McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame

SmootSmack · 01-13-2009, 01:56 PM

What do you all think?

Are they already Hall of Famers?

Do either need to win or at least make the Super Bowl to be considered (all this is assuming they retired at the end of the season, which I don't think they would).

Are they not Hall of Famers no matter what happens these next couple of weeks?

over the mountain · 01-13-2009, 02:14 PM

interesting thought, a few years ago i didnt think warner did "it" long enough to be HOF worthy given that he didnt start in the league until he was what? 30? but he won the qb competition in AZ over a highly touted first round rook in leinart (great call by the AZ coaches to go with the qb who gives them the best chance to win vs not letting a heavy investment sit on the bench) . . i still dont think of warner as a HOfer but he does have a league and SB MVP (does he have 2 league MVPs?) . . not sure about warner. perhaps a SB win with another team might secure it for him. i could see the argument that he has played with explosive offensive teams cutting against him too.

mcnabb should def be in the HOF first ballot, superbowl win or not. if the eagles do win the SB i think he is a lock. he has made that philly team a consistent winner being in the nfc champ game something like 5 out of the past 10 years . .

warner = maybe
mcnabb = yes

go skins!!

SFREDSKIN · 01-13-2009, 02:24 PM

I would say Warner over McNabb. Warner has won a SB and has proven he can play even at his ripe age, if he makes it to another SB; then there's no doubt.

irish · 01-13-2009, 02:24 PM

I think both are HoFers. Warner won a SB and has been an MVP winning another SB would really make him a lock. I think McNabb is also a HoFer but IMO he needs a SB win to really secure his spot. I dont think either is a lock but I think both are worthy.

Hog1 · 01-13-2009, 02:28 PM

I heard that being talked about somewhere today. I did not realize McNabb's numbers were as good as they are. Both have to be in the discussion for HOF.

Meks · 01-13-2009, 02:29 PM

i dont think mcnabb is HOF at all.

GMScud · 01-13-2009, 02:34 PM

I would say Warner for sure. He has thrown for 300+ yards in over 45% of his starts. That's amazing. The next closest player is Dan Fouts at 28%. Plus he has a Super Bowl ring and an MVP.

McNabb is getting close I think. He's steadily been a winner in his career, but he's 1-3 in NFC Championship Games, and has never won a Super Bowl or MVP.

If I had to vote today, I would say Warner yes, McNabb no.

Meks · 01-13-2009, 02:43 PM

^ co-sign

MTK · 01-13-2009, 02:46 PM

Another ring for Warner with the season he's had and I would say he's pretty damn close to being a lock, a few years ago I would have said no way. Let's look at his career numbers: 28,591 passing yards, 182 TDs, 114 INTs, 93.8 rating, 3 seasons with over 4,000 yards, 4 seasons with at least 27 TDs, 65.4 career completion %. He's certainly got some good numbers.

With McNabb you've gotta figure he probably has at least 5 more years as a starter. Add a ring to that and he probably will be a Hall of Famer when all is said and done. Some of his career highlights: 29,320 passing yards, 194 TDs, 90 INTs, 5 seasons over the 3,000 yard mark, 4 seasons with at least 21 TDs, and even though he doesn't run like he used to he still has 3,109 yards rushing and 26 TDs over his career.

Dblock804 · 01-13-2009, 02:52 PM

For whatever reason I have enjoyed watching DM play and still dislike the eagles. Yes to both.

Skinny Tee · 01-13-2009, 02:53 PM

Warner should make it to the HOF on his story alone.

His rags to riches NFL story couldn't be better. I don't see why he wouldn't since he has a super bowl ring in tow.

McNabb has to win if he wants in.

KLHJ2 · 01-13-2009, 02:54 PM

I say yes to both. Yes to Warner because of his SB appearances

Yes to McNabb because he has only had a No. 1 reciever once in his career and has still managed to put up the numbers that he has. Outside of Westbrook, he has never had another weapon on the offense. That is HOF worthy if you ask me.

This does not change nor dilute my hatred towards McNabb, I just gotta give credit where credit is due.

Meks · 01-13-2009, 02:58 PM

mcnabb is not marino.

44ever · 01-13-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meks

mcnabb is not marino.

Niether is Warner but they are all HOF quality QB's. Warner was amazing and now is unbelievable. McNabb didn't play on the Rams. But did an amazing job with the Eagles. Like him or not, definatly HOF

MTK · 01-13-2009, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meks

mcnabb is not marino.

