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Old 10-04-2004, 01:51 PM   #1
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Strategy?????????

Why are we in a no huddle offense, trying to audible every play, when the player's are all still unfamiliar with what their supposed to be doing, when we are playing an away game? I think that was a big mistake, Gibb's was being a little to cute for his own good on that one.
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:22 PM   #2
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It keeps teams from making situational substituions and it alters the pace of the game. It may have been part of the simplifying idea this week. I don't know, I guess they were trying to shake things up. I don't recall it hurting us. Also, it gets us to the line quicker so you don't burn up the playclock.
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:34 PM   #3
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I don't like it either. I think it is just causing our guys to be confused and make foolish penalties. However, I am not at the criticise Joe Gibbs stage yet and i don't know that I ever will be. He knows what he is doing. It's just going to take time. I know you can't always pin things on one person, but I firmly believe this team would be 3-1 without Portis's fumbles. All other mistakes as they were we still would have beaten NY & Cleveland without his costly fumbles that alwasy seem to happen at the worst time.
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:38 PM   #4
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I believe the reason is excellent. To keep the crowd from getting into the game. The sound system and PA anouncer at the game did not have a chance to artifically pump up the crowd. The no huddle took tahat completly away.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:17 PM   #5
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I think that the no huddle offense was working pretty well at the beginning of the game, but later on there were a few problems with it which probably have to be dealt with. I think that the headphone malfunction may have had something to do with it, but I think that will be something that the coaches have to review. However, I think the no huddle offense really had the defense on their feet at the beginning of the game and the Redskins made some nice drives, they just weren't able to finish them.

I wish I could see tape of the game...do any of you know of any way to get that? (other than just recording the game on tv that is)

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Old 10-04-2004, 03:25 PM   #6
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Call a play. Run it. Enough with all the shifts already! Defenses aren't shaking in their boots when we do because we're doing the same thing we did for the past couple of weeks! We need a new offensive coordinator. We have a conservative offense. And there's nothing wrong with that. But we need not be so predictable. Also, I would like to see Brunell take 'charge' of the offense in certain situations. When will some one step up and take command of what's going on offense? We have a few guys on defense who do just that.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:32 PM   #7
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Call a play. Run it. Enough with all the shifts already! Defenses aren't shaking in their boots when we do because we're doing the same thing we did for the past couple of weeks! We need a new offensive coordinator. We have a conservative offense. And there's nothing wrong with that. But we need not be so predictable. Also, I would like to see Brunell take 'charge' of the offense in certain situations. When will some one step up and take command of what's going on offense? We have a few guys on defense who do just that.
that offensive coordinator you're talking about is Gibbs and Breux. not gonna happen.

if what Portis was saying after the game is true though, then we are being too predictable. maybe we should chill on the counter-treys and just do some counters. instead of hitches and comebacks, some more slants and posts. i don't know, something. it's broke right now. someone FIX IT.



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Old 10-04-2004, 03:55 PM   #8
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offis, I agree with you. I was on the edge of my seat every time I saw Brunell attempting to call the play at the line. At times, it very much appeared that not all of the offensive players knew what the play was. Since we are still trying to get over making the silly mistakes, I think this strategy was ill-advised.

I just don't see doing something like this at an away game. They even did it near the goal lines, where the crowd noise is the highest.
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Old 10-04-2004, 04:24 PM   #9
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Call a play. Run it. Enough with all the shifts already! Defenses aren't shaking in their boots when we do because we're doing the same thing we did for the past couple of weeks! We need a new offensive coordinator. We have a conservative offense. And there's nothing wrong with that. But we need not be so predictable. Also, I would like to see Brunell take 'charge' of the offense in certain situations. When will some one step up and take command of what's going on offense? We have a few guys on defense who do just that.
Sorry, but this is the 2nd place I have read you advocate for a new Off. Coordinator and all I have to say is - YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!
Who would you hire to replace Gibbs as a strategist?

