Gibbs defends Brunell

aehs77 · 10-17-2004, 05:46 PM

Well boy's it looks like were going to see brunell again in two weeks.

SKINSnCANES · 10-17-2004, 05:48 PM

yea i figured. i hope he just says that now but changes his mind later. no one usually changes qb after a win. but 8/22 for less thatn 100?!?!?

SmootSmack · 10-17-2004, 05:48 PM

Were you just watching the post game press conference as well? It sounded like he said the two weeks will give Brunell a chance to get healthy meaning Brunell is definitely playing against GB. I know he said Mark played smart. I don't think a lot of those throws out of bounds were intentional I think he just missed his receivers.

Jamaican'Skin · 10-17-2004, 05:50 PM

I think this is one of the few rhings that I have to disagree with Gibbs on.

SKINSnCANES · 10-17-2004, 05:51 PM

brunell would throw more picks if he was mor eaccurate. hes throws are almost to far off to be picked off.

aehs77 · 10-17-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

brunell would throw more picks if he was mor eaccurate. hes throws are almost to far off to be picked off.

agreed

SKINSnCANES · 10-17-2004, 05:54 PM

lame that thats the truth...atleast ramsey drives down the field. even if he throws a pick he alteast kept the d off the field and moved the ball. gives us a better chance to score then brunell. I dont think we have any chance to score under brunell

SUNRA · 10-17-2004, 06:03 PM

When an offense is struggling like this offense, the defense has to make up their minds that they can decide the outcome of the game. Sean Springs, Sean Taylor, Fred Smoot, Marcus Washington and Antonio Pierce has that mindset and it shows. The Ravens won a Superbowl with an offense that was as bad as this one. With Lavar returning in two weeks, this defense should be at full throttle. We all know what Brunell is able or unable to do. He's playing with a brace on his knee which makes it virtually impossible to run and pass out of the pocket. If he can heal and run to make the short 20 to 30 yd passes he will be successful. The timing is still not there for Brunell and Jacobs on the long pass. Chicago stacked the box and Portis was still able to run for 171 yds.

I'm not sure that Ramsey is approaching his secondary role to Brunell in good favor. No question he is more talented than Brunell, but he obviously doesn't understand what Gibbs is trying to do. Otherwise he would have started this week. Two weeks, Green Bay in our house. Let's get it started in here!

Gmanc711 · 10-17-2004, 06:05 PM

I openly disagree with Gibbs on this move, as I'm pretty sure everyone does. 3 Superbowl rings or not... this is a bad move in my opinon.

BrunellFan · 10-17-2004, 06:12 PM

If we had lost today- i would agree with you guys- but we have the bye week now, and I think Brunell deserves one final chance to show us something at home against Green Bay. The INT returned for a TD was a fluke play- not really his fault, so he played well enough for a 13-3 win.
If we lose against Green Bay and Brunell is at fault- then by all means bench him- but give him the bye to try to readjust.

SUNRA · 10-17-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I openly disagree with Gibbs on this move, as I'm pretty sure everyone does. 3 Superbowl rings or not... this is a bad move in my opinon.

Well I don't disagree with Gibbs until Ramsey can prove to Gibbs in practice that he understands his system and knows when to throw the ball and not take a sack. This is why he's isn't playing now, so why should he allowed to learn now that we won. If we had loss this game I could understand, but a victory sealed Brunell's position for another two weeks.

SKINSnCANES · 10-17-2004, 06:13 PM

well whats gibbs going to say in a press conference. that hes happy we won and hes going to bench his starting qb. of course not. He still might play ramsey but i doubt it, either way he wouldnt have said anything in a post game conference.

joecrisp · 10-17-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

I'm not sure that Ramsey is approaching his secondary role to Brunell in good favor. No question he is more talented than Brunell, but he obviously doesn't understand what Gibbs is trying to do. Otherwise he would have started this week.

I don't buy that at all. This has nothing to do with Ramsey's performance in practice or otherwise, and everything to do with Gibbs presenting a consistent message of confidence in Brunell. He has stated repeatedly-- ad nauseum-- that he doesn't believe Brunell is the problem, and that the inefficacy of the offense is a product of poor team play and poor coaching. Making a quarterback change would have been totally inconsistent with that message of team accountability.

While I understand and respect that team-oriented approach-- Gibbs knows a hell of a lot more about coaching than I do-- I totally disagree with his assertion that replacing Brunell wouldn't improve the offense, and I feel his heartfelt loyalty to Brunell is blinding him to the cold truth about Brunell's glaring deficiencies.

