Is the game passing Parcells by?

MTK · 10-25-2004, 09:45 AM

The Cowboys are now with us in the cellar of the East at 2-4, hardly a strong follow up to a 10-6 playoff run from a year ago. When you look at the questionable moves they made in the offseason especially at the RB and QB positions, it seems this could be a legit question to ask. After all, Gibbs is being put to task on this each week, so why not Parcells?

How do you have glaring needs at QB and RB and just don't address them properly enough? He had a chance to pick someone like Stephen Jackson in the draft and passed and ended up with Jones who wasn't very impressive before his injury anyway. They had their pick of the free agent QB market and they end up with 41 year old Vinny.

Parcells loves to run the ball and play tough D, right now they can't do either. I think it's safe to say this will be the first time in Parcell's career that his team doesn't improve on their W-L record in his 2nd season.

So what's the deal with the tuna? I don't question his coaching ability, but you have to really question the personnel decisions they made this offseason. Right now this looks like a .500 team at best, and it's coming down to a lack of talent for them, and who's shoulders does that fall on? Who's cooking the dinner down in Big D? Smells like tuna to me!

Bozzy · 10-25-2004, 10:34 AM

Yeah, if somebody is gonna question about Gibbs, they oughta look at Parcells too.

EEich · 10-25-2004, 11:49 AM

I think Parcells made some bad personnel decisions at skill positions because of his inflexible attitude.
He had a better running game with Hambrick last year, but he would have been better if Julius Jones hadn't gotten hurt.
He had a better passing game last year but couldn't get along with QC.

SUNRA · 10-25-2004, 11:59 AM

I'm glad to see Parcells's arrogance finally paying off. He wanted Testerverde and he got him. All 41 years of him. It's clear that the problem with Parcells is Parcells. He and Bobby Knight think that these younger players are intimidated by their drill sargent approach. Parcells threw something at Antonio Bryant and Bryant was about to light his ass up in practice and it serves him right. Quincy Carter isn't good enough with a 10-6 record. But Testerverde is a better QB because he's non-threatening. These are grown men with wives and children and he thinks they are going to take his insults in a positive way. These guys are not Phil Simms. They will lay the beatdown. How bout them Cowboys.

hurrykaine · 10-25-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Cowboys are now with us in the cellar of the East at 2-4, hardly a strong follow up to a 10-6 playoff run from a year ago.

To be accurate, we did lose the head to head matchup with them, which puts us in last place in the NFC east.

In some ways, criticisms of Tuna should be harsher than those of Gibbs simply because Tuna's been coaching regularly in the league, unlike Gibbs, who's returning from a long hiatus. It appeared right on draft day that Tuna was being cocky about the boys' chances of making the playoffs this year, when he passed on 2 good RBs that he could've drafted. However, they'll have a monster year next year - 2 ist rounders, and rumour has it that Tomlinson is interested in playing for Dallas when his contract with the chargers is up.

What's scary for us is how the packers rolled over them yesterday. Mike Zimmer used half-assed attempts at blitzing Favre, and he made them pay for it. I have no doubt that Greg Williams will do a better job of containing the Packers scoring, but even 21 points may be too much for our offense to overcome. We can only hope and pray that Favre has an off day - a 4 INT performance, which he's been doing a lot of lately. This will be the first real test for our secondary.

SUNRA · 10-25-2004, 01:03 PM

At this point of the game, it doesn't matter what Favre trys to do, I know the defense will disrupt his attempts like know other team this year. Remember Lavar and Barrow are back. Our defense is the key to keeping the Packers out of this game. If the 15th ranked Giants can keep Green Bay to 7 points then that's the motivation we need and Ahman Green will be a non-factor with Lavar down his throat and Pierce up his a@#.

d151b · 10-25-2004, 01:30 PM

they're absolutely RIPPING parcells on the local radio stations here. how soon they forget, he turned a bunch of losers into a 10-6 team last year. but, that still doesn't excuse passing up a feature back (stephen jackson) in the draft.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-25-2004, 01:41 PM

I hope the Cowboys do well this year because they've already got a high first rounder (via the Bills pick), they don't need two. They'll probably get the best cornerback in the draft, I don't want them getting the best QB/RB in the draft too.

