Weakest Unit for Our Skins

CRT3 · 09-06-2004, 11:05 PM

I believe that Corners might be our weak link.

1. Corners
2. Return Game - Special Teams
3. Coverage Unit - Punting - Special Teams
4. Quarterback
5. D-Line

Give the thread of your top 5, in order, weakest position.

MTK · 09-06-2004, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRT3

I believe that Corners might be our weak link.

1. Corners
2. Return Game - Special Teams
3. Coverage Unit - Punting - Special Teams
4. Quarterback
5. D-Line

Give the thread of your top 5, in order, weakest position.

Do you mean CB depth? Because Springs and Smoot are a pretty decent staring tandem.

My areas of weakness would be:

1) d-line (no real "stars" up front)

2) DB depth (an injury away from being in some serious trouble)

3) RB depth (Betts is nice but his injuries will always be an issue until he stays healthy for an entire season)

4) WR (nice depth on paper but guys like McCants and Jacobs still have a lot to prove)

5) OL (this unit looked very strong early on but since Jansen's injury things have snowballed a bit. We can't afford to lose anyone else)

sportscurmudgeon · 09-06-2004, 11:25 PM

Here are the top five weak links:

1. Defensive line

2. Defensive line

3. Defensive line

4. Defensive line

5. Defensive line.

All other problem areas - prior to any debilitating injuries - pale in comparison to the talent deficiency on the defensive line. With the possible exception of Corneilus Griffin, no one else on the roster is a sure-fire starter for a team that is hot on the heels of a division championship. Daniels could be a situational player on such a team; everyone else would be looking for work.

That Guy · 09-06-2004, 11:26 PM

i honestly don't think we have any real problems except for lackluster d-line and DB/RB depth... (if portis/betts get injured, our running game becomes pretty weak)

I think jacobs could step up and mccants too... QB situation isn't quite the peyton manning experience, but i think brunell will help the team much more than hurt it (i don't expect 5 TD/400yd games from him or anything)

That Guy · 09-06-2004, 11:31 PM

on the flip side, i think our O is strong all around... getting samuels and thomas back would definately help though... but i think cooley, our WRs, and portis are big pluses overall... on D we have 8 legit starters (counting lott/bowen as legit) and 3 D-linemen that could be better... our safety/D-line depth is alright, but not great... the only real depth problem is CB, and with springs history, well... i hope he stays healthy.

illdefined · 09-06-2004, 11:39 PM

pretty much agree with you Matty, except for the order. i'd put corners first. Spring's health is really whats holding our D up. i see him as the key and its scary.

1. DBs, reliance on Springs for entire defense to work. uncertainty and thinness at nickelback.

2. DLine, DLine, DLine. don't need a household name, but need a surprise like Gardener was. LBs are good but not THAT good to stop the run AND pass rush. much less cover TEs too.

3. OLine. of course Jansen. Samuels is nicked up, still shaken from last year. Thomas nicked up too. all the backups are essentially rookies. if we get another big injury and have to reshuffle, forget Portis and forget...

4. WR. Coles won't be 100% all YEAR. Gardner still needs to prove he can catch the clutch ones. Jacobs needs to saty healthy, and Thrash is Thrash, proven to not even be good enough for #2.

5. RBs, while Betts isn't known for durability, we'd have to (god forbid) lose Portis THEN Betts. knock on wood, not so likely. what i'm concerned about is a true short yardage pile pusher. heart can only overcome physics some of the time, not all of the time. those situations WILL come up, and OFTEN. Rock needs to gain that weight BACK.

illdefined · 09-06-2004, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Here are the top five weak links:

1-5. Defensive line

heh, my first instinct was to say that too, but if worse came to worse, our LBs can do some of the DLine's job, and Taylor could do some of our LB's job and save our ass. definitely shouldn't be that way though.

no one can do the corner's jobs.

very disappointed the FO didn't try harder to bring some fire onto the Dline. they obviously respect one side of the trenches more than the other.

Gmanc711 · 09-07-2004, 12:01 AM

DLine is the only real " Problem " area that I can see with this team. You can throw Quarterbacks in there, but seriously, we have the people who are quite capable of running a NFL offense efficently, they just need the time to learn. The CB position is just the lack of depth. If Smoot/Springs are healthy we can be fine, if Walt Harris is healthy soon and can step in if someone gets hurt were fine. Outside of those three however, were bascially screwed. So really the D-Line is the only area of concern I have, but I think that our coaching can help overcome the lack of bigtime talent we have there.

RedskinRat · 09-07-2004, 12:14 AM

1. WP's negative media coverage.
2. Potential lightweight fans.
3. Expensive tickets.
4. Not being able to walk to the stadium.
5. The price of the concessions.

As for the team, just like the Patriots the component parts don't add up to the tremendous total. Coach Gibbs (And coaching staff) will be the catalyst.

That Guy · 09-07-2004, 01:37 AM

but unlike the patriots, we have portis and coles... and a pair of killer LBs

Brute44 · 09-07-2004, 03:47 AM

1 Entire Secondary-Smoot and Springs have to have a good season for this team to win. Taylor made some plays but that was Preseason now lets see what he can do.
2 Defense line-One would think that it will be better than last season but Daniels has been hurt and if he goes down who's gonna be a threat, Wynn?
3 Quarterbacks, Brunnell needs to stay healthy or 7-9.
4 Wide Receivers, Coles isn't 100% and Gardner was trade bait a couple of weeks ago. Mccants and Thrash both need to play well this season.
5 Offensive Line, Didn't look to sharp in the Preseason with the run, kinda sloppy. They better open up some lanes for Portis or its gonna be a long season.

