Uh-oh, where was Rock?

Beemnseven · 09-04-2004, 01:27 AM

Could that mean we've seen the end of Rock Cartwright? He didn't have any carries, and I don't think he even had a single play on offense. With the hard running of Sultan McCullough, and Ladell Betts solidifying his position as the #2, I'd say Rock will be the surprise cut on Sunday afternoon. He did put the ball on the ground once, against Denver, and overall I just don't know if he fits in with Gibbs' system as well as the other RBs do. It was a tight battle, but in the end, it was either him or Betts, and McCullough seems to have a lot of upside. Rock is the classic odd-man out if you ask me.

While John Simon has been completely non-existant for the past two games now, one would think he has shown enough to be on the practice squad at the very least. Ditto for Gari Scott -- but that's assuming that both are eligible for the practice squad. I have no idea if they are.

Other players who may have bought their plane tickets: Garnell Wilds -- he stood out on a couple of special teams plays earlier in preseason, but there were a few bonehead plays and penalties tonight from him. Also Rashad Bauman -- he hasn't seemed to be much of a part of the preseason plans from the coaching staff. Even Ade Jimoh has seen more action. To me, Bauman is right on the bubble -- he could still make the roster, but it won't shock me if his name is on the cut list too.

jrocx69 · 09-04-2004, 01:48 AM

simon and rock are hurt, and it was reported hours before the game. they never were gonna get any carries

MTK · 09-04-2004, 01:53 AM

I still think Rock will make the team, Simon gets cut and Sultan to the PS.

Bergman14 · 09-04-2004, 02:38 AM

rock will get cut as soon as i grow hair on my assss

Bergman14 · 09-04-2004, 02:40 AM

p.s. im drunk

mizzo skins man · 09-04-2004, 02:51 AM

Rock ain't goin no where. he is solid as his name.

skins009 · 09-04-2004, 02:54 AM

Rock's going to the practice squad.

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 09-04-2004, 03:00 AM

cartwright,betts,sultan,will make the team.simon will be on the PS or cut and signed by miami.i think te koslowaski is history and so is bauman,imo.

jamf · 09-04-2004, 03:13 AM

rocks not going on the practice squad. for a player to be put on PS, they have to be waived and clear waivers(no teams pick him up). i think he makes the team, but if he is cut, a team will definately pick him up. possibly the cowboys...

bedlamVR · 09-04-2004, 04:05 AM

I think that is going to be a key consideration Sultan may have the yards last night but Rocks has shown a lot in the heart stakes and Gibbs is always looking for his real Redskins...

...Plus i don't think any decision is going to be made soley based on last night practice has been very fierce and I rank Sultans chances of making though waivers to the PS much greater than the Rock...

That Guy · 09-04-2004, 04:15 AM

te kol and bauman stay, rock has the best chance... to be on the PS you can only have up to 1 year on an active nfl roster, and you can't be on the game for more than 8 games... rock is way way way past, and i think simon and mcollough probably are too... thats 9 weeks on the team, not playing in 9 games.

Big C · 09-04-2004, 11:02 AM

how did betts look last night, i didnt get a chance to watch the game.

jdlea · 09-04-2004, 11:17 AM

The solid running of Ladell Betts?! He had 3 yards per carry!

Big C · 09-04-2004, 11:19 AM

2 td's i see though

joecrisp · 09-04-2004, 01:01 PM

To the best of my knowledge, McCullough is the only runningback on the roster who has practice squad eligibility remaining. I've been a big Sultan supporter since he came here, and I'd love to see him continue to develop as a runner in this system. I saw some good things from him in last night's game, but it's clear he's still adapting to the speed of NFL defenders, and he needs to learn to be more aggressive turning upfield on wide runs. He seems to be doing well as a gunner-blocker on the punt return unit, though. I hope the coaches have seen enough good things from him to keep him around.

Personally, I'd like to see Betts, McCullough and Morton as the backups. But since McCullough has practice squad eligibility, and both Simon and Cartwright have performed well on special teams, I can see one of them taking that spot on the active roster. For me, it's a toss-up between the two. I think Simon's a superior receiver, and seems more versatile. It's common for Cartwright to be called a good short-yardage runner, because of his "bowling ball" build, but I've seen some tough running from Simon, as well. I'd take Simon over Cartwright, but that's just me.

My only concern here is that other teams have seen enough of McCullough during the past two preseasons to have an interest in him if he is released. Which brings me to the following question: have the coaches been feeding him the ball so much because they want him to earn a spot on this roster, or are they simply giving him an opportunity to latch on somewhere else? I certainly hope it's the former.

