Chris Mortensen:best defensive rookie in the NFL

Redskins8588 · 09-01-2004, 06:01 PM

harry(DC): Have you seen sean taylor? he's a monster! the redskins were definitely the wiser to choose him instead of winslow. his attitude wouldn't fit well with a gibbs team. which rookies do you think will have the most impact on defense?

Chris Mortensen: Sean Taylor is hands-down the best defensive rookie in the NFL and he may prove to be one of the best players, regardless of position. His personality is puzzling but we have to judge him on his field play for now.

Beemnseven · 09-01-2004, 06:25 PM

It is soooo nice to finally be right about a 1st round draft pick and watch everyone else eat their words about how we should have taken Kellen Winslow.

beg8878 · 09-01-2004, 06:26 PM

I dont think I've been as excited about a rookie being this good in a long time. I remember the excitment when we drafted LA and Samuels, but I dont remember them playing with such a "nasty" streak like Taylor has right out of the gate.

That Guy · 09-01-2004, 06:30 PM

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His personality is puzzling

he's quiet and he wants to win... he also likes being left alone.

Redskins8588 · 09-01-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

he's quiet and he wants to win... he also likes being left alone.

IMO, There is nothing puzzling about that!!!

Redskins8588 · 09-01-2004, 06:41 PM

That Guy: I was just joking about the smily face guy, I thought it was funny!!

skinsfanthru&thru · 09-01-2004, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by beg8878

I dont think I've been as excited about a rookie being this good in a long time. I remember the excitment when we drafted LA and Samuels, but I dont remember them playing with such a "nasty" streak like Taylor has right out of the gate.

I remember lavar having a bit of a nasty streak at the beginning but he had no where near the production Taylor has provided this early in his pro career. It's kinda scary thinking about how well and how much he's done so far when u take into consideration he has only played a half at the most during any one game. I was one of the guys who would have been happy with either taylor or winslow though I was leaning a bit towards winslow as the last peice to make our offense dominant, but Taylor has vastly exceeded my hopes for him at this point in the season and I am glad the FO didn't go with the popular way of thinking among football "experts."

That Guy · 09-01-2004, 06:49 PM

KWII was pissed off about going to the loser browns more than anything i think... washington was a team with a high pick that almost has a lock on a winning season, plus washington DC has a lot more local endorsement money floating around.

Either way, he's an a$$ and taylors a monster... how's this for a comparision:
Sean Taylor - 3 ints, 3 passes defended, 2 FF, 1 recovery, 1 TD, 8-2 tackles/assists
Kellen Winslow - 2 catches, 35 yards, -15 penalty yards

hmm...

SKINSnCANES · 09-01-2004, 06:50 PM

if taylor doesnt improve as a rookie hes still the biggest playmaker we have on defense, but hes only going ot get better.

Theres one big thing that is going to change about him that will make him even better, HES GOING TO PLAY THE ENTIRE GAME!!!

Just imagine if he had been playing for more than a qtr against those backups, he would have eaten them alive.

Daseal · 09-01-2004, 07:06 PM

I think Taylor is a gifted player, but before proclaiming him defensive rookie of the year I wanna see him in regular season. I think he'll do very well, very very very well. I just think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves.

In Winslow's defense as far as stats, how many balls have been thrown his way? 2-3?

wolfeskins · 09-01-2004, 07:12 PM

the only thing that scares me about tayler is if he has a huge year,which he should,he's probably going to want to renegotiate his contract which could cause some friction between him,gibbs and snyder.that could lead to a holdout next season. its already been reported that he's not happy with the current contract.

GoSkins! · 09-01-2004, 09:47 PM

It is pretty obvious that Taylor is going to be a big time playmaker. I hope that Gibbs can earn his trust and respect or next season we will be hard pressed to get the guy into camp before giving him some ridiculous new contract. He knows what to do on the field, but seems totally paranoid about the rest.

Hail to the Redskins · 09-02-2004, 09:45 AM

One note on Taylor... check out these numbers...

In 12 games at UM last year...

55 tackles, 10 INTs, 13 PassDef

In 4 preseason games this year (which actually equates to only 2 full games)...

10 tackles, 3 INTs, 3 PassDef

That means that in the passed 16 games (really only 14)...

65 tackles, 13 INTs, 16 PassDef

Overall, can anyone remember anyone intercepting 13 passes in 14 games on any level?? I too am wary of overhype... it only leads to disappointment and frustration... so hey, if he only gets 4 picks this year, I'm OK with that... my point is ... DAMN he has been absolutely amazing in his passed 16 (14) games!!! What a BEAST!

FRPLG · 09-02-2004, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

One note on Taylor... check out these numbers...

In 12 games at UM last year...

55 tackles, 10 INTs, 13 PassDef

In 4 preseason games this year (which actually equates to only 2 full games)...

10 tackles, 3 INTs, 3 PassDef

That means that in the passed 16 games (really only 14)...

65 tackles, 13 INTs, 16 PassDef

Overall, can anyone remember anyone intercepting 13 passes in 14 games on any level?? I too am wary of overhype... it only leads to disappointment and frustration... so hey, if he only gets 4 picks this year, I'm OK with that... my point is ... DAMN he has been absolutely amazing in his passed 16 (14) games!!! What a BEAST!