The shifting serves a purpose - In part to determine what the defensive assignments are. For example: If the WR splits out and is followed by a CB, chances are it's a man defense. This, in turn, gives the QB, RB and HB their reads.

The general strategy and play calling have been fine (actually quite good - nice mix of run/pass, taking shots downfield and mixing in crossing and deep hooks w/ enough short stuff to keep people honest).

As for someone stepping up, someone will as soon as the players get more familiar with the schemes. I get the feeling that right now everyone is just focusing on making sure they get their assignments right and (b/c of snafus) making sure they stay on sides, don't fumble, get the play called in time, catch the ball, etc. Soon enough, an offensive leader or two will emerge.

I am deeply frustrated by the losses so far. I am one of those who let my expectations get ahead of me, but, as so many have pointed out in other threads, this has been a bad, undisciplined, "me-first" team since the Norv era. It takes some time to weed out the crap and instill some real team pride. Gibbs will be fine. His playcalling will be fine. He will find the players who will work for him and the offense will gell.

When will all this happen? Sometime this year I hope. It would be great to make the playoffs - but it may not happen.

Patience. All will be well.
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Old 10-04-2004, 04:30 PM   #10
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Sorry, but this is the 2nd place I have read you advocate for a new Off. Coordinator and all I have to say is - YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!
Who would you hire to replace Gibbs as a strategist?

The shifting serves a purpose - In part to determine what the defensive assignments are. For example: If the WR splits out and is followed by a CB, chances are it's a man defense. This, in turn, gives the QB, RB and HB their reads.

The general strategy and play calling have been fine (actually quite good - nice mix of run/pass, taking shots downfield and mixing in crossing and deep hooks w/ enough short stuff to keep people honest).

As for someone stepping up, someone will as soon as the players get more familiar with the schemes. I get the feeling that right now everyone is just focusing on making sure they get their assignments right and (b/c of snafus) making sure they stay on sides, don't fumble, get the play called in time, catch the ball, etc. Soon enough, an offensive leader or two will emerge.

I am deeply frustrated by the losses so far. I am one of those who let my expectations get ahead of me, but, as so many have pointed out in other threads, this has been a bad, undisciplined, "me-first" team since the Norv era. It takes some time to weed out the crap and instill some real team pride. Gibbs will be fine. His playcalling will be fine. He will find the players who will work for him and the offense will gell.

When will all this happen? Sometime this year I hope. It would be great to make the playoffs - but it may not happen.

Patience. All will be well.
Great post JoeRedskin.
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:13 PM   #11
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If we need a new offensive coordinator we might as well can Gibbs now and start over.

Gibbs is without question one of the brightest offensive minds to have coached in the NFL, there is not debating this.

His system works, offenses all over the league have bits and pieces of his system in place. It's a system that took this team to the Super Bowl 4 times in 10 years.

It will work, give it time.
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Old 10-05-2004, 02:14 AM   #12
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I believe the reason is excellent. To keep the crowd from getting into the game. The sound system and PA anouncer at the game did not have a chance to artifically pump up the crowd. The no huddle took tahat completly away.
What game were you watching? Every time brunell started running around calling, or changing the play, the crowd went nut's, it's a much tougher way to run the offense on the road, especially when we are working to get everyone on the same page, How many hear were screaming last year when SS was doing it?
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Old 10-05-2004, 08:45 AM   #13
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What stats are you looking at?
Skins offense faired better on less times in hurry up than on the rest of the game!
I said it before. If you doubt Gibbs you doubt being a Redskins fan. Gibbs has coached some good games so far. Been outta the league 11 yrs and we've only lost by a total of 13 pts in 3 losses. Fumbles and INT's are too blame not Gibbs. How can we blame Gibbs for 7 TO's vs. Gmen? We had chances to win in the 4th even w/ 7 friggin TO's!
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Find another bandwagon to join cause this guy will be at the game Sunday night losing his voice! If ya don't believe don't pretend and join the Patriots website. They've got an 18 game streak!
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PS- on Cowboys loss if not blaming the refs blame the refs!
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