (Zev Lov X), Jeru, Black Thought, Pac and Big L (RIP), Chali 2na, Lyte, Talib, Pos, OneBeLo, Del, Gift of Gab, Q-Tip, Busta (LNS era), Gza and Cube.

Good list but Redman in the top 5? I guess my issue with him, which is sort of the same problem I have with Pac, is that he never made that classic 5 mic album, he was just really good on a lot of stuff for a long time. I guess mine would read: 1 - Biggie 2 - Rakim 3 - Jigga 4 - KRS 5- 90's Dre from Outkast.

edit: I guess since we're are designating eras I would put illmatic era Nas in a tie for 2 with Rakim. Rakim gets the go ahead for fathering that style though.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Good list but Redman in the top 5? I guess my issue with him, which is sort of the same problem I have with Pac, is that he never made that classic 5 mic album, he was just really good on a lot of stuff for a long time. I guess mine would read: 1 - Biggie 2 - Rakim 3 - Jigga 4 - KRS 5- 90's Dre from Outkast.

edit: I guess since we're are designating eras I would put illmatic era Nas in a tie for 2 with Rakim. Rakim gets the go ahead for fathering that style though.

You know you're right about Redman and his lack of a universally accepted 5 mic album (although I personally think "Darkside" is bonkers)... the reason he's in my top 5 is that he can lyrically flip anything at any time. His wordplay is incredible and he can do it all while keeping a light-hearted tone to everything.

I totally agree with you re: Outkast-era Dre vs. new school. I'm all for an artist's ability to change, but he just lost me when he started getting all hipster. ATLiens for life!

[itvnetop]

What are your top 5 groups? Top 5 producers?

[djnemo65]

Ok, if we are going to do groups we have to evaluate them on the strength of the group as a unit, thus a group like the Fugees, while important and great in their time, are kept off the list by the red-headed stepchild Pras. Also, single MC DJ/Producer groups like Eric B. and Rakim or Gangstarr are disqualified as well because of their eligibility in the producer/ MC categories.

Here it goes: 1-Wu Tang 2-Public Enemy 3-Outkast (remember, Dre was technically bumped off of my last list) 4- EPMD 5- N.W.A.

Producers goes 1-DJ Premier 2-Timbaland 3- Pete Rock 4- Large Professor 5- Hi-Tek.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Here it goes: 1-Wu Tang 2-Public Enemy 3-Outkast (remember, Dre was technically bumped off of my last list) 4- EPMD 5- N.W.A.

Producers goes 1-DJ Premier 2-Timbaland 3- Pete Rock 4- Large Professor 5- Hi-Tek.

Good lists.

My groups:

1- Tribe
2- PE
3- Wu
4- Smif n' Wessun (just based off "Dah Shinin'"... this album alone puts them in my top 5)
5- tie b/t De La and Roots

Producers:

1- Premier
2- Madlib
3- Dre
4- Prince Paul
5- tie b/t RZA and Beatminerz

[Gmanc711]

As far as group goes...I'll be honest and say I'm not a real huge rap guy, but I absolutley LOVE Bone Thugs N' Harmony. Anyone else here into them? I can't wait for their (alleged) reunion album.

[SmootSmack]

No love for Sugar Hill Gang, Run DMC, Big Daddy Kane, Kool Moe Dee?

damn I feel old

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No love for Sugar Hill Gang, Run DMC, Big Daddy Kane, Kool Moe Dee?

damn I feel old

With the exception of Sugar Hill you could make an argument for all those guys. Why don't you treat us to your lists SS, inject a little old-school perspective into this discussion.