Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL?

BleedBurgundy · 08-26-2008, 02:56 PM

Ranking each team's No. 2 quarterback - Don Banks - SI.com

Seriously, has this clown seen any of our games this preseason?

GhettoDogAllStars · 08-26-2008, 03:00 PM

That's right ... Superbowl, here we come!

dmek25 · 08-26-2008, 03:03 PM

remember how he played last preseason? and then what happened once he took over for Campbell? that's right, Todd, you the man

hesscl34 · 08-26-2008, 03:08 PM

I for one am pretty damn happy he's our back up!

BleedBurgundy · 08-26-2008, 03:10 PM

We could definitely be worse off than ol' TC, but best in the NFL? I'm thinking there's at least 5-10 better out there.

Now, I'd say TC is definitely the best in an Al Saunders' system, but that's not the case anymore...

Schneed10 · 08-26-2008, 03:15 PM

Yeah if Saunders were still here, I'd agree. But he's not.

I'd still put TC in the top 10 though, if not top 5.

MTK · 08-26-2008, 03:22 PM

Despite his "struggles" his numbers are pretty good this preseason especially considering he works mainly with the backups. I'm pretty confident that if called upon #15 would be solid.

redsk1 · 08-26-2008, 03:29 PM

I'd have to rank Trent Green, concussions and all, higher. He's back w/ Al Saunders and he knows the system.

TC is top10 no doubt, maybe top 5, but i have a hard time believing he's the best backup out there. TC has had an OK preseason but i'm not sure he fits into an offense like this. TC is like a statue back there. If he would only sense the pocket collapsing and step up or move around a little. The accuracy is there, the mobility not so much.

firstdown · 08-26-2008, 03:36 PM

Well hey give the guy some credit he did know we are now running a WC offense. Maybe he has seen the way JC is holding the ball and taking hits so he thinks Todd has the #1 chance of seeing playing time.

MTK · 08-26-2008, 03:44 PM

It's funny, whenever one of our player gets some nice props people want to knock them down. But whenever we feel they got "dissed" we're up in arms over it. You just can't win.

BleedBurgundy · 08-26-2008, 03:45 PM

The fact that Colt Brennan isn't listed #1 clearly demonstrates his lack of knowledge.

FRPLG · 08-26-2008, 03:45 PM

I am a TC believer but I think the notion that he can execute the WCO better than Campbell is foolish. He is immobile and straight away that is a key compenent of the offense. I have a firm belief that in a pinch he can win us games but that is predicated on a belief that Zorn can gameplan the offense to fit Collins' strengths. If Campbell can just get some confidence he is going to be good. Right now he doesn't seem confident enough to make some of the throws that he can surely make which is why he seems to hold the ball too long. He's gotta drop back. Find the little opening and slam it in rather than waiting for a wide open reciever.

saden1 · 08-26-2008, 03:47 PM

Wow, so many former Redskins playing second fiddle.

Gus Frerotte, Mark Brunell, Patrick Ramsey, Brad Johnson, Sage Rosenfels, and Trent Green.

skinsfan69 · 08-26-2008, 03:50 PM

I think TC is a top 5 back-up. But the best back-up in the NFL is Kerry Collins. I think he's better than half the current starters in the league. He's better than the starter on his own team! I just don't understand why a team like Baltimore doesn't just go out and get a guy like Kerry Collins.

dmek25 · 08-26-2008, 03:50 PM

you had to go and bring up Patrick Ramsey, didnt you?

08-26-2008, 03:00 PM	#2
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08-26-2008, 03:03 PM	#3
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? remember how he played last preseason? and then what happened once he took over for Campbell? that's right, Todd, you the man __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

08-26-2008, 03:08 PM	#4
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? I for one am pretty damn happy he's our back up!

08-26-2008, 03:10 PM	#5
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? We could definitely be worse off than ol' TC, but best in the NFL? I'm thinking there's at least 5-10 better out there. Now, I'd say TC is definitely the best in an Al Saunders' system, but that's not the case anymore... __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

08-26-2008, 03:15 PM	#6
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,426	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? Yeah if Saunders were still here, I'd agree. But he's not. I'd still put TC in the top 10 though, if not top 5. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

08-26-2008, 02:56 PM	#1
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? Ranking each team's No. 2 quarterback - Don Banks - SI.com Seriously, has this clown seen any of our games this preseason? __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

08-26-2008, 03:22 PM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? Despite his "struggles" his numbers are pretty good this preseason especially considering he works mainly with the backups. I'm pretty confident that if called upon #15 would be solid. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-26-2008, 03:29 PM	#8
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? I'd have to rank Trent Green, concussions and all, higher. He's back w/ Al Saunders and he knows the system. TC is top10 no doubt, maybe top 5, but i have a hard time believing he's the best backup out there. TC has had an OK preseason but i'm not sure he fits into an offense like this. TC is like a statue back there. If he would only sense the pocket collapsing and step up or move around a little. The accuracy is there, the mobility not so much.

08-26-2008, 03:36 PM	#9
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? Well hey give the guy some credit he did know we are now running a WC offense. Maybe he has seen the way JC is holding the ball and taking hits so he thinks Todd has the #1 chance of seeing playing time.

08-26-2008, 03:44 PM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? It's funny, whenever one of our player gets some nice props people want to knock them down. But whenever we feel they got "dissed" we're up in arms over it. You just can't win. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-26-2008, 03:45 PM	#11
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? The fact that Colt Brennan isn't listed #1 clearly demonstrates his lack of knowledge. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

08-26-2008, 03:45 PM	#12
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? I am a TC believer but I think the notion that he can execute the WCO better than Campbell is foolish. He is immobile and straight away that is a key compenent of the offense. I have a firm belief that in a pinch he can win us games but that is predicated on a belief that Zorn can gameplan the offense to fit Collins' strengths. If Campbell can just get some confidence he is going to be good. Right now he doesn't seem confident enough to make some of the throws that he can surely make which is why he seems to hold the ball too long. He's gotta drop back. Find the little opening and slam it in rather than waiting for a wide open reciever.

08-26-2008, 03:47 PM	#13
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? Wow, so many former Redskins playing second fiddle. Gus Frerotte, Mark Brunell, Patrick Ramsey, Brad Johnson, Sage Rosenfels, and Trent Green. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

08-26-2008, 03:50 PM	#14
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,327	Re: Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL? I think TC is a top 5 back-up. But the best back-up in the NFL is Kerry Collins. I think he's better than half the current starters in the league. He's better than the starter on his own team! I just don't understand why a team like Baltimore doesn't just go out and get a guy like Kerry Collins.

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