Forcefeeding

[offiss]

Gibb's is forcefeeding Brunell on this team, why? I will give you 43 million reason's why, it was one of his first moves as GM and it is an absolute blunder, to not only give him 43 mil but give up a pick to get him when he was going to be released, I said it the day the rumor's started swirling around about us getting Brunell, well for all those who thought Gibb's new what he was doing with this trade, I told you so!

I also said at the time that Ramsey now is better than Brunell, and once he has the expierence he will be better than Brunell ever could have hoped to be, and it's only a matter of time before I am writing I told you so! But until Gibb's decides to swallow his pride and make the switch, we will continue to lose, Brunell will not get better.

On a lighter note I am on the verge of taking Gardner out of my dog house, he is finally looking like he may fullfill the potential that we all new he had, I have to give credit where credit is do, he's done a good job, and he throw's a much better ball than Brunell, how bout the best deep pass of the day came on the 1 and only throw by a WR and he almost completed it, [ it looked like the DB hooked our WR a little on that one as well] Brunell didn't come that close with a semi deep ball all day.

I am going to cut portis slack until Brunell is out of there, it has to be pretty tough running when you can't spread the D because they don't respect anything deep, they are just flooding our running lanes with defender's knowing brunell can't drive the ball down field, so what if they give up a short pass here or there, Brunell will stumble before he crosses mid field.

I saw the highlight of the offsides by Thrash he went in motion then kind of stopped and faced the line I do believe you can face the line so long as you don't go forward, I also thought you don't have to come to a complete stop either, tough call I would really have to look at it more closely, regardless we shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with, BRUNELL YOU ARE A SHAM AS QB, AND IF YOU HAD ANY HONOR AT ALL YOU WOULD GIVE BACK YOUR SIGNING BONUS AND RETIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Defense under the circumstances OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cpayne5]

I'm not buying into the theory that Gibbs is playing Brunell based entirely on the amount of his contract. I don't like that Brunell is still in there, but I don't agree with your opinion as to why he's still in there.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I'm not buying into the theory that Gibbs is playing Brunell based entirely on the amount of his contract. I don't like that Brunell is still in there, but I don't agree with your opinion as to why he's still in there.

Well he's certainly not basing it on his performance. let's see his QB rating this week was 60. Not sure if that is up or down from the chicago game, which that in itself pretty much sums it up.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by offiss

Well he's certainly not basing it on his performance. let's see his QB rating this week was 60. Not sure if that is up or down from the chicago game, which that in itself pretty much sums it up.

I agree that Brunell has played horribly. But we do not know 100% of what Gibbs and Co are thinking, so how can we jump to conclusions as to why Brunell is still in? I think that its pretty insulting to Gibbs that you would suggest he's that ignorant, stubborn ,shallow, or whatever it is you're trying to say.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by offiss

Gibb's is forcefeeding Brunell on this team, why? I will give you 43 million reason's why, it was one of his first moves as GM and it is an absolute blunder, to not only give him 43 mil but give up a pick to get him when he was going to be released, I said it the day the rumor's started swirling around about us getting Brunell, well for all those who thought Gibb's new what he was doing with this trade, I told you so!

if you think Gibbs would put pride or money in front of wins and give Brunell the ball just cuz he was his choice at expense of the team, you are just dead wrong.

Originally Posted by offiss

I am going to cut portis slack until Brunell is out of there, it has to be pretty tough running when you can't spread the D because they don't respect anything deep, they are just flooding our running lanes with defender's knowing brunell can't drive the ball down field, so what if they give up a short pass here or there, Brunell will stumble before he crosses mid field.

slack?? anyone who's dissed Portis this year is nuts. Portis has been the ONLY guy on our offense this whole year, not to mention the most talented on that side of the ball. by far. he was being used completely wrong at first, but he gave it his all, and once Gibbs learned how to use him, the fumbles stopped and the yardage came. that guy NEVER quits, and is always squirming for that yard way after the OLine, Brunell, AND the WRs have given up on the play. i noticed Gibbs held back on the pitchouts this game, too bad, i saw that his longest gain was on one of the rare times they called it.

[illdefined]

like i said in another post, only Gibbs spends the week seeing both these QBs play under the pressure of an angry blitzing defense (ours). what did YOU do this week?

