The official cut Torrence thread

Vulta121 · 10-13-2008, 12:30 PM

Since we are cutting people.
We need to cut or bench Torrence. I'm tired of this guy. Every time I see this guy I think of the highlight of Moss catching a TD over his head. I know Moss is arguably the best receiver. But, I can't remember him doing anything positive. Ever. And as we all know he gave up the big play to the Rams rookie WR. If Smoot was it wouldn't have happened. I know its not all his fault but if he learns how to turn his head (a very basic skill most cb's in college posses) around then we might be complaining why we squeaked out a win to this horrendus team instead of losing to them.

SFREDSKIN · 10-13-2008, 12:38 PM

You can't blame this loss on Torrence. The guy has improved his play this year, he's definitely not a starter but is a decent backup. Everybody gets burned at sometime, are you going to cut all the players over mistakes made?

DynamiteRave · 10-13-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You can't blame this loss on Torrence. The guy has improved his play this year, he's definitely not a starter but is a decent backup. Everybody gets burned at sometime, are you going to cut all the players over mistakes made?

Did you see last season? Torrence gets burned a lot. The guy is a solid special teamer but line him up against a WR and you better close your eyes and cross your fingers. He's pretty much the Ade of the Skins this season.

SFREDSKIN · 10-13-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Did you see last season? Torrence gets burned a lot. The guy is a solid special teamer but line him up against a WR and you better close your eyes and cross your fingers. He's pretty much the Ade of the Skins this season.

Yes I did, but I have also seen him improve from last year. Would you rather have Tryon or Torrence play right now?

MTK · 10-13-2008, 12:49 PM

Ridiculous.

BDBohnzie · 10-13-2008, 12:50 PM

I'd really like to know why Smoot wasn't out there...but Torrance has definitely improved his game from last year. A mental lapse is warrented here and there, but that was just piss poor timing on Torrance's part. However, that one play did not make or break the game.

I'd like to see what GTripp and Dillweed (postgameheroes.com) have to say about breaking down that play and see if there were any other breakdowns other than Torrance.

DynamiteRave · 10-13-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yes I did, but I have also seen him improve from last year. Would you rather have Tryon or Torrence play right now?

Well I definitely don't think he deserves to be cut, seeing as he's our only option. But he's by no means good. Or even decent he's just... There.

So yes, I'd rather have Torrence. But I'm still closing my eyes and crossing my fingers.

MTK · 10-13-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

I'd really like to know why Smoot wasn't out there...but Torrance has definitely improved his game from last year. A mental lapse is warrented here and there, but that was just piss poor timing on Torrance's part. However, that one play did not make or break the game.

I'd like to see what GTripp and Dillweed (postgameheroes.com) have to say about breaking down that play and see if there were any other breakdowns other than Torrance.

Smoot was dinged up

johnerotten · 10-13-2008, 12:53 PM

i don't think they should cut him,but i do think there out to be a fireman on the sideline because he gets burned so often.i'd like to know why every db or safety seems to drop at least 2 ints every game? they must have dropped 3 or 4 yesterday.nobody's talking about it,but at least 1 could have changed the whole game around,especially the one that landry dropped after the skins scored that 1 st td.

hail_2_da_skins · 10-13-2008, 12:56 PM

In the post game show, it was revealed that there was a missed assignment on the long pass. One of the safeties, most likely Horton, was supposed to blitz, that's why Torrence ended up in one on one coverage. If you recall, the St. Louis quarterback had a ton of time to pick out the receiver. Pressure in his face could have altered that play and most likely the game. Torrence has been average this season.

Redskins_P · 10-13-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Smoot was dinged up

Thats starting to become a trend for Smoot. That poor guy can't stay healthy.

Skins_4_Lyfe · 10-13-2008, 01:01 PM

I'm all for it, where do I sign...Seriously though, I honestly can't think of any play(s) that he has made since he's been here. His career highlight was a pass that was deflected by his helment and intercepted by Rogers against Arizona. He is just a body on our defense

Skins_4_Lyfe · 10-13-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Smoot was dinged up

...As usual

SmootSmack · 10-13-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

In the post game show, it was revealed that there was a missed assignment on the long pass. One of the safeties, most likely Horton, was supposed to blitz, that's why Torrence ended up in one on one coverage. If you recall, the St. Louis quarterback had a ton of time to pick out the receiver. Pressure in his face could have altered that play and most likely the game. Torrence has been average this season.

Horton and I think Moore failed to come close to doing their job on the play, from what I've heard.

