Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart

MTK · 03-10-2010, 12:08 PM

I never thought I'd repeat these words during this or any other free-agency period, but now I can't help myself: Let's hear it for the Washington Redskins. They've done the unthinkable, the unimaginable and the damn-near-impossible when it comes to free-agent spending.

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diehardskin2982 · 03-10-2010, 12:18 PM

I don't know what to think right now. I would feel better about not chasing free agent if we had more draft picks but we don't. My only thought is that we will have to trade down.

Player_HTTR · 03-10-2010, 12:23 PM

The approach they are taking makes my think (hope) they are looking at making trades for RFA/picks, more so than over pay some one in this rather poor FA. Those won't come until FA calms down so I am taking a wait and see approach. I am not very patient though so I am still refreshing every sport website constantly, hoping to see some kinda action on the FO's part.

Lotus · 03-10-2010, 12:31 PM

Good article Matty.

Let's all chill while we slowly and methodically build a winning team.

MTK · 03-10-2010, 12:33 PM

I think we're all so used to seeing the quick fix approach, but it's time to sit back and take a deep breath, and build a team for the long haul. At least I hope that's what we're seeing.

Lotus · 03-10-2010, 12:40 PM

Not many of the current FA's are that big of a deal. Personally what keeps me on the edge of my seat is draft expectation. Who's going to be holding up a Redskins jersey April 22-24? I would like answers now!

freddyg12 · 03-10-2010, 12:55 PM

Aside from the obvious - that spending doesn't equal more wins - what I think is best about this offseason so far is that it's forward thinking for 2011 & 2012. By that I mean that Allen et al are calculating the potential strike year as a factor and are getting the team's finances in shape to be stable if and when a new cba is signed. Given the labor situation, it makes even more sense to drop vets & acquire youth, trim the payroll down.

freddyg12 · 03-10-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Not many of the current FA's are that big of a deal. Personally what keeps me on the edge of my seat is draft expectation. Who's going to be holding up a Redskins jersey April 22-24? I would like answers now!

it will be exciting no matter what!

FRPLG · 03-10-2010, 01:23 PM

Even when they praise us I hate this type of article. I am sick and f'ing tired of hearing about Smith/George/Sanders. It was F***ING 10 years ago!!!!! And calling Haynesworth a disappointment shows a complete lack of any real knowledge. He was not. We had a rookie DE/LB and the opposite DE combine for 22 sacks. You can thank AH for half of those. Yes our new approach is better. Yes our old old approach wasn't very good. The intervening approach was solid yet unproductive. No one ever talks about the year Gibbs came back and signed guys who actually worked out. They conveniently forget the signings of Griffin and Washington. I buy that going strictly the FA doesn't work a lot. I don't buy that it has been as bad as it gets portrayed like 31 other teams had the right idea and Danny-boy didn't. Ugg.

Ruhskins · 03-10-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Even when they praise us I hate this type of article. I am sick and f'ing tired of hearing about Smith/George/Sanders. It was F***ING 10 years ago!!!!! And calling Haynesworth a disappointment shows a complete lack of any real knowledge. He was not. We had a rookie DE/LB and the opposite DE combine for 22 sacks. You can thank AH for half of those. Yes our new approach is better. Yes our old old approach wasn't very good. The intervening approach was solid yet unproductive. No one ever talks about the year Gibbs came back and signed guys who actually worked out. They conveniently forget the signings of Griffin and Washington. I buy that going strictly the FA doesn't work a lot. I don't buy that it has been as bad as it gets portrayed like 31 other teams had the right idea and Danny-boy didn't. Ugg.

I'm sick of this too. It's like every sports writer has 5 to 7 sentences about the Redskins, they shuffle them and come up with a "new" story. Also, no one ever thinks to say, "Hmm, maybe the coaching staff didn't do a good job in using these free agents".

JoeRedskin · 03-10-2010, 01:43 PM

^^ Well said. 10 years from now, if Snyder still owns the Skins, his critics will still be referring to Smith, Sanders and George. Let it go people!!!

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-10-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

^^ Well said. 10 years from now, if Snyder still owns the Skins, his critics will still be referring to Smith, Sanders and George. Let it go people!!!

i'm just happy that if/when we win a superbowl under shanahan, they won't be able to say that Snyder bought a championship.

If we have any measure of success with Shanahan and Allen running the show (atleast one season with more than 10 wins), then i dont think Snyder will ever return to his old ways.

GMScud · 03-10-2010, 02:24 PM

I agree that it wasn't really necessary to spend mega-bucks this year. I could have lived with a Dansby signing, but I wanted no part of the other guys.

At this point I'd say our patience and restraint is smart, but I said from day 1 of Shanahan/Allen that I'm taking a wait and see approach.

Beneil (diehard since 87) · 03-10-2010, 02:51 PM

I agree with FRPLG. If you go back 10 years on ANY team you'll see some fruitless free agency signings. You can't compare Dion's crappy performance to Bruce Smith's steady production. Did Bruce get 8 sacks a game? no, but the dude got plenty of sacks those seasons, his first season he got ten.

The main thing that got me was the way he talked about Haynesworth. We got more sacks this year than we've gotten since the FIRST time Gibbs was coaching. To say he didn't play a part is to say that you didn't understand the part he played. Look at the difference between with or without him. THe first Cowboys game our defense was solid until the final cowboy drive. The LAST time we played, they just ran it right up the middle as if to say "Your line ain't JACK without Haynesworth!"