offiss · 10-25-2004, 01:58 PM

Parcell's is a realist, don't think for one second he new he wasen't going to be that good this year, his thought IMO, was they would be lucky to get close to the playoff's this year, Vinny was brought in as a stop gap until Henson is ready to step in, Julius Jones will be a very good back for Parcell's, remember he's making Richie Anderson look good right now, they are sitting in a real good postion in next year's draft, unlike Gibb's, right now Parcell's lack's talent, remember regardless of how bad we think the guy was, Carter was his starter, and he lost him right before the sesaon started, watch what he does in this upcoming draft, he will restock the boy's with talent, and he has the picks to do it.

bedlamVR · 10-25-2004, 03:29 PM

Thing is he has to make those picks count and there is no garuntee Henson is the real deal, he showed some promise three years ago and in TC but he is already a ways down that rookie road and time may run out on him before he really has time to show what he can do .

The big plan was for 2005 according to Parcells but there is many a twist and turn to come before plan becomes a success and Parcells is more likley to walk than not if it looks like he is up a certian creak without a paddle...

MTK · 10-25-2004, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

To be accurate, we did lose the head to head matchup with them, which puts us in last place in the NFC east.

In some ways, criticisms of Tuna should be harsher than those of Gibbs simply because Tuna's been coaching regularly in the league, unlike Gibbs, who's returning from a long hiatus. It appeared right on draft day that Tuna was being cocky about the boys' chances of making the playoffs this year, when he passed on 2 good RBs that he could've drafted. However, they'll have a monster year next year - 2 ist rounders, and rumour has it that Tomlinson is interested in playing for Dallas when his contract with the chargers is up.

What's scary for us is how the packers rolled over them yesterday. Mike Zimmer used half-assed attempts at blitzing Favre, and he made them pay for it. I have no doubt that Greg Williams will do a better job of containing the Packers scoring, but even 21 points may be too much for our offense to overcome. We can only hope and pray that Favre has an off day - a 4 INT performance, which he's been doing a lot of lately. This will be the first real test for our secondary.

LT re-signed a mega deal with the Chargers not too long ago, so we won't have to worry about him going to big D anytime soon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1859478

They do have a chance to reload quickly with those picks next year, but with the way they drafted this year...

la73hof · 10-25-2004, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I hope the Cowboys do well this year because they've already got a high first rounder (via the Bills pick), they don't need two. They'll probably get the best cornerback in the draft, I don't want them getting the best QB/RB in the draft too.

CB is a major concern... but not the biggest

A mammoth DT and DE are priorities 1 and 1A

la73hof · 10-25-2004, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by d151b

they're absolutely RIPPING parcells on the local radio stations here. how soon they forget, he turned a bunch of losers into a 10-6 team last year. but, that still doesn't excuse passing up a feature back (stephen jackson) in the draft.

He deserves it d151b...he's the guy who penny piched during the past 2 offseasons and has had 2 very questionable drafts

The best part of the past 2 offseasons was the acquisitions of Buffalo's 1st for next year and Drew Henson

While teams in our division got better and acquired talent, we actually got worse with the personnel we picked up

We thought it couldnt get any worse with Ekuban and Mario Edwards...

We were wrong

DC Mike Zimmer will get the ax and I hope we have the balls to hire an aggressive DC like Gregg Williams

SmootSmack · 10-25-2004, 06:55 PM

Is Marcellus Wiley the free agent bust of the year?

That Guy · 10-25-2004, 07:04 PM

williams is awesome

i still believe we had a great offseason minus brunell (taylor, cooley, washington, williams, gibbs,portis, griffin, brown, springs, re-signing pierce)... still could use DE, SS, and might have a use for a great DT, OL, or QB...

but yeah, i agree, your DC isn't the best and parcells is a sucky GM (like Mr. Miami)...

