Redskins Innovations

pagouras · 04-18-2009, 08:44 AM

I think that great NFL franchises like the Redskins, 49ers, Bears, etc are like great world civilizations such as the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans, etc in that they make contributions and innovations that not only advance themselves, but ultimately elevate and advance everyone else.

How have the great Redskins advanced football?

Off the top of my head I can think of two examples of great Redskin innovation:

1. Special Teams Coaching (George Allen was the first to have a separate coach devoted to Special Teams)

2. The Counter Trey (Gibbs era misdirection running play)

What are the other Redskin innovations?

Beemnseven · 04-18-2009, 08:55 AM

Wow. It's amazing the power one wields after reaching 10 posts.

pagouras · 04-18-2009, 09:23 AM

I just thought of what might be a 3rd innovation from the Skins..Redskins Park. I'm not 100% certain about this, but Redskins Park may have been the 1st total football complex devoted to an NFL team.

saden1 · 04-18-2009, 10:31 AM

It's a copy cat league...we've done somethings worth copying and we've copied some other folks.

SBXVII · 04-18-2009, 11:11 AM

I'll play along nicely....how about Gibbs and his two tight end sets. His developing the Half back....I think.

SFREDSKIN · 04-18-2009, 11:13 AM

Most consecutive sellouts
Fiirst Black QB to win SB
Only team with a marching band

SBXVII · 04-18-2009, 11:15 AM

Here ya go from Wiki:

Gibbs is credited with inventing the single back, double or triple tight end set. He used it to neutralize Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor, realizing that to successfully block him with a running back was impossible; an extra tight end and a tackle were required. The extra tight end provided additional protection for the quarterback. Gibbs was also credited for creating the Trips formation; stacking three wide receivers to one side. Gibbs incorporated the shifting and motions for which his offenses were known for. The formations created mismatches and confusion for the opposing defenses that would then be exploited. He is also one of few coaches that utilized the H-back position prominently in his offense.

Zerohero · 04-18-2009, 12:37 PM

Sammy Baugh wasn't the first to make a forward pass but he is credited for making it an integral part of an offensive gameplan. Semi quoted from wiki.

Stacks42 · 04-18-2009, 01:14 PM

First Raging alcoholic running back to drink in a shed with his offensive lineman

SFREDSKIN · 04-18-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

First Raging alcoholic running back to drink in a shed with his offensive lineman

And under the table with a Supreme court justice. "Sandy baby! Loosen up! you are too tight".

CRedskinsRule · 04-18-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

First Raging alcoholic running back to drink in a shed with his offensive lineman

and with a Supreme Court Justice.

AnimateYYZ · 04-18-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Wow. It's amazing the power one wields after reaching 10 posts.

Wow. It's amazing how pretentious some posters are. What is this some turned-based RPG? Do we need to gain experience and more hit points to start a thread? Stop treating a public message board like some esoteric, exclusive net-nerd club. This is a good thread, and the "noob" poster shouldn't be disparaged for it.

Lotus · 04-18-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerohero

Sammy Baugh wasn't the first to make a forward pass but he is credited for making it an integral part of an offensive gameplan. Semi quoted from wiki.

Yeah, I'd put this #1. The NFL is a passing league and it all really started with Sammy Baugh, the greatest Redskin of all time IMO. Waterfield, Graham, and other early great passers were copy-catting Baugh.

Redskin Jim · 04-18-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimateYYZ

Wow. It's amazing how pretentious some posters are. What is this some turned-based RPG? Do we need to gain experience and more hit points to start a thread? Stop treating a public message board like some esoteric, exclusive net-nerd club. This is a good thread, and the "noob" poster shouldn't be disparaged for it.

LOL!!! The Masters of the Redskin blogging universe may come back and smite you for that statement....

BleedBurgundy · 04-18-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimateYYZ

Wow. It's amazing how pretentious some posters are. What is this some turned-based RPG? Do we need to gain experience and more hit points to start a thread? Stop treating a public message board like some esoteric, exclusive net-nerd club. This is a good thread, and the "noob" poster shouldn't be disparaged for it.

That's kinda the norm around here. But very good point.

04-18-2009, 08:55 AM	#2
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Redskins Innovations Wow. It's amazing the power one wields after reaching 10 posts.

04-18-2009, 09:23 AM	#3
pagouras Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15	Re: Redskins Innovations I just thought of what might be a 3rd innovation from the Skins..Redskins Park. I'm not 100% certain about this, but Redskins Park may have been the 1st total football complex devoted to an NFL team. __________________ "I'm bored, I'm broke and I'm back" - John Riggins

04-18-2009, 10:31 AM	#4
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Redskins Innovations It's a copy cat league...we've done somethings worth copying and we've copied some other folks. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

04-18-2009, 11:11 AM	#5
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Redskins Innovations I'll play along nicely....how about Gibbs and his two tight end sets. His developing the Half back....I think.

04-18-2009, 11:13 AM	#6
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Redskins Innovations Most consecutive sellouts Fiirst Black QB to win SB Only team with a marching band __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

04-18-2009, 08:44 AM	#1
pagouras Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15	Redskins Innovations I think that great NFL franchises like the Redskins, 49ers, Bears, etc are like great world civilizations such as the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans, etc in that they make contributions and innovations that not only advance themselves, but ultimately elevate and advance everyone else. How have the great Redskins advanced football? Off the top of my head I can think of two examples of great Redskin innovation: 1. Special Teams Coaching (George Allen was the first to have a separate coach devoted to Special Teams) 2. The Counter Trey (Gibbs era misdirection running play) What are the other Redskin innovations? __________________ "I'm bored, I'm broke and I'm back" - John Riggins

04-18-2009, 11:15 AM	#7
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Redskins Innovations Here ya go from Wiki: Gibbs is credited with inventing the single back, double or triple tight end set. He used it to neutralize Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor, realizing that to successfully block him with a running back was impossible; an extra tight end and a tackle were required. The extra tight end provided additional protection for the quarterback. Gibbs was also credited for creating the Trips formation; stacking three wide receivers to one side. Gibbs incorporated the shifting and motions for which his offenses were known for. The formations created mismatches and confusion for the opposing defenses that would then be exploited. He is also one of few coaches that utilized the H-back position prominently in his offense.

04-18-2009, 12:37 PM	#8
Zerohero Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: phoenix, az Age: 46 Posts: 901	Re: Redskins Innovations Sammy Baugh wasn't the first to make a forward pass but he is credited for making it an integral part of an offensive gameplan. Semi quoted from wiki.

04-18-2009, 01:14 PM	#9
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 835	Re: Redskins Innovations First Raging alcoholic running back to drink in a shed with his offensive lineman __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

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