The Officiating Sucks!!!!!

dragontat7169 · 09-28-2004, 01:46 AM

I'm sorry about the title..but it is true. In both of the Skins Home games, the officiating has been horrible. In the first game, it wasn't so bad because it didn't change the outcome of the game. However, in this one, it was quite a different story. First of all, the defensive pass interference call that actually should have been a NO Call or Offensive pass interference which resulted in a first and goal on the 1 yard line for the Dallas. And of course the NO Call Defensive interference that should have been called which would of at least giving the Skins a chance for at least 3 points from 1st and Goal on the one. That is a 14 point swing of BOGUS Calls and NO Calls by the officials. I don't see how the NFL can pay these guys the kind of money they do to call games. I think they should be fined for BAD CALLS. They are allowing officials to decide games by the calls and I think they should let the players decide the games instead.

I'm sorry, but that was the worst game of officiating I have seen in a long time. To blow 2 calls that were so obvious to everyone but the officials. I just can't believe it.

Sorry for the rant, but no one else will listen.

Other than that, I take my hat off to the Skins who played their hearts out. And once again the Defense came through when they needed too. Just not quite good enough on the offensive side, but they were much improved from the 1st half to the 2nd.

Even though they lost a tough one that they shouldn't have..they have definitely improved. Good job on the coaching staff on making a 100% turn-a-round from last weeks 7 turnover game to none. They just need to work on protecting Brunell a little better. 5 sacks (I think it was) was not a very good showing. But all in all, a very good game.

GO SKINS

MTK · 09-28-2004, 01:54 AM

I'm still shaking my head over how a player can get shoved to the ground and be called for PI

dragontat7169 · 09-28-2004, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm still shaking my head over how a player can get shoved to the ground and be called for PI

I agree 100%. But what can we do? I wish there was a way we could really be heard. The NFL definitely needs to step up and do something when calls are blown. They need to get some younger officials out there that can actually keep up with players. One of the officials fell down yesterday in the Green Bay game possibly blowing a PI call..even though it would have been close, but both of the officials could have talked about it instead of only one being the determining factor. Isn't it kindof ironic that most of the officials are retired from some other type of job like lawyers and doctors and such..or at least they used to be. Not sure anymore..it's been a while since I checked into that.

That Guy · 09-28-2004, 02:04 AM

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I think they should be fined for BAD CALLS.

they do, and they limit bad crews chances at higher paying, bigger events (like monday night and playoff games)...

CrazyCanuck · 09-28-2004, 02:06 AM

I don't know why they don't use replay on interference calls.

THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAYS IN THE GAME!

You can challenge other subjective calls, I don't understand why pass interference should be any different.

jrocx69 · 09-28-2004, 02:07 AM

25-14 skins if those PI calls were right. im not much for saying "refs blow games" but those two were a huge difference in the game. the harris call was total bs and that was either 3rd and forver or 4th down and just out of FG range if im not mistaken. then the non call on gardner was a definate touchdown with a 1st and goal or just a simple over the shoulder catch. 25-14 !!!

MTK · 09-28-2004, 02:07 AM

Does anyone really know the logic behind calls you can challenge and those you can't?

Please explain, I'd really love to know.

jrocx69 · 09-28-2004, 02:11 AM

you cant ever challenge a "judgement call" or after the whistle. but you can challenge spots of balls and whether or not a guy was down etc. but you cant challenge a flagged play. they are judgment calls

dragontat7169 · 09-28-2004, 02:16 AM

The reason why instant replay isn't used for penalties has something to do with the human error being apart of the game except when it comes to spotting the actual position of the ball, which also means whether catches are made or whether the ball crosses the goal line. I can see where it would be a good idea to review PI calls but then they would want to review all penalties. I guess that is why it really isn't allowed.

As far as officials being fined. I had heard that it may happen, but didn't know if it actually did. But if that is the case then shouldn't Monday Nite FB have one of the best officiating crews? If that is the case..they sure didn't look like it.

That Guy · 09-28-2004, 02:16 AM

umm... uhhh...

Luxorreb · 09-28-2004, 05:19 AM

I was at the game tonight and it was a horrible display of the NFL. Refs were friggin' terrible. No excuse for that PI call on Harris. No excuse not calling the one on guy covering Coles. Otherwise we shoulda won this game. You punch it in on 1st and Goal from the 1 and we win. Or Sellers knows where to line up and we don't waste a TO on him. Get off the weed Sellers!

Luxorreb · 09-28-2004, 05:55 AM

Wilbon agrees:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep28.html

MTK · 09-28-2004, 09:39 AM

I was staring at my TV in total disbelief when the score was 7-0, I was like I can't believe the refs just gave the Cowboys 7 points. Let's face it, that's what happened, the cowboys were gift wrapped a TD. One of the all-time worst calls I've seen in my life, make that two. First Harris gets tossed to the ground yet somehow he interfered, then Rod gets his jersey ripped off his shoulder and there's no call.

I'm not one to resort to blaming the referees for a loss, because there are always other circumstances that play in, but last night I really feel that the Skins were ripped off. The refs played a HUGE role in that game.

Bergman14 · 09-28-2004, 09:46 AM

Can someone explain something to me? What is this other pass interference you are talking about? Was it Gardner in the endzone when it wasnt called? Because if it was that wasnt clear cut, they only call that about 40 percent of the time. That being said the 3rd and 7 pass interference for Dallas was horrendous. In the ref's defense without instant reply it might have been difficult to see, but it just sucks to have a game lost with that hanging over.

slingin_sam · 09-28-2004, 09:47 AM

The NFL really needs to do something about this. I am so tired of seeing games decided by the officials rather than by the teams themselves. I agree completely that it was a two-score swing with the lousy PI call against the Skins and then the no-call later on.
The NFL has made the decision that they will use the replay technology...well then use it! All this nonsense about a certain number of challenges per half and losing timeouts is ridiculous. Have an official in the booth, if a call is missed, stop the game and correct it. If you aren't willing to do that, then DON'T use the technology at all and be like baseball where the "human-error" element is apparent and embraced.

