Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13

PennSkinsFan · 03-11-2009, 03:18 PM

http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/03/nfl-draft-mockery-matt-stafford-still-projected-1.html

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As for the Washington Redskins at #13, the leader remains for the second straight update OT Andre Smith.. In fact, Smith jumped 9% and now commands 39% of the 114 mock drafts updated in March projecting him to the Redskins.

SFREDSKIN · 03-11-2009, 03:20 PM

Yeah and his stock is falling due to bad showing at his Pro-day.

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Early signs for Alabama’s Smith not promising «

Dirtbag59 · 03-11-2009, 03:31 PM

Somethings wrong, I mean 19 reps? I guess he really is a football player though I wonder if we draft him should he fall to us after a trade down. i mean right now it's suggested that six tackles could go in the first round this year and that includes Eben Britton and James Merideth on the back end so it's not like he'll slide to the second round. Still you got to wonder I mean Vinny wasn't scared off by Kelly's (and possibly Davis's) workout performances so you never know.

That Guy · 03-11-2009, 03:41 PM

bad pro day numbers. 19 reps? 5.3 aint great either, but it's less important.

That Guy · 03-11-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Somethings wrong, I mean 19 reps? I guess he really is a football player though I wonder if we draft him should he fall to us after a trade down. i mean right now it's suggested that six tackles could go in the first round this year and that includes Eben Britton and James Merideth on the back end so it's not like he'll slide to the second round. Still you got to wonder I mean Vinny wasn't scared off by Kelly's (and possibly Davis's) workout performances so you never know.

and how's that worked out?

yeah yeah, 3 years, i know. i'm hoping for signs of life too.

SFREDSKIN · 03-11-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Somethings wrong, I mean 19 reps? I guess he really is a football player though I wonder if we draft him should he fall to us after a trade down. i mean right now it's suggested that six tackles could go in the first round this year and that includes Eben Britton and James Merideth on the back end so it's not like he'll slide to the second round. Still you got to wonder I mean Vinny wasn't scared off by Kelly's (and possibly Davis's) workout performances so you never know.

After the out of shape Thomas and Kelly drama last year, Vinny should be smart enough to stay away from this guy. He'll probably fall to the 2nd round at this stage. I say Draft Mack, a sure bet of a player.

GTripp0012 · 03-11-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

bad pro day numbers. 19 reps? 5.3 aint great either, but it's less important.

Reps are worthless as a combine tool though, because blocking is all footwork, balance and hand placement anyway.

We look at nineteen reps and say "whoa, he's not nearly as strong as other guys" but anyone who can put up 225 12 times or more is plenty strong to play in the NFL. He's still in the top 0.3% of males at his age, obviously.

If he does fail in the NFL, it will be for other reasons. Perhaps his relative bench totals and 40 time are indicative of a bigger problem, but there's no correlation between combine (or pro day) bench reps and NFL success anyway, so I'd say the kids stock probably shouldn't fall any because of this.

If anything, this validates his story at the combine about not wanting to work out, and was probably a good business decision in the long run. Had he put up a 14 spot at the combine, he might have dropped out of the first round. Now, he's still going to be the third or fourth tackle taken.

Of course, reason #1 why the draft process is good: some team would have taken this guy with the first or second overall pick after the season ended.

SmootSmack · 03-11-2009, 04:35 PM

I think Chris Samuels only did 19 (or fewer) reps at his pro day as well

Zerohero · 03-11-2009, 04:37 PM

Imagine the hilarity of NBA players losing stock in drafts because of low situp totals and slow suicide sprint times.

Daseal · 03-11-2009, 04:38 PM

The fact that he showed up out of shape to the combine is reason enough for me to say no thanks. We need players that WANT to play and be their best.

SS -- Does your sig mean you want that future bust LB from Ohio State? =p

SmootSmack · 03-11-2009, 04:42 PM

It means he's someone I'd consider as a weakside linebacker if we had a later pick in the draft, but I'm continously changing that...later today I'm updating to a new player

(For the record, at 13 I want either Oher or Andre Smith and I probably won't waver from that.)

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-11-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It means he's someone I'd consider as a weakside linebacker if we had a later pick in the draft, but I'm continously changing that...later today I'm updating to a new player

(For the record, at 13 I want either Oher or Andre Smith and I probably won't waver from that.)

Smith had a horrible performance at the alabama pro-day today. He's been off my list for guys id take at 13 for a while and hes dropped even further down it now. id considering him below 25, but it would depend on who else was there.

