Gameplan/Predictions: Bears v Skins

MTK · 10-14-2004, 09:26 AM

I guess not posting predictions and gameplans didn't change our luck any, so post away. I decided to combine the two since they kind of go hand in hand.

Redskins_P · 10-14-2004, 09:43 AM

I'm not predicting anything, but I will say what I think our gameplan should be.

I think we need to open the offense up a little more. More 3 WRs sets and possibly 4. I also think it's time for trick play like a reverse or flee flicker. Those types of plays can provide a spark for the offense. By opening up the offense we can run some draws, traps, and delays to Portis. Maybe a screen pass to Portis or Morton. We just need to make some big plays. No more conservative running and passing.

On defense it's quite simple. Don't let Thomas Jones run all over us, and make that Quinn guy beat us by blitzing and putting 8 at the line. They do have some talent at WR, but I think our secondary can handle them. If Lavar plays use him on 3rd down for pass rushing, and I think this could be a breakout game for Taylor.

Special teams needs to step up. I would like to see Morton break one to put us in good field position.

Last but not least....eliminate the turnovers. Protect the QB. And no stupid penalties. Play smart sound football.

NY_Skinsfan · 10-14-2004, 11:21 AM

Last week we had 2 penalties for 22 yards...Let's try to keep that consistent. I agree with Redskins P's gameplan, but I really wish we were doing it with Ramsey rather than Brunell. I suppose I have to trust Gibbs though, after all he is Joe Gibbs.

x44x · 10-14-2004, 11:54 AM

lets throw the ball deep to keep those corners and safeties back, and then run the ball.

redwagonskins · 10-14-2004, 12:31 PM

The Bears O is a lot like the Ravens, a decent RB and not too much of a passing threat. Our D needs to just keep on keepin' on. If they play the way they played last week, we can hold the bears to 10 or less (perhaps a shutout).
Our O needs to get it together. With Urlacher in the middle, we need to be able to stretch the D with sweeps and screens. It would be nice to stretch the Bears vertically too but that may be hoping for too much. The key is to sustain some long drives to keep our D of the field and not give up points like every other game.
Hold on to the ball. Don't give up a score to the Bears D and let our D keep doing it's thing and we have a good shot.
Prediction
Skins 13 Bears 10

wbecker999 · 10-14-2004, 12:44 PM

Can anyone tell me who the offensive coordinator was when westbrook and connel
were having 1000 + yard seasons. Even Brad Johnson was good. What offensive coordinator was that?

redrock-skins · 10-14-2004, 01:08 PM

I'll just be at my local bar at 10am (PST) with my few fellow die-hard fans.
I do think we should win this one but win it ugly.

Redskins_P · 10-14-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbecker999

Can anyone tell me who the offensive coordinator was when westbrook and connel
were having 1000 + yard seasons. Even Brad Johnson was good. What offensive coordinator was that?

Norv Turner...I think

illdefined · 10-14-2004, 02:55 PM

it was good to see Cooley in the FB position last week leading for Portis from the I formation. its a small offensive change to suit Portis, and even though we didnt get many yards, (it was Baltimore, and Cooley is a catching TE), at least the fumbles stopped.

i think we should try a couple more things to suit Portis style. everyone forgets that his first big 64 yd run was him improvising and taking off AGAINST the direction of the play, NOT him waiting for his blockers and following the design of the play (which was a counter to begin with, i know, what can i say, Portis has got MOVES).

i'd like to see some more I formation, and more sweeps and tosses. not only would it surprise the defense coming from Gibbs, but it would also set up some nice space up the middle for surprise draws. face it guys, we don't have the line (yet) nor the beefy back for the power inside running game. Portis gave it his ALL, but we saw what happened and we're lucky he didnt get hurt. experiment over.

can someone PLEASE spare Coles playing in the middle??? thats supposed to be Gardner's job! he's more equipped to handle the hits. if Coles can't play the outside threats down the field cuz of injury, then put Jacobs in. we need speed to keep the safeties back and Brunell needs to learn how to @#$% LEAD a receiver.

sorry, guys im pissed by now. it all seems like common sense to me. of course Joe Gibbs knows more football in a fingernail clipping than 1000000 of me, but sound philosopy, discipline, and even flawless execution WON'T add 30lbs to Portis's frame NOR take away 6 years from Brunell's arm (nor bring Jansen back for that matter).

i'm getting a familiar sense from last year for frustrating lack of adjustment. now this is NOT Spurrier, who's college scheme was flawed in the NFL and wouldn't adjust, Gibbs schemes are foundation NFL - but we're running up against obvious personnel limits here and it needs to be worked around NOW before our players lose the DESIRE to execute..

Bozzy · 10-14-2004, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I guess not posting predictions and gameplans didn't change our luck any, so post away. I decided to combine the two since they kind of go hand in hand.

I have stuff to do/go to on Sunday...so I'm gonna try to NOT watch the game...maybe if I don't watch it, they'll win.