He also basically shut it down in the second half of last year to avoid injury according to most who watched the Canes. Maybe our boy SKINSnKANES has an opinion on that. Anyways if he did shut it down and STILL had that production it just shows his natural ability is so good he can make plays without even trying.

JoeRedskin · 09-02-2004, 10:10 AM

Okay guys, reality check time. No matter how good he has looked so far, THE SEASON HASN'T STARTED. While I generally agree that Taylor looks like he will live up to his billing, let's wait until we see him in a game that counts.

Don't get me wrong, I think the evidence so far is that he will be very good. BUT, so far, he is facing vanilla offenses and being allowed to play on instinct; he hasn't really faced complex offenses designed to confuse HIM. I expect that he will be picked on early and will make some costly coverage errors, just like any rookie.

With that said, I think he is going to be a difference maker in time. The only question is how long before it happens.

09-01-2004, 06:01 PM	#1
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Chris Mortensen:best defensive rookie in the NFL harry(DC): Have you seen sean taylor? he's a monster! the redskins were definitely the wiser to choose him instead of winslow. his attitude wouldn't fit well with a gibbs team. which rookies do you think will have the most impact on defense? Chris Mortensen: Sean Taylor is hands-down the best defensive rookie in the NFL and he may prove to be one of the best players, regardless of position. His personality is puzzling but we have to judge him on his field play for now. __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

09-01-2004, 06:41 PM	#6
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	That Guy: I was just joking about the smily face guy, I thought it was funny!! __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

09-01-2004, 06:50 PM	#9
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	if taylor doesnt improve as a rookie hes still the biggest playmaker we have on defense, but hes only going ot get better. Theres one big thing that is going to change about him that will make him even better, HES GOING TO PLAY THE ENTIRE GAME!!! Just imagine if he had been playing for more than a qtr against those backups, he would have eaten them alive. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

09-02-2004, 09:45 AM	#13
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687	One note on Taylor... check out these numbers... In 12 games at UM last year... 55 tackles, 10 INTs, 13 PassDef In 4 preseason games this year (which actually equates to only 2 full games)... 10 tackles, 3 INTs, 3 PassDef That means that in the passed 16 games (really only 14)... 65 tackles, 13 INTs, 16 PassDef Overall, can anyone remember anyone intercepting 13 passes in 14 games on any level?? I too am wary of overhype... it only leads to disappointment and frustration... so hey, if he only gets 4 picks this year, I'm OK with that... my point is ... DAMN he has been absolutely amazing in his passed 16 (14) games!!! What a BEAST! __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

09-01-2004, 06:25 PM	#2
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	It is soooo nice to finally be right about a 1st round draft pick and watch everyone else eat their words about how we should have taken Kellen Winslow.

09-01-2004, 06:26 PM	#3
beg8878 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 46 Posts: 270	I dont think I've been as excited about a rookie being this good in a long time. I remember the excitment when we drafted LA and Samuels, but I dont remember them playing with such a "nasty" streak like Taylor has right out of the gate.

09-01-2004, 06:49 PM	#8
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	KWII was pissed off about going to the loser browns more than anything i think... washington was a team with a high pick that almost has a lock on a winning season, plus washington DC has a lot more local endorsement money floating around. Either way, he's an a$$ and taylors a monster... how's this for a comparision: Sean Taylor - 3 ints, 3 passes defended, 2 FF, 1 recovery, 1 TD, 8-2 tackles/assists Kellen Winslow - 2 catches, 35 yards, -15 penalty yards hmm...

09-01-2004, 07:06 PM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I think Taylor is a gifted player, but before proclaiming him defensive rookie of the year I wanna see him in regular season. I think he'll do very well, very very very well. I just think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves. In Winslow's defense as far as stats, how many balls have been thrown his way? 2-3?

09-01-2004, 07:12 PM	#11
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	the only thing that scares me about tayler is if he has a huge year,which he should,he's probably going to want to renegotiate his contract which could cause some friction between him,gibbs and snyder.that could lead to a holdout next season. its already been reported that he's not happy with the current contract.

09-01-2004, 09:47 PM	#12
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	It is pretty obvious that Taylor is going to be a big time playmaker. I hope that Gibbs can earn his trust and respect or next season we will be hard pressed to get the guy into camp before giving him some ridiculous new contract. He knows what to do on the field, but seems totally paranoid about the rest.

09-02-2004, 10:10 AM	#15
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Okay guys, reality check time. No matter how good he has looked so far, THE SEASON HASN'T STARTED. While I generally agree that Taylor looks like he will live up to his billing, let's wait until we see him in a game that counts. Don't get me wrong, I think the evidence so far is that he will be very good. BUT, so far, he is facing vanilla offenses and being allowed to play on instinct; he hasn't really faced complex offenses designed to confuse HIM. I expect that he will be picked on early and will make some costly coverage errors, just like any rookie. With that said, I think he is going to be a difference maker in time. The only question is how long before it happens.

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