Daseal · 09-07-2004, 08:10 AM

No matter what our secondary will look bad because of the new emphasis on pass interference. We'll see more long balls, so will every team in the league.

jbcjr14 · 09-07-2004, 10:17 AM

1. D Line
2. D Line
3. D Line
4. D Line
5. Club seat season ticket holders that don't make noise!!!

cpayne5 · 09-07-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jbcjr14

5. Club seat season ticket holders that don't make noise!!!

These people are not restricted to the club level.

I had some old guy yell at me to sit down after the Vick fumble/ Pierce TD Friday.

Rediculous.

...and no, i didn't sit down...

RedskinPete · 09-07-2004, 11:00 AM

D line is weak!!!! Yes I wish for the old day of RFK were teams didn't wanted to play the REDSKINS. Could not hear themselfs think!

09-06-2004, 11:05 PM	#1
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	Weakest Unit for Our Skins I believe that Corners might be our weak link. 1. Corners 2. Return Game - Special Teams 3. Coverage Unit - Punting - Special Teams 4. Quarterback 5. D-Line Give the thread of your top 5, in order, weakest position.

09-07-2004, 10:17 AM	#13
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,015	1. D Line 2. D Line 3. D Line 4. D Line 5. Club seat season ticket holders that don't make noise!!! __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

09-06-2004, 11:25 PM	#3
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Here are the top five weak links: 1. Defensive line 2. Defensive line 3. Defensive line 4. Defensive line 5. Defensive line. All other problem areas - prior to any debilitating injuries - pale in comparison to the talent deficiency on the defensive line. With the possible exception of Corneilus Griffin, no one else on the roster is a sure-fire starter for a team that is hot on the heels of a division championship. Daniels could be a situational player on such a team; everyone else would be looking for work.

09-06-2004, 11:26 PM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	i honestly don't think we have any real problems except for lackluster d-line and DB/RB depth... (if portis/betts get injured, our running game becomes pretty weak) I think jacobs could step up and mccants too... QB situation isn't quite the peyton manning experience, but i think brunell will help the team much more than hurt it (i don't expect 5 TD/400yd games from him or anything)

09-06-2004, 11:31 PM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	on the flip side, i think our O is strong all around... getting samuels and thomas back would definately help though... but i think cooley, our WRs, and portis are big pluses overall... on D we have 8 legit starters (counting lott/bowen as legit) and 3 D-linemen that could be better... our safety/D-line depth is alright, but not great... the only real depth problem is CB, and with springs history, well... i hope he stays healthy.

09-06-2004, 11:39 PM	#6
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	pretty much agree with you Matty, except for the order. i'd put corners first. Spring's health is really whats holding our D up. i see him as the key and its scary. 1. DBs, reliance on Springs for entire defense to work. uncertainty and thinness at nickelback. 2. DLine, DLine, DLine. don't need a household name, but need a surprise like Gardener was. LBs are good but not THAT good to stop the run AND pass rush. much less cover TEs too. 3. OLine. of course Jansen. Samuels is nicked up, still shaken from last year. Thomas nicked up too. all the backups are essentially rookies. if we get another big injury and have to reshuffle, forget Portis and forget... 4. WR. Coles won't be 100% all YEAR. Gardner still needs to prove he can catch the clutch ones. Jacobs needs to saty healthy, and Thrash is Thrash, proven to not even be good enough for #2. 5. RBs, while Betts isn't known for durability, we'd have to (god forbid) lose Portis THEN Betts. knock on wood, not so likely. what i'm concerned about is a true short yardage pile pusher. heart can only overcome physics some of the time, not all of the time. those situations WILL come up, and OFTEN. Rock needs to gain that weight BACK.

09-07-2004, 12:01 AM	#8
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	DLine is the only real " Problem " area that I can see with this team. You can throw Quarterbacks in there, but seriously, we have the people who are quite capable of running a NFL offense efficently, they just need the time to learn. The CB position is just the lack of depth. If Smoot/Springs are healthy we can be fine, if Walt Harris is healthy soon and can step in if someone gets hurt were fine. Outside of those three however, were bascially screwed. So really the D-Line is the only area of concern I have, but I think that our coaching can help overcome the lack of bigtime talent we have there.

09-07-2004, 12:14 AM	#9
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	1. WP's negative media coverage. 2. Potential lightweight fans. 3. Expensive tickets. 4. Not being able to walk to the stadium. 5. The price of the concessions. As for the team, just like the Patriots the component parts don't add up to the tremendous total. Coach Gibbs (And coaching staff) will be the catalyst.

09-07-2004, 01:37 AM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	but unlike the patriots, we have portis and coles... and a pair of killer LBs

09-07-2004, 03:47 AM	#11
Brute44 Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 62	1 Entire Secondary-Smoot and Springs have to have a good season for this team to win. Taylor made some plays but that was Preseason now lets see what he can do. 2 Defense line-One would think that it will be better than last season but Daniels has been hurt and if he goes down who's gonna be a threat, Wynn? 3 Quarterbacks, Brunnell needs to stay healthy or 7-9. 4 Wide Receivers, Coles isn't 100% and Gardner was trade bait a couple of weeks ago. Mccants and Thrash both need to play well this season. 5 Offensive Line, Didn't look to sharp in the Preseason with the run, kinda sloppy. They better open up some lanes for Portis or its gonna be a long season.

09-07-2004, 08:10 AM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	No matter what our secondary will look bad because of the new emphasis on pass interference. We'll see more long balls, so will every team in the league.

09-07-2004, 11:00 AM	#15
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	D line is weak!!!! Yes I wish for the old day of RFK were teams didn't wanted to play the REDSKINS. Could not hear themselfs think!

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