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11-03-2009, 10:18 PM | #1 |
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Offense or Defense?
After watching last nights game vs ATL, I was thinking to myself... Is it better to have a top ranked Offense than it is a top ranked Defense?? It's a legitimate question in today's NFL. Look at WSH for an example.. Num 30th ranked Offense and a top 6 Defense yet 2-5 is this teams record... For my Saints, you have the top ranked offense in the league, but just an avg D.. 7-0 is our record.. So I would take the Offense over Defense any day..
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11-03-2009, 10:24 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
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11-03-2009, 10:32 PM | #3 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
While I'm too lazy to look them up I think the Saints stats on d are pretty legit dude...Williams has that unit playing extremely well even w/ major talent out of the starting line-up cuz of injury (Ellis and Fujita).
...so yeah both sides of the ball must be quality but hasn't history proven that since forever?
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11-03-2009, 10:37 PM | #4 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
Either. You just can't have one or the other ranked near the bottom of the league. If the Skins Offense was even a middle of the pack unit, their record would be much different. The Saints have had a high-powered Offense for years. They're legit this year, because their D is finally respectable (and opportunistic).
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11-03-2009, 10:39 PM | #5 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
In today's NFL, a great O will beat a great D most of the time. I would rather have a good offense than a defense. Nearly every year the rule changes benefit the offensive side of the ball. This isn't 2 yards and a cloud of dust anymore. This is a game where you need to be consistently scoring 21+ points or you have little to no shot to being a good team.
If I were building a team. Id build my D to be opportunistic and turnover happy, even if that costs big plays -- because Id spend a lot more time on me O.
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11-03-2009, 10:41 PM | #6 | |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
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11-03-2009, 10:43 PM | #7 | |
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11-03-2009, 10:45 PM | #8 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
@daseal, puppy kicker?
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11-03-2009, 10:49 PM | #9 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
When my uncle coached Ohio State he had potent offenses coupled with solid defenses. THe Buckeye defenses he had were not tops in yardage allowed, but they always were #1 in turnover ratio in the Big Ten, which in my mind is just as effective as being #1 in yardage allowed. His defenses were more bend but don't break types, but they were also good with the ppg as well as turnovers. But to answer you, you need both. Think of the old Denver Nuggets in the 80's- early 90's. They scored 120 easy, but played no D and lost more than they won. The Saints D is solid with athletic DBs.
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11-03-2009, 10:51 PM | #10 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
@wildcat seriously wasn't your logo eagles now i guess it's like 40 minutes ago, pretty sure it was, when you sign back in tho let me know who your team is that week
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11-03-2009, 11:09 PM | #11 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
A good defense will choke the life out of a good offense. Always has been, always will bee. See 2007 16-0 New England Patriots vs 10-6 New York Giants.
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11-04-2009, 12:00 AM | #12 | ||
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A good defense and a good running game are more important than having a high flying offense. Come playoff time a running game and a defense that shut down other teams will win championships. Epecially when the weather gets bad in December/Jan in cities like Pittsburgh, Philly, NY, and Chicago. Ask the most prolific passers of the past Dan Marino and Dan Fouts how many SB rings they have? None. Even the great John Elway did not win one until Suberbowl MVP Terrell Davis showed up. Peyton Manning finally won one on a rather pedestrian 247 yards passing one td and one interception. But Dominic Rhodes rushed 113 yards and J. Addai added 77 yards. It is better to be balanced. It is easy to get seduced by a high flying offense, but good ol fashioned smash mouth football will win more times than not. Ask Snyderato who rather draft WR's and TE rather then draft linemen. |
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11-04-2009, 12:55 AM | #13 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
Well defense does when championships, but thats assuming that the Defense has a decent offense on the other hand. Us being 30th doesn't help. Look at the Ravens offense on their superbowl team, a veteran QB who knows what he's doing, a decent OL that could protect him, and a good running game. We have none of those.
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11-04-2009, 01:22 AM | #14 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
no way D all the way baby
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11-04-2009, 01:40 AM | #15 |
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Re: Offense or Defense?
Gotta score to win. Give me offense all day every day.
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