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Old 03-03-2010, 11:57 AM   #1
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How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

The Saints are reported to be giving Bushrod a second round tender. Jermon bushrod started 14 games and all play off and the super bowl. He was a very athletic kid with all the right measurable to play LT. He ran a 4.92 at his pro day.

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I guess someone who knows football needs to look at the tape and see if he could be a left tackle, but they won the super bowl with him. If he is a starting caliber LT, at 25, turning 26 in August, he would be a steel. Does anyone know if that would be a second this year or next.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:04 PM   #2
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Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

Great pickup after we draft Okung at #4.

We need to draft o-linemen early AND often and pick up any decent FAs. After last season's disaster, there is no such thing as too many linemen.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:06 PM   #3
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Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized that the single reason why New Orleans lost to Dallas is because Demarcus Ware had a blast rushing on Bushrod's side, and considering we play dallas twice a year, thats why I wouldn't get him, RT on the other hand wouldn't be a bad idea, but then again if we use our second on a RT and our first (possibly on a QB) then we would have our next pick be our fourth rounder on a tackle, and theres no tackles projected in the 4th round that could start at LT.

In short, the answer is no.
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Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

Meh, this draft is so lineman rich I don't see the need to give up a pick on a guy who's not anything special. He's definitely not a long term fix at LT either.
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I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized that the single reason why New Orleans lost to Dallas is because Demarcus Ware had a blast rushing on Bushrod's side, and considering we play dallas twice a year, thats why I wouldn't get him, RT on the other hand wouldn't be a bad idea, but then again if we use our second on a RT and our first (possibly on a QB) then we would have our next pick be our fourth rounder on a tackle, and theres no tackles projected in the 4th round that could start at LT.

In short, the answer is no.
Well, you may be right. I remember how big of a game he had, but I dont remember if it was all Bushrods fault. Again, he was good enough to win the superbowl. Breese was on of the least sacked QB's in the league.
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Well, you may be right. I remember how big of a game he had, but I dont remember if it was all Bushrods fault. Again, he was good enough to win the superbowl. Breese was on of the least sacked QB's in the league.
Brees also is a great QB who has pocket awareness and knows when to get rid of the ball, and also his line is just very good in general (Jahri Evans is an All pro Guard, Carl Nicks is going to be just like Evans, Stinchcomb's a great RT, and Goodwin is an above average center)
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Maybe post-draft, if Bushrod has not signed his tender and we didn't get the linemen that we thought we might, then we might consider such a move.
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Maybe post-draft, if Bushrod has not signed his tender and we didn't get the linemen that we thought we might, then we might consider such a move.
Does that mean if we do it prior to draft we would have to give this years second rounder? I think if we could get him for next years second then it would work well for us.
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Brees also is a great QB who has pocket awareness and knows when to get rid of the ball, and also his line is just very good in general (Jahri Evans is an All pro Guard, Carl Nicks is going to be just like Evans, Stinchcomb's a great RT, and Goodwin is an above average center)
Thats a pretty lofty expectation to compare a very good player to the best in the game:
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Brees also is a great QB who has pocket awareness and knows when to get rid of the ball, and also his line is just very good in general (Jahri Evans is an All pro Guard, Carl Nicks is going to be just like Evans, Stinchcomb's a great RT, and Goodwin is an above average center)
The Saints line really didn't play all that well last year, I would say Brees and his ability to get the ball out quick was the main reason he wasn't sacked more.
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The Saints are reported to be giving Bushrod a second round tender. Jermon bushrod started 14 games and all play off and the super bowl. He was a very athletic kid with all the right measurable to play LT. He ran a 4.92 at his pro day.
Imo a current young starting RT like Bushrod is safer then drafting a potential RT in the second round.

With the 37th pick all the LT prospeect would be off the board and provided there isn't a run on OL we would be looking at the 6 or 7 rated OT.
These players like Vladimir Duccasse or Charles Brown or Veldheer may not even be ready to start.

But, on the other hand why are the saints willing to let him a young OT go?

Was Bushrod ability inflated by the quality of the other OL around him?

At the end of the day Bushrod would instantly be the best OT on our roster.
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Does that mean if we do it prior to draft we would have to give this years second rounder? I think if we could get him for next years second then it would work well for us.
I could be wrong but that is what I was thinking.
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Imo a current young starting RT like Bushrod is safer then drafting a potential RT in the second round.

With the 37th pick all the LT prospeect would be off the board and provided there isn't a run on OL we would be looking at the 6 or 7 rated OT.
These players like Vladimir Duccasse or Charles Brown or Veldheer may not even be ready to start.

But, on the other hand why are the saints willing to let him a young OT go?

Was Bushrod ability inflated by the quality of the other OL around him?

At the end of the day Bushrod would instantly be the best OT on our roster.
Bushrod was a career backup until he was forced into action this year due to Jammal Brown going down with an injury. Now that Brown is healthy Bushrod is expendable. He did a decent job filling in at LT but was often exposed. He's a decent player, a good backup to have around.
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Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

I read what Saints bloggers had to say about Bushrod and not one of them blaimed him for Ware's big day. They all said that any team would have helped out more against Ware. Again, not sure, but if our scouts think he can play LT and we can get him for next years second round draft pick, then it would be the best move in the world.
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Re: How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

If we did go after him, I definitely would put him at RT. If you can't let your LT lock up one on one consistently with the top pass rushers in this league, you've got a problem.
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