Not many guys are comparable to Marino. I don't understand your point.

01-13-2009, 01:56 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame What do you all think? Are they already Hall of Famers? Do either need to win or at least make the Super Bowl to be considered (all this is assuming they retired at the end of the season, which I don't think they would). Are they not Hall of Famers no matter what happens these next couple of weeks? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-13-2009, 02:14 PM	#2
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame interesting thought, a few years ago i didnt think warner did "it" long enough to be HOF worthy given that he didnt start in the league until he was what? 30? but he won the qb competition in AZ over a highly touted first round rook in leinart (great call by the AZ coaches to go with the qb who gives them the best chance to win vs not letting a heavy investment sit on the bench) . . i still dont think of warner as a HOfer but he does have a league and SB MVP (does he have 2 league MVPs?) . . not sure about warner. perhaps a SB win with another team might secure it for him. i could see the argument that he has played with explosive offensive teams cutting against him too. mcnabb should def be in the HOF first ballot, superbowl win or not. if the eagles do win the SB i think he is a lock. he has made that philly team a consistent winner being in the nfc champ game something like 5 out of the past 10 years . . warner = maybe mcnabb = yes go skins!!

01-13-2009, 02:24 PM	#3
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I would say Warner over McNabb. Warner has won a SB and has proven he can play even at his ripe age, if he makes it to another SB; then there's no doubt. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-13-2009, 02:24 PM	#4
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I think both are HoFers. Warner won a SB and has been an MVP winning another SB would really make him a lock. I think McNabb is also a HoFer but IMO he needs a SB win to really secure his spot. I dont think either is a lock but I think both are worthy.

01-13-2009, 02:28 PM	#5
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I heard that being talked about somewhere today. I did not realize McNabb's numbers were as good as they are. Both have to be in the discussion for HOF. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-13-2009, 02:29 PM	#6
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 39 Posts: 5,688	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame i dont think mcnabb is HOF at all. __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

01-13-2009, 02:34 PM	#7
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I would say Warner for sure. He has thrown for 300+ yards in over 45% of his starts. That's amazing. The next closest player is Dan Fouts at 28%. Plus he has a Super Bowl ring and an MVP. McNabb is getting close I think. He's steadily been a winner in his career, but he's 1-3 in NFC Championship Games, and has never won a Super Bowl or MVP. If I had to vote today, I would say Warner yes, McNabb no. __________________ Tardy

01-13-2009, 02:43 PM	#8
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 39 Posts: 5,688	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame ^ co-sign __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

01-13-2009, 02:46 PM	#9
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame Another ring for Warner with the season he's had and I would say he's pretty damn close to being a lock, a few years ago I would have said no way. Let's look at his career numbers: 28,591 passing yards, 182 TDs, 114 INTs, 93.8 rating, 3 seasons with over 4,000 yards, 4 seasons with at least 27 TDs, 65.4 career completion %. He's certainly got some good numbers. With McNabb you've gotta figure he probably has at least 5 more years as a starter. Add a ring to that and he probably will be a Hall of Famer when all is said and done. Some of his career highlights: 29,320 passing yards, 194 TDs, 90 INTs, 5 seasons over the 3,000 yard mark, 4 seasons with at least 21 TDs, and even though he doesn't run like he used to he still has 3,109 yards rushing and 26 TDs over his career. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-13-2009, 02:52 PM	#10
Dblock804 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Richmond Posts: 143	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame For whatever reason I have enjoyed watching DM play and still dislike the eagles. Yes to both.

01-13-2009, 02:53 PM	#11
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame Warner should make it to the HOF on his story alone. His rags to riches NFL story couldn't be better. I don't see why he wouldn't since he has a super bowl ring in tow. McNabb has to win if he wants in. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________ Last edited by Skinny Tee; 01-13-2009 at 02:59 PM.

01-13-2009, 02:54 PM	#12
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 46 Posts: 5,829	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame I say yes to both. Yes to Warner because of his SB appearances Yes to McNabb because he has only had a No. 1 reciever once in his career and has still managed to put up the numbers that he has. Outside of Westbrook, he has never had another weapon on the offense. That is HOF worthy if you ask me. This does not change nor dilute my hatred towards McNabb, I just gotta give credit where credit is due.

01-13-2009, 02:58 PM	#13
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 39 Posts: 5,688	Re: McNabb, Warner, and the Hall of Fame mcnabb is not marino. __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

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