Bozzy · 10-14-2004, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Norv Turner...I think

So when Norv is fired by Al Davis...Gibbs oughta hire him to replace Don Breaux...lol

sportscurmudgeon · 10-14-2004, 04:03 PM

Redskins win a low scoring game. Defense does a lot of different things to shock and amaze Jonathon Quinn at QB. Offense keeps it simple and plays field position football.

Danger signal will be if the Bears' special teams start breaking off returns of punts. That is the single best way to lose a field position game.

Key item will be to keep penalties under control. If the Bears have to execute a lot of 2nd and 8 and/or 3rd and 8 situations, the Skins should be just fine. If we give them first downs, they can make one or two plays and win the game.

Bears' secondary is injured but the guys out there play hard on every play. Watched the Eagles beat the Bears and those guys never quit even though the Eagles marched up and down the field on them. I believe the Eagles had 450 yards of offense on the Bears and they probably only threw deep about twice because the Bears played Cover-2 on everything other than 3rd and inches. So this is a game for Gardner to be the posession receiver and hold onto about 6 or 7 passes for at least 5 first downs.

Prediction: Washington 20 Chicago 13

RedskinRat · 10-14-2004, 04:14 PM

I see us win in a landslide, but I also see the NHL getting their collective shit together before much longer. That's why I'm glad we have you here, Sports, you bring rational to the irrational.

SmootSmack · 10-14-2004, 05:36 PM

Well I just simulated the game on 2K5 and the Redskins won an ugly, ugly game. In the pouring rain they pulled it out 10-7. Brunell went 6-9 for 75 yards (can't get more real than that!) and Portis had 14 carries for 112 yards and 1 TD.

I don't think it will be that ugly. For one thing I'm not expecting a monsoon in Chicago on Sunday. I think the key is to make Quinn beat us and that means taking an early lead so they have to play catch up. It's time to open up that offensive and be more aggresive. Start the game with something like a reverse to Gardner, something like that

4TH RING · 10-14-2004, 09:48 PM

OFFENSE

I think Gibbs comes out throwing first and running second in order to keep their D honest. So I expect to see a lot of short & mid-range routes from our backs and recievers in order to get Brunell in a rythm early in the game. I think once we have some continuity, the holes start opening up for Portis and he goes for 100 yds. Also, Jacobs gets more balls thrown his way when he's in.

DEFENSE

I think we see more of the same. We make them beat us through the air, which I doubt they'll do. 4 sacks 2 int's and we keep Jones to under 80 yds.

Bottom line is I think Gibbs knows the importance of this game, going into the bye & coming off of 4 losses in a row he'll have them ready.

Portis scores, Cooley scores, and our D holds them to field goals.

REDSKINS 20

BEARS 9

10-14-2004, 09:26 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Gameplan/Predictions: Bears v Skins I guess not posting predictions and gameplans didn't change our luck any, so post away. I decided to combine the two since they kind of go hand in hand.

10-14-2004, 04:03 PM	#12
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Redskins win a low scoring game. Defense does a lot of different things to shock and amaze Jonathon Quinn at QB. Offense keeps it simple and plays field position football. Danger signal will be if the Bears' special teams start breaking off returns of punts. That is the single best way to lose a field position game. Key item will be to keep penalties under control. If the Bears have to execute a lot of 2nd and 8 and/or 3rd and 8 situations, the Skins should be just fine. If we give them first downs, they can make one or two plays and win the game. Bears' secondary is injured but the guys out there play hard on every play. Watched the Eagles beat the Bears and those guys never quit even though the Eagles marched up and down the field on them. I believe the Eagles had 450 yards of offense on the Bears and they probably only threw deep about twice because the Bears played Cover-2 on everything other than 3rd and inches. So this is a game for Gardner to be the posession receiver and hold onto about 6 or 7 passes for at least 5 first downs. Prediction: Washington 20 Chicago 13 __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

10-14-2004, 05:36 PM	#14
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Well I just simulated the game on 2K5 and the Redskins won an ugly, ugly game. In the pouring rain they pulled it out 10-7. Brunell went 6-9 for 75 yards (can't get more real than that!) and Portis had 14 carries for 112 yards and 1 TD. I don't think it will be that ugly. For one thing I'm not expecting a monsoon in Chicago on Sunday. I think the key is to make Quinn beat us and that means taking an early lead so they have to play catch up. It's time to open up that offensive and be more aggresive. Start the game with something like a reverse to Gardner, something like that __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-14-2004, 09:43 AM	#2
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	I'm not predicting anything, but I will say what I think our gameplan should be. I think we need to open the offense up a little more. More 3 WRs sets and possibly 4. I also think it's time for trick play like a reverse or flee flicker. Those types of plays can provide a spark for the offense. By opening up the offense we can run some draws, traps, and delays to Portis. Maybe a screen pass to Portis or Morton. We just need to make some big plays. No more conservative running and passing. On defense it's quite simple. Don't let Thomas Jones run all over us, and make that Quinn guy beat us by blitzing and putting 8 at the line. They do have some talent at WR, but I think our secondary can handle them. If Lavar plays use him on 3rd down for pass rushing, and I think this could be a breakout game for Taylor. Special teams needs to step up. I would like to see Morton break one to put us in good field position. Last but not least....eliminate the turnovers. Protect the QB. And no stupid penalties. Play smart sound football.