Tahoe Skin · 10-17-2004, 06:28 PM

Brunell's main strength is handing the ball off to Portis, that is when he doesn't fumble the hand off. He doesn't have the arm strength to be effective; I'm sorry to say it but JG is in denial.

SKINSnCANES · 10-17-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by joecrisp

I don't buy that at all. This has nothing to do with Ramsey's performance in practice or otherwise, and everything to do with Gibbs presenting a consistent message of confidence in Brunell. He has stated repeatedly-- ad nauseum-- that he doesn't believe Brunell is the problem, and that the inefficacy of the offense is a product of poor team play and poor coaching. Making a quarterback change would have been totally inconsistent with that message of team accountability.

While I understand and respect that team-oriented approach-- Gibbs knows a hell of a lot more about coaching than I do-- I totally disagree with his assertion that replacing Brunell wouldn't improve the offense, and I feel his heartfelt loyalty to Brunell is blinding him to the cold truth about Brunell's glaring deficiencies.

APPARENTLY brunell has been injured, or so Gibbs says. But if gibbs thinks its a team and play calling problem then I agree we should stick with brunell. the last thing we need is to make the matter worse. if gibbs feels that the team needs more time to learn his system and for brunell to get on the same page as his receivers then ill go ahead and hope hes right for now. i think ramsey will throw more picks anyways, but I think ramsey gives us the best chance to move the ball and score

10-17-2004, 05:46 PM	#1
aehs77 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: silver spring Age: 39 Posts: 486	Gibbs defends Brunell Well boy's it looks like were going to see brunell again in two weeks.

10-17-2004, 05:48 PM	#2
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	yea i figured. i hope he just says that now but changes his mind later. no one usually changes qb after a win. but 8/22 for less thatn 100?!?!? __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

10-17-2004, 05:48 PM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Were you just watching the post game press conference as well? It sounded like he said the two weeks will give Brunell a chance to get healthy meaning Brunell is definitely playing against GB. I know he said Mark played smart. I don't think a lot of those throws out of bounds were intentional I think he just missed his receivers. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-17-2004, 05:51 PM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	brunell would throw more picks if he was mor eaccurate. hes throws are almost to far off to be picked off. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

10-17-2004, 05:54 PM	#7
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	lame that thats the truth...atleast ramsey drives down the field. even if he throws a pick he alteast kept the d off the field and moved the ball. gives us a better chance to score then brunell. I dont think we have any chance to score under brunell __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

10-17-2004, 05:50 PM	#4
Jamaican'Skin The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Age: 38 Posts: 2,418	I think this is one of the few rhings that I have to disagree with Gibbs on.

10-17-2004, 06:03 PM	#8
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	When an offense is struggling like this offense, the defense has to make up their minds that they can decide the outcome of the game. Sean Springs, Sean Taylor, Fred Smoot, Marcus Washington and Antonio Pierce has that mindset and it shows. The Ravens won a Superbowl with an offense that was as bad as this one. With Lavar returning in two weeks, this defense should be at full throttle. We all know what Brunell is able or unable to do. He's playing with a brace on his knee which makes it virtually impossible to run and pass out of the pocket. If he can heal and run to make the short 20 to 30 yd passes he will be successful. The timing is still not there for Brunell and Jacobs on the long pass. Chicago stacked the box and Portis was still able to run for 171 yds. I'm not sure that Ramsey is approaching his secondary role to Brunell in good favor. No question he is more talented than Brunell, but he obviously doesn't understand what Gibbs is trying to do. Otherwise he would have started this week. Two weeks, Green Bay in our house. Let's get it started in here! __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-17-2004, 06:05 PM	#9
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I openly disagree with Gibbs on this move, as I'm pretty sure everyone does. 3 Superbowl rings or not... this is a bad move in my opinon. __________________ #21

10-17-2004, 06:12 PM	#10
BrunellFan Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 334	If we had lost today- i would agree with you guys- but we have the bye week now, and I think Brunell deserves one final chance to show us something at home against Green Bay. The INT returned for a TD was a fluke play- not really his fault, so he played well enough for a 13-3 win. If we lose against Green Bay and Brunell is at fault- then by all means bench him- but give him the bye to try to readjust. __________________ RIP Mark

10-17-2004, 06:13 PM	#12
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	well whats gibbs going to say in a press conference. that hes happy we won and hes going to bench his starting qb. of course not. He still might play ramsey but i doubt it, either way he wouldnt have said anything in a post game conference. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

10-17-2004, 06:28 PM	#14
Tahoe Skin Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100	Brunell's main strength is handing the ball off to Portis, that is when he doesn't fumble the hand off. He doesn't have the arm strength to be effective; I'm sorry to say it but JG is in denial.

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