So WHAT if he missed a few games. HE WAS INJURED!?!! It happens. WHen he CAN play injured, he DOES play injured.

The man is a beast and looks out for his fellow Redskins. Anyone against him doesn't know football.

Longtimefan · 03-10-2010, 03:10 PM

I never anticipated much action in FA for several reasons. First, there's not a lot to choose from, and what there is, we weren't going to overpay for. Second, I want to believe the FO's approach is here to stay, excessive spending for FA's, trading away DP's and sacraficing DP's for RFA's is a pattern no longer on the radar.

Having only five DP's this upcoming draft is why I'd like to see a trade down if could find a willing partner, gain additional picks while still being able to fulfill our basic needs. I do not however consider a QB being a basic need, at least not in this draft.

03-10-2010, 12:08 PM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart I never thought I'd repeat these words during this or any other free-agency period, but now I can't help myself: Let's hear it for the Washington Redskins. They've done the unthinkable, the unimaginable and the damn-near-impossible when it comes to free-agent spending. Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart - NFL - CBSSports.com Football __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-10-2010, 12:18 PM	#2
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart I don't know what to think right now. I would feel better about not chasing free agent if we had more draft picks but we don't. My only thought is that we will have to trade down. __________________ That got ugly fast

03-10-2010, 12:23 PM	#3
Player_HTTR Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 328	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart The approach they are taking makes my think (hope) they are looking at making trades for RFA/picks, more so than over pay some one in this rather poor FA. Those won't come until FA calms down so I am taking a wait and see approach. I am not very patient though so I am still refreshing every sport website constantly, hoping to see some kinda action on the FO's part.

03-10-2010, 12:31 PM	#4
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart Good article Matty. Let's all chill while we slowly and methodically build a winning team. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

03-10-2010, 12:33 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart I think we're all so used to seeing the quick fix approach, but it's time to sit back and take a deep breath, and build a team for the long haul. At least I hope that's what we're seeing. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-10-2010, 12:40 PM	#6
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart Not many of the current FA's are that big of a deal. Personally what keeps me on the edge of my seat is draft expectation. Who's going to be holding up a Redskins jersey April 22-24? I would like answers now! __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

03-10-2010, 12:55 PM	#7
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart Aside from the obvious - that spending doesn't equal more wins - what I think is best about this offseason so far is that it's forward thinking for 2011 & 2012. By that I mean that Allen et al are calculating the potential strike year as a factor and are getting the team's finances in shape to be stable if and when a new cba is signed. Given the labor situation, it makes even more sense to drop vets & acquire youth, trim the payroll down.

03-10-2010, 01:23 PM	#9
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart Even when they praise us I hate this type of article. I am sick and f'ing tired of hearing about Smith/George/Sanders. It was F***ING 10 years ago!!!!! And calling Haynesworth a disappointment shows a complete lack of any real knowledge. He was not. We had a rookie DE/LB and the opposite DE combine for 22 sacks. You can thank AH for half of those. Yes our new approach is better. Yes our old old approach wasn't very good. The intervening approach was solid yet unproductive. No one ever talks about the year Gibbs came back and signed guys who actually worked out. They conveniently forget the signings of Griffin and Washington. I buy that going strictly the FA doesn't work a lot. I don't buy that it has been as bad as it gets portrayed like 31 other teams had the right idea and Danny-boy didn't. Ugg.

03-10-2010, 01:43 PM	#11
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart ^^ Well said. 10 years from now, if Snyder still owns the Skins, his critics will still be referring to Smith, Sanders and George. Let it go people!!! __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

03-10-2010, 02:24 PM	#13
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart I agree that it wasn't really necessary to spend mega-bucks this year. I could have lived with a Dansby signing, but I wanted no part of the other guys. At this point I'd say our patience and restraint is smart, but I said from day 1 of Shanahan/Allen that I'm taking a wait and see approach. __________________ Tardy

03-10-2010, 02:51 PM	#14
Beneil (diehard since 87) Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 118	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart I agree with FRPLG. If you go back 10 years on ANY team you'll see some fruitless free agency signings. You can't compare Dion's crappy performance to Bruce Smith's steady production. Did Bruce get 8 sacks a game? no, but the dude got plenty of sacks those seasons, his first season he got ten. The main thing that got me was the way he talked about Haynesworth. We got more sacks this year than we've gotten since the FIRST time Gibbs was coaching. To say he didn't play a part is to say that you didn't understand the part he played. Look at the difference between with or without him. THe first Cowboys game our defense was solid until the final cowboy drive. The LAST time we played, they just ran it right up the middle as if to say "Your line ain't JACK without Haynesworth!" So WHAT if he missed a few games. HE WAS INJURED!?!! It happens. WHen he CAN play injured, he DOES play injured. The man is a beast and looks out for his fellow Redskins. Anyone against him doesn't know football.

03-10-2010, 03:10 PM	#15
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Wisdom in Washington? 'Skins finally get smart I never anticipated much action in FA for several reasons. First, there's not a lot to choose from, and what there is, we weren't going to overpay for. Second, I want to believe the FO's approach is here to stay, excessive spending for FA's, trading away DP's and sacraficing DP's for RFA's is a pattern no longer on the radar. Having only five DP's this upcoming draft is why I'd like to see a trade down if could find a willing partner, gain additional picks while still being able to fulfill our basic needs. I do not however consider a QB being a basic need, at least not in this draft.

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