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Old 11-21-2008, 05:38 PM   #1
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What happened to home field advantage??

I was looking through some sports news when i came across this article.ESPN Page 2 - Simmons: Home-field advantage has left the building

Tell me if you guys agree with this:
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:29 AM   #2
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Re: What happened to home field advantage??

Fairly interesting article. But if you look at things like the recent game at home with Pitt where 30% of the fans were from Pitt, or Qwest stadium, purportedly the loudest stadium... where we seem to have a hard time winning. I guess I'm saying there really isn't much to it either way.
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:40 AM   #3
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Re: What happened to home field advantage??

Michael Wilbon was right. The idea that Redskins fans are among the most hardcore in the league is a complete myth. Apart from this site, of course.

Fed Ex Field is a neutral site at best. I can't think of a stadium full of "fans" that supports the home team any less.

Even the lousy Raiders have a more dedicated bunch.
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:06 PM   #4
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Michael Wilbon was right. The idea that Redskins fans are among the most hardcore in the league is a complete myth. Apart from this site, of course.

Fed Ex Field is a neutral site at best. I can't think of a stadium full of "fans" that supports the home team any less.

Even the lousy Raiders have a more dedicated bunch.
Lincoln Financial where the eagles play, i wouldnt really call it "support".
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:33 PM   #5
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Michael Wilbon was right. The idea that Redskins fans are among the most hardcore in the league is a complete myth. Apart from this site, of course.

Fed Ex Field is a neutral site at best. I can't think of a stadium full of "fans" that supports the home team any less.

Even the lousy Raiders have a more dedicated bunch.
Come on you really believe that Fed Ex is neutral at best. At the begging of the year I saw Dallas playing the Cards and for a whole 1/4 I thought it was at Dallas. It would be interesting to look at the size of the stadium and then see which team has the best fan response. I think we would see the smaller stadiums would win. I have also heard allot of other teams players say how loud Fed Ex can get. Maybe its size fools us.
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:40 PM   #6
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Re: What happened to home field advantage??

It would be great if we had a smaller (70,000) seat stadium in DC, with the best of current facilities and architecture. FedEx is too big and impersonal. Plus, at 90,000 there are always spare tickets for visiting fans.

But the team also needs to win. When the team is rolling at home, it's as loud and crazy as many places. But putting up a measly 10 points against the roids will not bring the faithful from their seats.

Hopefully in the not so distant future we'll move back to DC itself. Until then, FedEx will be hit or miss.
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:41 PM   #7
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Re: What happened to home field advantage??

The fact is, the Nation is more transient, has been since the 1990's. People move, people get relocated, people get promoted, people graduate from college and take what they find. The more remote the area, such as Denver, Green Bay, etc...the better, but in place like DC, a melting pot, well, it happens.

FEDEX rocks many games I go to, sometimes it does not. It isn't RFK, never will be. BUT, I must admit, the Pittsburgh game was kind of disturbing.
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Re: What happened to home field advantage??

I would like the stadium to be full of seats with little to no club level seating. Just rows of metal bleachers would keep the starbucks crowd out.
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:46 PM   #9
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It would be great if we had a smaller (70,000) seat stadium in DC, with the best of current facilities and architecture. FedEx is too big and impersonal. Plus, at 90,000 there are always spare tickets for visiting fans.

But the team also needs to win. When the team is rolling at home, it's as loud and crazy as many places. But putting up a measly 10 points against the roids will not bring the faithful from their seats.

Hopefully in the not so distant future we'll move back to DC itself. Until then, FedEx will be hit or miss.
I disagree about the crowd noise. FedEx field has 35,000 more seats than RFK, but can't hold a candle to it in terms of noise. I attended many a game at RFK that left my ears ringing for hours, not unlike going to a loud rock show. That has NEVER happended to me at FedEx, and I've seen some great games there too, including the huge win over the 2005 Giants that was essentially a playoff game for us. I believe there are two factors at play:
  1. Too many "Corporate Fans"
  2. Poor Architecture for funnelling the sound to the stadium floor
RFK with it's curvature on the roof line kept most of the noise inside. FedEx field allows much of the noise to escape the top of the stadium.