Torrence is no better than a nickle cornerback, but he has improved significantly in the past year. That was an unfortunate play where he got crossed up. In almost all cases, the WR wins the underthrown ball battle.

over the mountain · 10-13-2008, 01:23 PM

given the circumstances (bulger with time, being 1 on 1 with no help) i thought our 4th cb did a good job of covering avery on that play, avery just made a spectacular adjustment and catch.

just like arch deluxes last year and reed this year against witten, good coverage gets beat by a great throw and catch. it happens . . . .

about turning your head to find the ball in the air while your running full speed next to a guy . . . that is a very important skill that separates the best cbs from the average ones, rogers is just starting to be able to do that this year and it is the single biggest improvement in his game and the reason why he deserves serious pro bowl consideration. years past he would turn his head last second not find the ball and end up making contact early and drawing a PI.

this thread deserves to be over at extremeskins where extreme knee jerk reactions are the norm.

go skins!!

10-13-2008, 12:30 PM	#1
Vulta121 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 59	The official cut Torrence thread Since we are cutting people. We need to cut or bench Torrence. I'm tired of this guy. Every time I see this guy I think of the highlight of Moss catching a TD over his head. I know Moss is arguably the best receiver. But, I can't remember him doing anything positive. Ever. And as we all know he gave up the big play to the Rams rookie WR. If Smoot was it wouldn't have happened. I know its not all his fault but if he learns how to turn his head (a very basic skill most cb's in college posses) around then we might be complaining why we squeaked out a win to this horrendus team instead of losing to them. __________________ Sean Taylor a True BAMF! http://alcamo21.myminicity.com

10-13-2008, 12:38 PM	#2
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	re: The official cut Torrence thread You can't blame this loss on Torrence. The guy has improved his play this year, he's definitely not a starter but is a decent backup. Everybody gets burned at sometime, are you going to cut all the players over mistakes made? __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-13-2008, 12:49 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	re: The official cut Torrence thread Ridiculous. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-13-2008, 12:50 PM	#6
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	re: The official cut Torrence thread I'd really like to know why Smoot wasn't out there...but Torrance has definitely improved his game from last year. A mental lapse is warrented here and there, but that was just piss poor timing on Torrance's part. However, that one play did not make or break the game. I'd like to see what GTripp and Dillweed (postgameheroes.com) have to say about breaking down that play and see if there were any other breakdowns other than Torrance. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-13-2008, 12:53 PM	#9
johnerotten Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: commonwealth of va Posts: 795	re: The official cut Torrence thread i don't think they should cut him,but i do think there out to be a fireman on the sideline because he gets burned so often.i'd like to know why every db or safety seems to drop at least 2 ints every game? they must have dropped 3 or 4 yesterday.nobody's talking about it,but at least 1 could have changed the whole game around,especially the one that landry dropped after the skins scored that 1 st td.

10-13-2008, 12:56 PM	#10
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 68 Posts: 868	re: The official cut Torrence thread In the post game show, it was revealed that there was a missed assignment on the long pass. One of the safeties, most likely Horton, was supposed to blitz, that's why Torrence ended up in one on one coverage. If you recall, the St. Louis quarterback had a ton of time to pick out the receiver. Pressure in his face could have altered that play and most likely the game. Torrence has been average this season. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

10-13-2008, 01:01 PM	#12
Skins_4_Lyfe Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Upper Marlboro, MD/Greensboro, NC Age: 37 Posts: 482	re: The official cut Torrence thread I'm all for it, where do I sign...Seriously though, I honestly can't think of any play(s) that he has made since he's been here. His career highlight was a pass that was deflected by his helment and intercepted by Rogers against Arizona. He is just a body on our defense __________________ WARRIOR

10-13-2008, 01:23 PM	#15
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: The official cut Torrence thread given the circumstances (bulger with time, being 1 on 1 with no help) i thought our 4th cb did a good job of covering avery on that play, avery just made a spectacular adjustment and catch. just like arch deluxes last year and reed this year against witten, good coverage gets beat by a great throw and catch. it happens . . . . about turning your head to find the ball in the air while your running full speed next to a guy . . . that is a very important skill that separates the best cbs from the average ones, rogers is just starting to be able to do that this year and it is the single biggest improvement in his game and the reason why he deserves serious pro bowl consideration. years past he would turn his head last second not find the ball and end up making contact early and drawing a PI. this thread deserves to be over at extremeskins where extreme knee jerk reactions are the norm. go skins!!

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