[skinsfanthru&thru]

I've slowly been converted into one of the fans calling for Ramsey to start, but I've also been thinking that with how badly Brunnel has played and Gibbs legally doing whatever it takes to win, why is Gibbs so hesitant to put Ramsey in there? I mean Brunnel can't play much worse(knock on wood) and Gibbs knows a thing or 2 about qbs but yet it doesn't even seem like an option to Gibbs to have Ramsey playing and that's pretty frightening.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I'm not buying into the theory that Gibbs is playing Brunell based entirely on the amount of his contract. I don't like that Brunell is still in there, but I don't agree with your opinion as to why he's still in there.

I don't think he's playing him just because of his contract either.

If that's the case we're in for a rough 5 years.

It's not like Ramsey was playing lights out in camp and Gibbs gave the job to Brunell anyway. If that happened this argument might hold some water.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by illdefined

like i said in another post, only Gibbs spends the week seeing both these QBs play under the pressure of an angry blitzing defense (ours). what did YOU do this week?

LOL yeah that pretty much sums up how I feel.

We can sit here and second guess Gibbs all we want, fact is he's the man who brought this team 3 trophies, he must have some clue as to what he's doing.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by illdefined

if you think Gibbs would put pride or money in front of wins and give Brunell the ball just cuz he was his choice at expense of the team, you are just dead wrong.

, not to mention the most talented on that side of the ball. by far. he was being used completely wrong at first, but he gave it his all, and once Gibbs learned how to use him, the fumbles stopped and the yardage came. that guy NEVER quits, and is always squirming for that yard way after the OLine, Brunell, AND the WRs have given up on the play. i noticed Gibbs held back on the pitchouts this game, too bad, i saw that his longest gain was on one of the rare times they called it.

Correct me if I am wrong here Portis has 2 100yd games? Gardner has been our best offensive player this year.

Im dead wrong AAAAA, so tell me what has Brunell done to earn the loyalty he is recieving right now? Any other QB for any other team would be on the bench, but Brunell is still playing, and all the NFL experts no it! Gibb's made a pre-determained decision on the QB's without really taking a close look at Ramsey, he assumed that Brunell because of his previous numbers would thrive under his guidance, well we are seeing why Coughlin wanted to trade him, he knew he couldn't win with him, he was a kaotic QB who ran around and made play's, he is not a passer which you have to be to play for Gibb's, so keep writing because when ramsey get's his chance to play I will season them with salt and post them so you may eat them.

Rest assured I AM DEAD ON!!!!!

QUOTE]slack?? anyone who's dissed Portis this year is nuts. Portis has been the ONLY guy on our offense this whole year

Maybe that explain's our 2-5 record? :tongue

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by offiss

Correct me if I am wrong here Portis has 2 100yd games? Gardner has been our best offensive player this year.

Im dead wrong AAAAA, so tell me what has Brunell done to earn the loyalty he is recieving right now? Any other QB for any other team would be on the bench, but Brunell is still playing, and all the NFL experts no it! Gibb's made a pre-determained decision on the QB's without really taking a close look at Ramsey, he assumed that Brunell because of his previous numbers would thrive under his guidance, well we are seeing why Coughlin wanted to trade him, he knew he couldn't win with him, he was a kaotic QB who ran around and made play's, he is not a passer which you have to be to play for Gibb's, so keep writing because when ramsey get's his chance to play I will season them with salt and post them so you may eat them.

Rest assured I AM DEAD ON!!!!!

Maybe that explain's our 2-5 record? :tongue

sure thing offiss, and PRESEASON didn't happen. what happened to Ramsey then?? have you seen what he's like at practice?

oh and Gardner's 'awesome' play this year is just a liiiittle bit determined by the play of your boy uh...BRUNELL

oh and just because i said Portis is the most talented player on an 11 man offense we should have a record of 7-0 and seven 100 yd games??

[Big C]

but at least teams have to respect the fact that ramsey can throw the ball more than 15 yards...did u see the hail mary at the end of the 2nd? it went to the 10!!! and we were past midfield...

[illdefined]

hell yeah Ramsey has a gun and i want to see it with this offense, but he's got cement shoes under pressure (which we cant stop) and is slow to read defenses and throws picks. cant deny it. while i think at this point in the season its worth a try, and have him progress, Gibbs is playing Brunell cuz he thinks he gives us the best chance to win NOW and nothing else.

[Big C]

but i mean teams can load the box cuz they dont respect the deep ball, which hurts our running game a lot..

[illdefined]

and that's exactly how they beat Ramsey last year. the most blitzed rookie ever. and this year's "max protection" hasn't been where it needs to be all season, THAT'S why Brunell is in there.