Qwest Field is an example of a stadium with GREAT acoustics that gives the Seahawks a distinct homefield advantage. I hope that The Danny considers architectural issues for creating more noise if/when he builds a new stadium.
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Old 11-23-2008, 01:40 AM   #10
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I was looking through some sports news when i came across this article.ESPN Page 2 - Simmons: Home-field advantage has left the building

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that article gave excellent points,RFK seemed to have a huge home field advantage,fed ex rarely seems as loud as rfk did.
I wish for 1 game something happened to fed ex and the team had to play at rfk again and todays players saw what it was like,preferably a playoff game,that would be so great,the stadium would be rocking!
Is there any player currently on the skins that played at rfk?
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:50 PM   #11
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Lincoln Financial where the eagles play, i wouldnt really call it "support".
Okay, but how many times do you see their stadium infiltrated by fans of the opposing team? I'd say never.

Philly is one of those places where opposing fans are afraid to go.

So again, FedEx Field can't hold a candle to Philly's home field advantage.
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Old 11-23-2008, 11:07 PM   #12
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I am a Redskins season ticket holder and I have been for the last 7 or so years. My first seats were next to a chain link fence. That is right, I sat at the very top. I can tell you this, my seats have been moved down and I have been tempted to call the office and ask for my seats back at the top.
Why? you may ask: Because Redskins fans actually tell me to sit down on plays, they barely cheer and they want to drink more than cheer for a team. It upsets me a great deal. If you go to bar you get much more of the old RFK experience and alot cheaper tab! I go because I care about the Redskins, I have fun with my wife and have had many great memories with my father at these games. I suggest more fans for for that reason.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:43 PM   #13
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I am a Redskins season ticket holder and I have been for the last 7 or so years. My first seats were next to a chain link fence. That is right, I sat at the very top. I can tell you this, my seats have been moved down and I have been tempted to call the office and ask for my seats back at the top.
Why? you may ask: Because Redskins fans actually tell me to sit down on plays, they barely cheer and they want to drink more than cheer for a team. It upsets me a great deal. If you go to bar you get much more of the old RFK experience and alot cheaper tab! I go because I care about the Redskins, I have fun with my wife and have had many great memories with my father at these games. I suggest more fans for for that reason.
Dude! Do what I do! Tell the dude that wants you to sit down to stand up! Its 3rd Down! GET UP! I can't hear you! If they have a problem with it.........say you can't hear them again! If they still have a problem with it, after the noise has died down, tell them to get an usher. He WILL NOT care if you stand up during big plays! Trust me! I know!

With that being said. If you are consistently standing up...............just for the heck of it. Then he will say something.
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:15 PM   #14
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I disagree about the crowd noise. FedEx field has 35,000 more seats than RFK, but can't hold a candle to it in terms of noise. I attended many a game at RFK that left my ears ringing for hours, not unlike going to a loud rock show. That has NEVER happended to me at FedEx, and I've seen some great games there too, including the huge win over the 2005 Giants that was essentially a playoff game for us. I believe there are two factors at play:
  1. Too many "Corporate Fans"
  2. Poor Architecture for funnelling the sound to the stadium floor
RFK with it's curvature on the roof line kept most of the noise inside. FedEx field allows much of the noise to escape the top of the stadium.

Qwest Field is an example of a stadium with GREAT acoustics that gives the Seahawks a distinct homefield advantage. I hope that The Danny considers architectural issues for creating more noise if/when he builds a new stadium.
In the spirt of bumping old threads:

Seahawks fans cause seismic shock in playoff win - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports


Pretty cool on Seattle's part. Hopefully if Danny builds a stadium in DC he will try to copy some of the design of Qwest. Although at the end of the day the fans are gonna have to do their part.


Also as someone pointed out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_Game
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:22 PM   #15
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Michael Wilbon was right. The idea that Redskins fans are among the most hardcore in the league is a complete myth. Apart from this site, of course.

Fed Ex Field is a neutral site at best. I can't think of a stadium full of "fans" that supports the home team any less.

Even the lousy Raiders have a more dedicated bunch.
Not the case from I'd say from when George Allen first got here til 1993 when Gibs left. There is a completly new generation of fans that have only seen losing. And part of it is the somewhat older fans like myself are simply tired of the bullshit.
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