Right now, if we stay at 13, my votes for Oher or Maualuga. I think Oher can be a franchise LT and Maualuga could be the next Ray Lewis. Both would make it hard for me chose to trade down if they were there at 13.

53Fan · 03-11-2009, 05:00 PM

At #13 I'd still take Alex Mack. Various scouting reports have said the following: " The best o-lineman in the draft PERIOD." * " Reportedly the only lineman who could contain B.J. Raji on the first day of practice at the Senior Bowl." * " Drove Raji off the line." * " Could play any position on the line except LT." * " The only center in years who deserves to be taken in the first round." Keep Heyer at RT. He could very well work out, if not, draft a LT next year. In the meantime you've gotten the best center prospect to come along in years. You have a player who can play multiple positions. You have improved your o-line this year. LB or DE in the third.

SFREDSKIN · 03-11-2009, 05:10 PM

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At #13 I'd still take Alex Mack. Various scouting reports have said the following: " The best o-lineman in the draft PERIOD." * " Reportedly the only lineman who could contain B.J. Raji on the first day of practice at the Senior Bowl." * " Drove Raji off the line." * " Could play any position on the line except LT." * " The only center in years who deserves to be taken in the first round." Keep Heyer at RT. He could very well work out, if not, draft a LT next year. In the meantime you've gotten the best center prospect to come along in years. You have a player who can play multiple positions. You have improved your o-line this year. LB or DE in the third.

1000% in agreement!! Smith is going to be a bust Oher, moher has potential but could take time. Mack you just plug into your lineup and watch him contain Ratliff, Patterson, Bunkley, Fred Robbins and Barry Coffield, all our NFC East inside linemen.

Nflnick11 · 03-11-2009, 05:14 PM

I'll still take smith, it's not about your performance on the combine, it's about how you perform on the field which smith is really good at, I'll also take maualuga and Oher...and for all you fans of getting a center, especially mack, don't expect us to get one, because I heard or saw somewhere that Vinny thinks rabach is fine and that we have worse needs at tackle, plus he's well awhere that rabach is one of our younger lineman...our problem is at RT and RG, at the moment... And oher and smith can play both those positions...

03-11-2009, 03:20 PM	#2
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03-11-2009, 03:31 PM	#3
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13 Somethings wrong, I mean 19 reps? I guess he really is a football player though I wonder if we draft him should he fall to us after a trade down. i mean right now it's suggested that six tackles could go in the first round this year and that includes Eben Britton and James Merideth on the back end so it's not like he'll slide to the second round. Still you got to wonder I mean Vinny wasn't scared off by Kelly's (and possibly Davis's) workout performances so you never know. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

03-11-2009, 03:41 PM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13 bad pro day numbers. 19 reps? 5.3 aint great either, but it's less important.

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13 I think Chris Samuels only did 19 (or fewer) reps at his pro day as well __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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Zerohero Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: phoenix, az Age: 46 Posts: 901	Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13 Imagine the hilarity of NBA players losing stock in drafts because of low situp totals and slow suicide sprint times.

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Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13 The fact that he showed up out of shape to the combine is reason enough for me to say no thanks. We need players that WANT to play and be their best. SS -- Does your sig mean you want that future bust LB from Ohio State? =p __________________ Best. Player. Available.

03-11-2009, 04:42 PM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13 It means he's someone I'd consider as a weakside linebacker if we had a later pick in the draft, but I'm continously changing that...later today I'm updating to a new player (For the record, at 13 I want either Oher or Andre Smith and I probably won't waver from that.) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-11-2009, 05:00 PM	#13
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13 At #13 I'd still take Alex Mack. Various scouting reports have said the following: " The best o-lineman in the draft PERIOD." * " Reportedly the only lineman who could contain B.J. Raji on the first day of practice at the Senior Bowl." * " Drove Raji off the line." * " Could play any position on the line except LT." * " The only center in years who deserves to be taken in the first round." Keep Heyer at RT. He could very well work out, if not, draft a LT next year. In the meantime you've gotten the best center prospect to come along in years. You have a player who can play multiple positions. You have improved your o-line this year. LB or DE in the third. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

03-11-2009, 05:14 PM	#15
Nflnick11 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 432	Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13 I'll still take smith, it's not about your performance on the combine, it's about how you perform on the field which smith is really good at, I'll also take maualuga and Oher...and for all you fans of getting a center, especially mack, don't expect us to get one, because I heard or saw somewhere that Vinny thinks rabach is fine and that we have worse needs at tackle, plus he's well awhere that rabach is one of our younger lineman...our problem is at RT and RG, at the moment... And oher and smith can play both those positions...

Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13

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