Different Season, Same Trap

saden1 · 04-08-2010, 05:28 PM

Seems like almost everyone is excited about getting McNabb and I can't help wonder why everyone is so giddy given the 'Skins track-record of overpaying for big names some of whom are in their twilight years. What do you think the Skins record will be next year? McNabb's stats? Keep in mind McNabb is going to be learning a new system with a new coach and new teammates.

I say 8-8 with McNabb netting 3500 yards, 20 TDs, and 14 INTs. Don't get too excited and get your hopes up, they will inevitably be dashed.

tryfuhl · 04-08-2010, 05:32 PM

Meet me in the trap it's goin' down.

McNabb is used to having different receivers by now and he knows the concepts of our system.

Schneed10 · 04-08-2010, 05:34 PM

Until the offensive line is significantly upgraded, I'd say the McNabb and Shanahan partnership makes us 3 wins better, 7-9. If we get an offensive line worth a darn then I can see 9-7.

The defense is going to experience a fair amount of change themselves.

12thMan · 04-08-2010, 05:37 PM

I say we go 10-6, maybe 11-5.

GMScud · 04-08-2010, 05:39 PM

I think McNabb will get up to speed very quickly. He knows the terminology of the system, he just has to get used to a balanced attack instead of throwing 70% of the time.

I do agree about all the elation around his signing. You've got wonder if Vinny did this what everyone's reaction would be. Another high priced, past his prime vet brought in for high draft pick(s).... Granted it's a qb, but still.

On the low end I'd say 7 wins, on the high end I'd say 10.

mredskins · 04-08-2010, 05:43 PM

I am excited becasue the Redskins are a "get away" for me from reality. So Iwant to hope my "get away" is at least going to be fun.

Lotus · 04-08-2010, 05:51 PM

Without knowing who will play on the o-line I find it impossible to speculate too much. However, I will say that Shanny's system will be far more familiar than new to McNabb. Reid's Philly offensive concepts are not dissimilar.

44ever · 04-08-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

You've got wonder if Vinny did this what everyone's reaction would be. Another high priced, past his prime vet brought in for high draft pick(s).... Granted it's a qb, but still.

IMO. If Vinny did this he would still be here! What I mean is if he was bold enough to replace JC.

skinsguy · 04-08-2010, 05:52 PM

I don't know if it's the same trap. I was kind of skeptical about this news at first. But, taking a step back, there are plenty of differences with this situation. When we got Mark Brunell, he had came off a serious injury and hadn't played a lot of football. McNabb was fairly healthy last year, and still has a strong arm. McNabb holds all of the passing records in Philly (yes I know it's Philly!) He's gotten to a Super Bowl and he's one Super Bowl win away from probably being a hall of fame QB. Plus, I think we're getting him a bit younger than what we had gotten Brunell (I think, right?)

It's the same offense he's used to playing in. He won't have to throw nearly as much each game as he did in Philly. Really, it's not a question about McNabb at all...it's the offensive line. That really will decide if the Redskins are a 10 win team this coming season or will they be .500 or below.

Player_HTTR · 04-08-2010, 05:54 PM

So far he is making a good impression on the people he throws to.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 04-08-2010, 06:01 PM

I believe the first half of the season we may struggle with the adjustments to the new system/scheme. The second half should be better. Overall we're probably looking at 8-8 or 9-7. (with the obligatory "injury-free" caveat).

Looking at our schedule and making assumptions (we all know what happens when you ass-u-me):

Eagles - W & L
Cowboys - W & L
Giants - W & L
Colts - L
Bucs - W
Rams - W
Texans - ?
Bears - W
Packers - ?
Vikes - L
Lions - W
Jags - ?
Titans - ?

I expect McNabb to be in-line with his last three years:

3500-3600 yards / 22TD / 9INT / 61% comp / 2-3 TD rushing

47FAN · 04-08-2010, 06:07 PM

i felt the same way when it first happen but mcnabb has seemed to mesh really good so far. maybe 10-6 and avg stats

Mechanix544 · 04-08-2010, 06:08 PM

If we get Okung, 10-6. If we can get either Bulaga or Campbell from maryland, and B. marshall, 11-5, possibly 12-4.

Now who says Im not a fan????

Mechanix544 · 04-08-2010, 06:11 PM

Seriously tho, assuming we make a substantial upgrade at RT and LT, barring injuries, I think 9-7 - 11-5 is definitely possible.

You gotta think we'll sweep the iggles, and of course the cowgirls also!!!!

sandtrapjack · 04-08-2010, 06:12 PM

16-0! Httr!