10-14-2004, 11:21 AM	#3
NY_Skinsfan Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Age: 51 Posts: 838	Last week we had 2 penalties for 22 yards...Let's try to keep that consistent. I agree with Redskins P's gameplan, but I really wish we were doing it with Ramsey rather than Brunell. I suppose I have to trust Gibbs though, after all he is Joe Gibbs.

10-14-2004, 11:54 AM	#4
x44x Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk Virginia Age: 49 Posts: 211	lets throw the ball deep to keep those corners and safeties back, and then run the ball.

10-14-2004, 12:31 PM	#5
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	The Bears O is a lot like the Ravens, a decent RB and not too much of a passing threat. Our D needs to just keep on keepin' on. If they play the way they played last week, we can hold the bears to 10 or less (perhaps a shutout). Our O needs to get it together. With Urlacher in the middle, we need to be able to stretch the D with sweeps and screens. It would be nice to stretch the Bears vertically too but that may be hoping for too much. The key is to sustain some long drives to keep our D of the field and not give up points like every other game. Hold on to the ball. Don't give up a score to the Bears D and let our D keep doing it's thing and we have a good shot. Prediction Skins 13 Bears 10

10-14-2004, 12:44 PM	#6
wbecker999 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Age: 49 Posts: 93	Can anyone tell me who the offensive coordinator was when westbrook and connel were having 1000 + yard seasons. Even Brad Johnson was good. What offensive coordinator was that?

10-14-2004, 01:08 PM	#7
redrock-skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 783	I'll just be at my local bar at 10am (PST) with my few fellow die-hard fans. I do think we should win this one but win it ugly.

10-14-2004, 02:55 PM	#9
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	it was good to see Cooley in the FB position last week leading for Portis from the I formation. its a small offensive change to suit Portis, and even though we didnt get many yards, (it was Baltimore, and Cooley is a catching TE), at least the fumbles stopped. i think we should try a couple more things to suit Portis style. everyone forgets that his first big 64 yd run was him improvising and taking off AGAINST the direction of the play, NOT him waiting for his blockers and following the design of the play (which was a counter to begin with, i know, what can i say, Portis has got MOVES). i'd like to see some more I formation, and more sweeps and tosses. not only would it surprise the defense coming from Gibbs, but it would also set up some nice space up the middle for surprise draws. face it guys, we don't have the line (yet) nor the beefy back for the power inside running game. Portis gave it his ALL, but we saw what happened and we're lucky he didnt get hurt. experiment over. can someone PLEASE spare Coles playing in the middle??? thats supposed to be Gardner's job! he's more equipped to handle the hits. if Coles can't play the outside threats down the field cuz of injury, then put Jacobs in. we need speed to keep the safeties back and Brunell needs to learn how to @#$% LEAD a receiver. sorry, guys im pissed by now. it all seems like common sense to me. of course Joe Gibbs knows more football in a fingernail clipping than 1000000 of me, but sound philosopy, discipline, and even flawless execution WON'T add 30lbs to Portis's frame NOR take away 6 years from Brunell's arm (nor bring Jansen back for that matter). i'm getting a familiar sense from last year for frustrating lack of adjustment. now this is NOT Spurrier, who's college scheme was flawed in the NFL and wouldn't adjust, Gibbs schemes are foundation NFL - but we're running up against obvious personnel limits here and it needs to be worked around NOW before our players lose the DESIRE to execute..

10-14-2004, 04:14 PM	#13
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	I see us win in a landslide, but I also see the NHL getting their collective shit together before much longer. That's why I'm glad we have you here, Sports, you bring rational to the irrational.

10-14-2004, 09:48 PM	#15
4TH RING Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 129	OFFENSE I think Gibbs comes out throwing first and running second in order to keep their D honest. So I expect to see a lot of short & mid-range routes from our backs and recievers in order to get Brunell in a rythm early in the game. I think once we have some continuity, the holes start opening up for Portis and he goes for 100 yds. Also, Jacobs gets more balls thrown his way when he's in. DEFENSE I think we see more of the same. We make them beat us through the air, which I doubt they'll do. 4 sacks 2 int's and we keep Jones to under 80 yds. Bottom line is I think Gibbs knows the importance of this game, going into the bye & coming off of 4 losses in a row he'll have them ready. Portis scores, Cooley scores, and our D holds them to field goals. REDSKINS 20 BEARS 9

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