66 Months, Out in 5!

saden1 · 08-07-2008, 08:41 PM

The long awaited first terrorist military trial and sentencing is in ladies and gentleman and the verdict is, well, not satisfying. Question is what happens to him in 5 months?

RedskinRat · 08-08-2008, 05:13 AM

I was fairly annoyed when I saw this yesterday but assumed I'd be in the minority regarding our handling of enemy combatants.

But stuff like:

“After that, I don’t know what happens,” said Judge Allred, who had developed a warm relationship with Mr. Hamdan during months of pretrial hearings.

And:

Mr. Hamdan, who at times has shown a mischievous sense of humor, raised his arms and said a good-natured, “Bye, bye everybody.”

And:

“Inshallah,” Judge Allred responded.

And:

Mr. Hamdan’s answer to his safety if returned to Yemen, Professor Schmitz said, was: “Look, you guys get me out of Gitmo. I’ll take care of Yemen.”

Speechless..........Fortunately I can still type.

This is clearly a war our Government doesn't intend to 'win', as such.

If I were on trial I am fairly certain I wouldn't be 'showing a mischievous sense of humor'. What about the impartiality of the Judge? He developed a warm relationship with a defendant?!?!??! Does he even understand what 'inshallah' means? No, it's not as simple as 'god willing', you utter moron!

We are so screwed if this is the best we can do.

SmootSmack · 08-08-2008, 07:28 AM

Who knew former Redskins QB Gibram Hamdan moonlighted as a driver for Bin Laden...oh, wait

dmek25 · 08-08-2008, 07:46 AM

just another feather in this administration's cap. what a bunch of buffoons

MTK · 08-08-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

just another feather in this administration's cap. what a bunch of buffoons

Should be interesting to see the spin on this one.

RedskinRat · 08-08-2008, 10:26 AM

It was a solid opportunity for the current Administration to set the tone, I really don't think that was achieved.

Having said that, what does everyone think should have been done? I'd be interested to know. I also promise I won't be replying to the thread and 'discussing' it.

firstdown · 08-08-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

just another feather in this administration's cap. what a bunch of buffoons

The real buffon was the guy who did not take Bin Laden when he was handed to the US back years ago. I would have liked to seen a much longer sentence but as people demanded that these guys get their day in court are now complaining about their sentense. You cannot have it both ways.

MTK · 08-08-2008, 10:40 AM

lol here we go. It's all Clinton's fault.

RedskinRat · 08-08-2008, 10:45 AM

Osama bin Laden: missed opportunities - Nightly News with Brian Williams - MSNBC.com

Too....hard.....to.....resist.....damn it!

saden1 · 08-08-2008, 10:46 AM

RedskinRat, I'm not sure why the judge's "Inshallah" response bothers you?

As for what should have been done, I would have taken the civilian court route. What really bothers me is that we've spend 7 years and millions of dollars to convict a lowly driver in a kangaroo court...and all he got was 66 months....so retarded.

saden1 · 08-08-2008, 10:49 AM

Stop with the blame game and see the principles of the matter...and the question is what to do with him after he's out.

MTK · 08-08-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Stop with the blame game and see the principles of the matter...and the question is what to do with him after he's out.

lol good luck with that. The blame game is always a convenient excuse to skirt around the actual issues.

firstdown · 08-08-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

RedskinRat, I'm not sure why the judge's "Inshallah" response bothers you?

As for what should have been done, I would have taken the civilian court route. What really bothers me is that we've spend 7 years and millions of dollars to convict a lowly driver in a kangaroo court...and all he got was 66 months....so retarded.

There are reasons why civilian courts are not used and I don't have the time to look them up. I do know one reason is because we are holding them as enemy combatants we have to use military tribunals (or what ever they are called). I also think even after his 5 months are up Bush will hold him as an enemy combatant as long as he is president. I agree what the judge said was wierd and maybe he had his agenda. They may also use his words to call for a new trial as they maybe able to show the judge showed a bias attitude. I would call military courts a kangaroo court as most do a good job and these guys have served our country. I have seen plenty of kangaroo civilian courts.

Monkeydad · 08-08-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

lol here we go. It's all Clinton's fault.

Finally you admitted it.

MTK · 08-08-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Finally you admitted it.

Right. I'd admit that as soon as you admit that Bush has been a major F up.

08-07-2008, 08:41 PM	#1
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	66 Months, Out in 5! The long awaited first terrorist military trial and sentencing is in ladies and gentleman and the verdict is, well, not satisfying. Question is what happens to him in 5 months? __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

08-08-2008, 05:13 AM	#2
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! I was fairly annoyed when I saw this yesterday but assumed I'd be in the minority regarding our handling of enemy combatants. But stuff like: “After that, I don’t know what happens,” said Judge Allred, who had developed a warm relationship with Mr. Hamdan during months of pretrial hearings. And: Mr. Hamdan, who at times has shown a mischievous sense of humor, raised his arms and said a good-natured, “Bye, bye everybody.” And: “Inshallah,” Judge Allred responded. And: Mr. Hamdan’s answer to his safety if returned to Yemen, Professor Schmitz said, was: “Look, you guys get me out of Gitmo. I’ll take care of Yemen.” Speechless..........Fortunately I can still type. This is clearly a war our Government doesn't intend to 'win', as such. If I were on trial I am fairly certain I wouldn't be 'showing a mischievous sense of humor'. What about the impartiality of the Judge? He developed a warm relationship with a defendant?!?!??! Does he even understand what 'inshallah' means? No, it's not as simple as 'god willing', you utter moron! We are so screwed if this is the best we can do. Last edited by RedskinRat; 08-08-2008 at 07:18 AM.

08-08-2008, 07:28 AM	#3
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08-08-2008, 07:46 AM	#4
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08-08-2008, 10:26 AM	#6
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! It was a solid opportunity for the current Administration to set the tone, I really don't think that was achieved. Having said that, what does everyone think should have been done? I'd be interested to know. I also promise I won't be replying to the thread and 'discussing' it.

08-08-2008, 10:40 AM	#8
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08-08-2008, 10:45 AM	#9
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! Osama bin Laden: missed opportunities - Nightly News with Brian Williams - MSNBC.com Too....hard.....to.....resist.....damn it!

08-08-2008, 10:46 AM	#10
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! RedskinRat, I'm not sure why the judge's "Inshallah" response bothers you? As for what should have been done, I would have taken the civilian court route. What really bothers me is that we've spend 7 years and millions of dollars to convict a lowly driver in a kangaroo court...and all he got was 66 months....so retarded. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

08-08-2008, 10:49 AM	#11
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! Stop with the blame game and see the principles of the matter...and the question is what to do with him after he's out. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

66 Months, Out in 5!

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