04-08-2010, 05:28 PM	#1
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Different Season, Same Trap Seems like almost everyone is excited about getting McNabb and I can't help wonder why everyone is so giddy given the 'Skins track-record of overpaying for big names some of whom are in their twilight years. What do you think the Skins record will be next year? McNabb's stats? Keep in mind McNabb is going to be learning a new system with a new coach and new teammates. I say 8-8 with McNabb netting 3500 yards, 20 TDs, and 14 INTs. Don't get too excited and get your hopes up, they will inevitably be dashed. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

04-08-2010, 05:32 PM	#2
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: Different Season, Same Trap Meet me in the trap it's goin' down. McNabb is used to having different receivers by now and he knows the concepts of our system.

04-08-2010, 05:34 PM	#3
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,426	Re: Different Season, Same Trap Until the offensive line is significantly upgraded, I'd say the McNabb and Shanahan partnership makes us 3 wins better, 7-9. If we get an offensive line worth a darn then I can see 9-7. The defense is going to experience a fair amount of change themselves. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

04-08-2010, 05:37 PM	#4
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Different Season, Same Trap I say we go 10-6, maybe 11-5.

04-08-2010, 05:39 PM	#5
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Different Season, Same Trap I think McNabb will get up to speed very quickly. He knows the terminology of the system, he just has to get used to a balanced attack instead of throwing 70% of the time. I do agree about all the elation around his signing. You've got wonder if Vinny did this what everyone's reaction would be. Another high priced, past his prime vet brought in for high draft pick(s).... Granted it's a qb, but still. On the low end I'd say 7 wins, on the high end I'd say 10. __________________ Tardy

04-08-2010, 05:43 PM	#6
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,867	Re: Different Season, Same Trap I am excited becasue the Redskins are a "get away" for me from reality. So Iwant to hope my "get away" is at least going to be fun. __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

04-08-2010, 05:51 PM	#7
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Different Season, Same Trap Without knowing who will play on the o-line I find it impossible to speculate too much. However, I will say that Shanny's system will be far more familiar than new to McNabb. Reid's Philly offensive concepts are not dissimilar. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

04-08-2010, 05:52 PM	#9
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Different Season, Same Trap I don't know if it's the same trap. I was kind of skeptical about this news at first. But, taking a step back, there are plenty of differences with this situation. When we got Mark Brunell, he had came off a serious injury and hadn't played a lot of football. McNabb was fairly healthy last year, and still has a strong arm. McNabb holds all of the passing records in Philly (yes I know it's Philly!) He's gotten to a Super Bowl and he's one Super Bowl win away from probably being a hall of fame QB. Plus, I think we're getting him a bit younger than what we had gotten Brunell (I think, right?) It's the same offense he's used to playing in. He won't have to throw nearly as much each game as he did in Philly. Really, it's not a question about McNabb at all...it's the offensive line. That really will decide if the Redskins are a 10 win team this coming season or will they be .500 or below. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

04-08-2010, 05:54 PM	#10
Player_HTTR Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 328	Re: Different Season, Same Trap So far he is making a good impression on the people he throws to.

04-08-2010, 06:01 PM	#11
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: Different Season, Same Trap I believe the first half of the season we may struggle with the adjustments to the new system/scheme. The second half should be better. Overall we're probably looking at 8-8 or 9-7. (with the obligatory "injury-free" caveat). Looking at our schedule and making assumptions (we all know what happens when you ass-u-me): Eagles - W & L Cowboys - W & L Giants - W & L Colts - L Bucs - W Rams - W Texans - ? Bears - W Packers - ? Vikes - L Lions - W Jags - ? Titans - ? I expect McNabb to be in-line with his last three years: 3500-3600 yards / 22TD / 9INT / 61% comp / 2-3 TD rushing __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

04-08-2010, 06:07 PM	#12
47FAN Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: 757 Posts: 685	Re: Different Season, Same Trap i felt the same way when it first happen but mcnabb has seemed to mesh really good so far. maybe 10-6 and avg stats

04-08-2010, 06:08 PM	#13
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: Different Season, Same Trap If we get Okung, 10-6. If we can get either Bulaga or Campbell from maryland, and B. marshall, 11-5, possibly 12-4. Now who says Im not a fan????

04-08-2010, 06:11 PM	#14
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: Different Season, Same Trap Seriously tho, assuming we make a substantial upgrade at RT and LT, barring injuries, I think 9-7 - 11-5 is definitely possible. You gotta think we'll sweep the iggles, and of course the cowgirls also!!!!

04-08-2010, 06:12 PM	#15
sandtrapjack The Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,994	Re: Different Season, Same Trap 16-0! Httr!

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