09-28-2004, 01:46 AM	#1
dragontat7169 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 92	The Officiating Sucks!!!!! I'm sorry about the title..but it is true. In both of the Skins Home games, the officiating has been horrible. In the first game, it wasn't so bad because it didn't change the outcome of the game. However, in this one, it was quite a different story. First of all, the defensive pass interference call that actually should have been a NO Call or Offensive pass interference which resulted in a first and goal on the 1 yard line for the Dallas. And of course the NO Call Defensive interference that should have been called which would of at least giving the Skins a chance for at least 3 points from 1st and Goal on the one. That is a 14 point swing of BOGUS Calls and NO Calls by the officials. I don't see how the NFL can pay these guys the kind of money they do to call games. I think they should be fined for BAD CALLS. They are allowing officials to decide games by the calls and I think they should let the players decide the games instead. I'm sorry, but that was the worst game of officiating I have seen in a long time. To blow 2 calls that were so obvious to everyone but the officials. I just can't believe it. Sorry for the rant, but no one else will listen. Other than that, I take my hat off to the Skins who played their hearts out. And once again the Defense came through when they needed too. Just not quite good enough on the offensive side, but they were much improved from the 1st half to the 2nd. Even though they lost a tough one that they shouldn't have..they have definitely improved. Good job on the coaching staff on making a 100% turn-a-round from last weeks 7 turnover game to none. They just need to work on protecting Brunell a little better. 5 sacks (I think it was) was not a very good showing. But all in all, a very good game. GO SKINS

09-28-2004, 05:19 AM	#11
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	I was at the game tonight and it was a horrible display of the NFL. Refs were friggin' terrible. No excuse for that PI call on Harris. No excuse not calling the one on guy covering Coles. Otherwise we shoulda won this game. You punch it in on 1st and Goal from the 1 and we win. Or Sellers knows where to line up and we don't waste a TO on him. Get off the weed Sellers! __________________ ^21^

09-28-2004, 05:55 AM	#12
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Wilbon agrees: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep28.html __________________ ^21^

09-28-2004, 01:54 AM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	I'm still shaking my head over how a player can get shoved to the ground and be called for PI

09-28-2004, 02:06 AM	#5
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	I don't know why they don't use replay on interference calls. THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAYS IN THE GAME! You can challenge other subjective calls, I don't understand why pass interference should be any different.

09-28-2004, 02:07 AM	#6
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	25-14 skins if those PI calls were right. im not much for saying "refs blow games" but those two were a huge difference in the game. the harris call was total bs and that was either 3rd and forver or 4th down and just out of FG range if im not mistaken. then the non call on gardner was a definate touchdown with a 1st and goal or just a simple over the shoulder catch. 25-14 !!!

09-28-2004, 02:11 AM	#8
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	you cant ever challenge a "judgement call" or after the whistle. but you can challenge spots of balls and whether or not a guy was down etc. but you cant challenge a flagged play. they are judgment calls

09-28-2004, 02:16 AM	#9
dragontat7169 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 92	The reason why instant replay isn't used for penalties has something to do with the human error being apart of the game except when it comes to spotting the actual position of the ball, which also means whether catches are made or whether the ball crosses the goal line. I can see where it would be a good idea to review PI calls but then they would want to review all penalties. I guess that is why it really isn't allowed. As far as officials being fined. I had heard that it may happen, but didn't know if it actually did. But if that is the case then shouldn't Monday Nite FB have one of the best officiating crews? If that is the case..they sure didn't look like it.

09-28-2004, 02:16 AM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	umm... uhhh...

09-28-2004, 09:39 AM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	I was staring at my TV in total disbelief when the score was 7-0, I was like I can't believe the refs just gave the Cowboys 7 points. Let's face it, that's what happened, the cowboys were gift wrapped a TD. One of the all-time worst calls I've seen in my life, make that two. First Harris gets tossed to the ground yet somehow he interfered, then Rod gets his jersey ripped off his shoulder and there's no call. I'm not one to resort to blaming the referees for a loss, because there are always other circumstances that play in, but last night I really feel that the Skins were ripped off. The refs played a HUGE role in that game.

09-28-2004, 09:46 AM	#14
Bergman14 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Winston-Salem Age: 41 Posts: 138	Can someone explain something to me? What is this other pass interference you are talking about? Was it Gardner in the endzone when it wasnt called? Because if it was that wasnt clear cut, they only call that about 40 percent of the time. That being said the 3rd and 7 pass interference for Dallas was horrendous. In the ref's defense without instant reply it might have been difficult to see, but it just sucks to have a game lost with that hanging over.

09-28-2004, 09:47 AM	#15
slingin_sam Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6	The NFL really needs to do something about this. I am so tired of seeing games decided by the officials rather than by the teams themselves. I agree completely that it was a two-score swing with the lousy PI call against the Skins and then the no-call later on. The NFL has made the decision that they will use the replay technology...well then use it! All this nonsense about a certain number of challenges per half and losing timeouts is ridiculous. Have an official in the booth, if a call is missed, stop the game and correct it. If you aren't willing to do that, then DON'T use the technology at all and be like baseball where the "human-error" element is apparent and embraced.

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