How many safeties will skins keep?

700321 · 09-02-2004, 04:48 PM

how many will they keep???

4 ???

taylor
lott
bowen
franz
clark???

what do ya'll think

EEich · 09-02-2004, 05:00 PM

4
taylor
bowen
lott
franz

Big C · 09-02-2004, 05:56 PM

who is clark

CRT3 · 09-02-2004, 06:06 PM

I think 4 but maybe they will cut Bowen and pick up a waived saftey off the wire.

That Guy · 09-02-2004, 08:27 PM

i'd bet against that happening crt, if anything they'd cut franz...

dieselhog · 09-03-2004, 07:03 AM

The cap hit on cutting Bowen (remember we outbid his old team Green Bay on an offer sheet) pretty much assures that he is with us this season and probably next.

joethiesmanfan · 09-03-2004, 07:38 AM

damn Matt Bowen that sorry mf. a waste of salary cap space. How are we gonna get better with dead weight on the roster. Let him go take the cap hit we got Taylor.

MTK · 09-03-2004, 09:34 AM

Everyone wants to cut Bowen but I really don't see it happening. Mainly because we do we have to start at his spot? Lott with Franz as a backup? Yikes.

I'm not a big fan of Bowen myself but I wouldn't feel comfortable letting him go with what's behind him.

Drift Reality · 09-03-2004, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselhog

The cap hit on cutting Bowen (remember we outbid his old team Green Bay on an offer sheet) pretty much assures that he is with us this season and probably next.

Bowen signed a 4-year deal for 6 million - 1.6 million signing bonus. That's not too prohibitive if we want to cut him. I think we'd only take a .8 million dollar cut (haven't the bonuses for 2004 been assessed already?)

That Guy · 09-03-2004, 11:47 AM

the problem with cutting him is that THE BACKUPS AREN'T ANY BETTER!!!

Gmanc711 · 09-03-2004, 11:58 AM

Yeah I'm with that guy. Bowen is way better than a guy like Franz or Clark. Lott could be better than Bowen in the long run, but I personally still feel bowen is better. I think cutting him would be uttlerly rediculous, personally.

CRT3 · 09-03-2004, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

the problem with cutting him is that THE BACKUPS AREN'T ANY BETTER!!!

Yes but read my post. MAYBE we might cut Bowen (Very limited dead money on cap, plus we have to take a hit on the cap someday, Just say Deion, shall I refresh memories) and possibly pick up somebody on the waiver wire. This is possbile if you know Cerrato

Big C · 09-03-2004, 03:31 PM

lott is the man, thats why bowen should get benched

Defensewins · 09-03-2004, 03:59 PM

Now that we have seen what a great safety (Sean Taylor) brings to a defense, I now realize how bad our other safeties have been.
What disappoints me more than anything about Bowen's style of play is he is too reactive and not proactive enough. He seems to always be a step behind every play. That is why his interceptions and solo tackles totals are so low. You almost never see him sniff out a play, anticipate and pounce on a play. Any half decent Strong Safety has to be able to do this. His on field brain skills are lacking. For a safety that has been in the NFL for 5 years, he should be better at this stage of his career.
Give him one more season to see if he will finally develop. But if he doesn't, it will be time to cut him.

JoeRedskin · 09-03-2004, 04:50 PM

Not to disagree about MB's impact at safety, 'cause I don't - he came with lots of promise but hasn't lived up to it. However, may some of the problem in his recognition and instinct be caused from playing FS as opposed to SS (or is it the other way around)?

I know we have had this posted several times but I still get confused as to the different qualities needed by a SS versus a FS. Is it possible to be a poor SS but a good FS or vice versa? Or are the skill sets so similar as to make such a distinction practically irrelevant?

09-02-2004, 04:48 PM	#1
700321 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3	How many safeties will skins keep? how many will they keep??? 4 ??? taylor lott bowen franz clark??? what do ya'll think

09-02-2004, 05:56 PM	#3
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	who is clark __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-03-2004, 03:31 PM	#13
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	lott is the man, thats why bowen should get benched __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-02-2004, 05:00 PM	#2
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 60 Posts: 1,001	4 taylor bowen lott franz

09-02-2004, 06:06 PM	#4
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	I think 4 but maybe they will cut Bowen and pick up a waived saftey off the wire.

09-02-2004, 08:27 PM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	i'd bet against that happening crt, if anything they'd cut franz...

09-03-2004, 07:03 AM	#6
dieselhog Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bolton, Lancashire Age: 53 Posts: 166	The cap hit on cutting Bowen (remember we outbid his old team Green Bay on an offer sheet) pretty much assures that he is with us this season and probably next.

09-03-2004, 07:38 AM	#7
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	damn Matt Bowen that sorry mf. a waste of salary cap space. How are we gonna get better with dead weight on the roster. Let him go take the cap hit we got Taylor.

09-03-2004, 09:34 AM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Everyone wants to cut Bowen but I really don't see it happening. Mainly because we do we have to start at his spot? Lott with Franz as a backup? Yikes. I'm not a big fan of Bowen myself but I wouldn't feel comfortable letting him go with what's behind him.

09-03-2004, 11:47 AM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	the problem with cutting him is that THE BACKUPS AREN'T ANY BETTER!!!

09-03-2004, 11:58 AM	#11
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Yeah I'm with that guy. Bowen is way better than a guy like Franz or Clark. Lott could be better than Bowen in the long run, but I personally still feel bowen is better. I think cutting him would be uttlerly rediculous, personally.

09-03-2004, 03:59 PM	#14
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Now that we have seen what a great safety (Sean Taylor) brings to a defense, I now realize how bad our other safeties have been. What disappoints me more than anything about Bowen's style of play is he is too reactive and not proactive enough. He seems to always be a step behind every play. That is why his interceptions and solo tackles totals are so low. You almost never see him sniff out a play, anticipate and pounce on a play. Any half decent Strong Safety has to be able to do this. His on field brain skills are lacking. For a safety that has been in the NFL for 5 years, he should be better at this stage of his career. Give him one more season to see if he will finally develop. But if he doesn't, it will be time to cut him.

09-03-2004, 04:50 PM	#15
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Not to disagree about MB's impact at safety, 'cause I don't - he came with lots of promise but hasn't lived up to it. However, may some of the problem in his recognition and instinct be caused from playing FS as opposed to SS (or is it the other way around)? I know we have had this posted several times but I still get confused as to the different qualities needed by a SS versus a FS. Is it possible to be a poor SS but a good FS or vice versa? Or are the skill sets so similar as to make such a distinction practically irrelevant?

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