10-25-2004, 09:45 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Is the game passing Parcells by? The Cowboys are now with us in the cellar of the East at 2-4, hardly a strong follow up to a 10-6 playoff run from a year ago. When you look at the questionable moves they made in the offseason especially at the RB and QB positions, it seems this could be a legit question to ask. After all, Gibbs is being put to task on this each week, so why not Parcells? How do you have glaring needs at QB and RB and just don't address them properly enough? He had a chance to pick someone like Stephen Jackson in the draft and passed and ended up with Jones who wasn't very impressive before his injury anyway. They had their pick of the free agent QB market and they end up with 41 year old Vinny. Parcells loves to run the ball and play tough D, right now they can't do either. I think it's safe to say this will be the first time in Parcell's career that his team doesn't improve on their W-L record in his 2nd season. So what's the deal with the tuna? I don't question his coaching ability, but you have to really question the personnel decisions they made this offseason. Right now this looks like a .500 team at best, and it's coming down to a lack of talent for them, and who's shoulders does that fall on? Who's cooking the dinner down in Big D? Smells like tuna to me!

10-25-2004, 11:59 AM	#4
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	I'm glad to see Parcells's arrogance finally paying off. He wanted Testerverde and he got him. All 41 years of him. It's clear that the problem with Parcells is Parcells. He and Bobby Knight think that these younger players are intimidated by their drill sargent approach. Parcells threw something at Antonio Bryant and Bryant was about to light his ass up in practice and it serves him right. Quincy Carter isn't good enough with a 10-6 record. But Testerverde is a better QB because he's non-threatening. These are grown men with wives and children and he thinks they are going to take his insults in a positive way. These guys are not Phil Simms. They will lay the beatdown. How bout them Cowboys. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-25-2004, 01:03 PM	#6
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	At this point of the game, it doesn't matter what Favre trys to do, I know the defense will disrupt his attempts like know other team this year. Remember Lavar and Barrow are back. Our defense is the key to keeping the Packers out of this game. If the 15th ranked Giants can keep Green Bay to 7 points then that's the motivation we need and Ahman Green will be a non-factor with Lavar down his throat and Pierce up his a@#. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-25-2004, 06:55 PM	#14
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Is Marcellus Wiley the free agent bust of the year? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-25-2004, 10:34 AM	#2
Bozzy The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 44 Posts: 1,034	Yeah, if somebody is gonna question about Gibbs, they oughta look at Parcells too.

10-25-2004, 11:49 AM	#3
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	I think Parcells made some bad personnel decisions at skill positions because of his inflexible attitude. He had a better running game with Hambrick last year, but he would have been better if Julius Jones hadn't gotten hurt. He had a better passing game last year but couldn't get along with QC.

10-25-2004, 01:30 PM	#7
d151b Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 157	they're absolutely RIPPING parcells on the local radio stations here. how soon they forget, he turned a bunch of losers into a 10-6 team last year. but, that still doesn't excuse passing up a feature back (stephen jackson) in the draft.

10-25-2004, 01:41 PM	#8
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	I hope the Cowboys do well this year because they've already got a high first rounder (via the Bills pick), they don't need two. They'll probably get the best cornerback in the draft, I don't want them getting the best QB/RB in the draft too.

10-25-2004, 01:58 PM	#9
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Parcell's is a realist, don't think for one second he new he wasen't going to be that good this year, his thought IMO, was they would be lucky to get close to the playoff's this year, Vinny was brought in as a stop gap until Henson is ready to step in, Julius Jones will be a very good back for Parcell's, remember he's making Richie Anderson look good right now, they are sitting in a real good postion in next year's draft, unlike Gibb's, right now Parcell's lack's talent, remember regardless of how bad we think the guy was, Carter was his starter, and he lost him right before the sesaon started, watch what he does in this upcoming draft, he will restock the boy's with talent, and he has the picks to do it.

10-25-2004, 03:29 PM	#10
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	Thing is he has to make those picks count and there is no garuntee Henson is the real deal, he showed some promise three years ago and in TC but he is already a ways down that rookie road and time may run out on him before he really has time to show what he can do . The big plan was for 2005 according to Parcells but there is many a twist and turn to come before plan becomes a success and Parcells is more likley to walk than not if it looks like he is up a certian creak without a paddle...

10-25-2004, 07:04 PM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	williams is awesome i still believe we had a great offseason minus brunell (taylor, cooley, washington, williams, gibbs,portis, griffin, brown, springs, re-signing pierce)... still could use DE, SS, and might have a use for a great DT, OL, or QB... but yeah, i agree, your DC isn't the best and parcells is a sucky GM (like Mr. Miami)...

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