09-04-2004, 01:27 AM	#1
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Uh-oh, where was Rock? Could that mean we've seen the end of Rock Cartwright? He didn't have any carries, and I don't think he even had a single play on offense. With the hard running of Sultan McCullough, and Ladell Betts solidifying his position as the #2, I'd say Rock will be the surprise cut on Sunday afternoon. He did put the ball on the ground once, against Denver, and overall I just don't know if he fits in with Gibbs' system as well as the other RBs do. It was a tight battle, but in the end, it was either him or Betts, and McCullough seems to have a lot of upside. Rock is the classic odd-man out if you ask me. While John Simon has been completely non-existant for the past two games now, one would think he has shown enough to be on the practice squad at the very least. Ditto for Gari Scott -- but that's assuming that both are eligible for the practice squad. I have no idea if they are. Other players who may have bought their plane tickets: Garnell Wilds -- he stood out on a couple of special teams plays earlier in preseason, but there were a few bonehead plays and penalties tonight from him. Also Rashad Bauman -- he hasn't seemed to be much of a part of the preseason plans from the coaching staff. Even Ade Jimoh has seen more action. To me, Bauman is right on the bubble -- he could still make the roster, but it won't shock me if his name is on the cut list too.

09-04-2004, 03:00 AM	#8
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 61 Posts: 289	cartwright,betts,sultan,will make the team.simon will be on the PS or cut and signed by miami.i think te koslowaski is history and so is bauman,imo. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

09-04-2004, 11:02 AM	#12
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	how did betts look last night, i didnt get a chance to watch the game. __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-04-2004, 11:19 AM	#14
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	2 td's i see though __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-04-2004, 01:48 AM	#2
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	simon and rock are hurt, and it was reported hours before the game. they never were gonna get any carries

09-04-2004, 01:53 AM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I still think Rock will make the team, Simon gets cut and Sultan to the PS.

09-04-2004, 02:38 AM	#4
Bergman14 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Winston-Salem Age: 41 Posts: 138	rock will get cut as soon as i grow hair on my assss

09-04-2004, 02:40 AM	#5
Bergman14 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Winston-Salem Age: 41 Posts: 138	p.s. im drunk

09-04-2004, 02:51 AM	#6
mizzo skins man Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St. Joseph Missouri Age: 48 Posts: 83	Rock ain't goin no where. he is solid as his name.

09-04-2004, 02:54 AM	#7
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Rock's going to the practice squad.

09-04-2004, 03:13 AM	#9
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,319	rocks not going on the practice squad. for a player to be put on PS, they have to be waived and clear waivers(no teams pick him up). i think he makes the team, but if he is cut, a team will definately pick him up. possibly the cowboys...

09-04-2004, 04:05 AM	#10
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	I think that is going to be a key consideration Sultan may have the yards last night but Rocks has shown a lot in the heart stakes and Gibbs is always looking for his real Redskins... ...Plus i don't think any decision is going to be made soley based on last night practice has been very fierce and I rank Sultans chances of making though waivers to the PS much greater than the Rock...

09-04-2004, 04:15 AM	#11
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	te kol and bauman stay, rock has the best chance... to be on the PS you can only have up to 1 year on an active nfl roster, and you can't be on the game for more than 8 games... rock is way way way past, and i think simon and mcollough probably are too... thats 9 weeks on the team, not playing in 9 games.

09-04-2004, 11:17 AM	#13
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	The solid running of Ladell Betts?! He had 3 yards per carry!

09-04-2004, 01:01 PM	#15
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	To the best of my knowledge, McCullough is the only runningback on the roster who has practice squad eligibility remaining. I've been a big Sultan supporter since he came here, and I'd love to see him continue to develop as a runner in this system. I saw some good things from him in last night's game, but it's clear he's still adapting to the speed of NFL defenders, and he needs to learn to be more aggressive turning upfield on wide runs. He seems to be doing well as a gunner-blocker on the punt return unit, though. I hope the coaches have seen enough good things from him to keep him around. Personally, I'd like to see Betts, McCullough and Morton as the backups. But since McCullough has practice squad eligibility, and both Simon and Cartwright have performed well on special teams, I can see one of them taking that spot on the active roster. For me, it's a toss-up between the two. I think Simon's a superior receiver, and seems more versatile. It's common for Cartwright to be called a good short-yardage runner, because of his "bowling ball" build, but I've seen some tough running from Simon, as well. I'd take Simon over Cartwright, but that's just me. My only concern here is that other teams have seen enough of McCullough during the past two preseasons to have an interest in him if he is released. Which brings me to the following question: have the coaches been feeding him the ball so much because they want him to earn a spot on this roster, or are they simply giving him an opportunity to latch on somewhere else? I certainly hope it's the former.

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