Worst Redskins QB in the past 20 years

Paintrain · 11-09-2004, 01:37 PM

I was doing some thinking and reading (I'm bored at work today) about our QB situation and was people to weigh in on the worst starting QB (more than 2 starts) we have had over the past 20 years.

In order of patheticness I would like to offer:
1. Heath Shuler
2. Mark Brunell
3. Danny Wuerffel
4. Cary Conklin (I don't know if he fit the 2 start criteria, but he was horrid)
5. Gary Hogeboom (ah, the Richie Pettibon era)
6. Tony Banks
7. Shane Matthews
8. Stan Humphries (although he led the Chargers to a SB, he sucked in WAS)
9. Jeff George
10. Gus Frerotte (the head butt alone puts him on the list)

Thoughts, additions, ommissions?

d151b · 11-09-2004, 01:50 PM

you put heath shuler above brunell? really?

d151b · 11-09-2004, 02:04 PM

+----------+--------------------------+----------------+
| WK OPP | CMP ATT PYD TD INT | RSH YD TD |
+----------+--------------------------+----------------+
| 1 | 5 12 47 0 1 | 0 0 0 |
| 10 | 1 5 4 0 2 | 0 0 0 |
| 12 | 10 12 98 1 2 | 0 0 0 |
| 13 | 12 27 164 0 1 | 4 13 0 |
| 14 | 11 24 154 1 0 | 9 21 0 |
| 15 | 17 32 175 0 1 | 5 23 0 |
| 16 | 10 13 103 1 0 | 2 -7 0 |
+----------+--------------------------+----------------+
| TOTAL | 66 125 745 3 7 | 20 50 0 |
+----------+--------------------------+----------------+
2005 season stats (heath shuler)
i guess he was pretty d@mn bad. but he was a rookie.... brunell is supposed to be the saavy vet.

Just take a look at Brunell's career.
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...nMa00.htm#2004

Then take a look at PRam's. The two QB's beginning is pretty similar except for the mobility of Brunell.
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...sPa00.htm#2003

Ramsey has to start NOW!! Why Brunell keeps getting the nod from Joe and Co. is beyond me.

Redskins8588 · 11-09-2004, 02:04 PM

I agree that Tony Banks should be on the list but not at #6, maybe #10. I mean think about it, he wasnt great but he was better than Jeff George, Matthews, Frerotte, and Humpheries. Tony did what was asked of him, and if you remember that season George was fired after his second game, and Tony at least played us to an 8-8 season. They others I am pretty sure had loosing seasons for us.

d151b · 11-09-2004, 02:05 PM

those were shuler's 1995 stats, sorry

Paintrain · 11-09-2004, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d151b

you put heath shuler above brunell? really?

To be honest, I went back and forth between the two of them.. I put Shuler because he was young and never got better. I think Brunell was damaged goods when we got him.

d151b · 11-09-2004, 02:24 PM

i hear ya. i still sport my shuler jersey to this day! lol

Drift Reality · 11-09-2004, 02:24 PM

I think we should take into account the management decisions when thinking abour Brunell and Shuler.

We drafted Shuler with a top-five pick; but we traded a 3rd rounder and signed Brunell to an 8.6 million dollar signing bonus.

Which hurts us more?

I think in some ways, Shuler does - considering we could have gotten a blue-chip prospect with that pick, and also, we began to look at him as a savior.

The cap room hurts with Brunell, but no one had huge expectations about him and are definately not building the team around him.

aehs77 · 11-09-2004, 02:25 PM

I definately think jeff george should be on there

ZackMills · 11-09-2004, 02:39 PM

Great call by Gibbie to go out and get a terrible terrible QB for a huge sum of money and a trade pick....assclown!

Paintrain · 11-09-2004, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZackMills

Great call by Gibbie to go out and get a terrible terrible QB for a huge sum of money and a trade pick....assclown!

Dude, do you make the effort to make an ass of yourself or does it come naturally?

ArringtonRules · 11-09-2004, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZackMills

Great call by Gibbie to go out and get a terrible terrible QB for a huge sum of money and a trade pick....assclown!

Nice sarcasm!! Does it really matter how much we moan and complain about how BAD and AWFUL brunell is? Gibbs is gonna start him no matter.. He did the same thing when theisman was playing bad, the only thing that saved him was the fact that he got injured!!
I have enormous respect for Gibbs, but this is too much for me to bear. Even he has acknowledged that he has no faith in brunells arm or QBing talent, but still remains stubborn enough to stick with him.. THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!
Does he have anything against Ramsey? Ramsey is the future, so he acknowledges but yet he is not willing to see what that future holds.. with brunell our offense is very one dimensional.. e'body knows he can't throw even if his life depended on it..
I don't see us making the playoffs, so why not see what Ramsey can do and whether he is the future or not..
Will that's enough ranting from me..
HTTR!!

SmootSmack · 11-09-2004, 04:05 PM

I don't remember Hogeboom playing for the Redskins. I thought it was Rich Gannon during Petitbon's year

Paintrain · 11-09-2004, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smootsmack

I don't remember Hogeboom playing for the Redskins. I thought it was Rich Gannon during Petitbon's year

You know what, Hogeboom wasn't during Pettibon's year. Hogeboom played in a playoff game for the Redskins back in the early to mid 80's. I couldn't edit the posting..

BrunellFan · 11-09-2004, 04:43 PM

I dont think Banks should be on this list at all-

he was 8-6 as a starter.
He didnt lose games for us.
If it wasnt that that fucking fake punt vs the Bears we probably a playoff team that year.

11-09-2004, 02:04 PM	#4
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	I agree that Tony Banks should be on the list but not at #6, maybe #10. I mean think about it, he wasnt great but he was better than Jeff George, Matthews, Frerotte, and Humpheries. Tony did what was asked of him, and if you remember that season George was fired after his second game, and Tony at least played us to an 8-8 season. They others I am pretty sure had loosing seasons for us. __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

11-09-2004, 02:24 PM	#8
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	I think we should take into account the management decisions when thinking abour Brunell and Shuler. We drafted Shuler with a top-five pick; but we traded a 3rd rounder and signed Brunell to an 8.6 million dollar signing bonus. Which hurts us more? I think in some ways, Shuler does - considering we could have gotten a blue-chip prospect with that pick, and also, we began to look at him as a savior. The cap room hurts with Brunell, but no one had huge expectations about him and are definately not building the team around him. __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

11-09-2004, 04:05 PM	#13
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I don't remember Hogeboom playing for the Redskins. I thought it was Rich Gannon during Petitbon's year __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-09-2004, 04:43 PM	#15
BrunellFan Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 334	I dont think Banks should be on this list at all- he was 8-6 as a starter. He didnt lose games for us. If it wasnt that that fucking fake punt vs the Bears we probably a playoff team that year. __________________ RIP Mark

11-09-2004, 01:37 PM	#1
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Worst Redskins QB in the past 20 years I was doing some thinking and reading (I'm bored at work today) about our QB situation and was people to weigh in on the worst starting QB (more than 2 starts) we have had over the past 20 years. In order of patheticness I would like to offer: 1. Heath Shuler 2. Mark Brunell 3. Danny Wuerffel 4. Cary Conklin (I don't know if he fit the 2 start criteria, but he was horrid) 5. Gary Hogeboom (ah, the Richie Pettibon era) 6. Tony Banks 7. Shane Matthews 8. Stan Humphries (although he led the Chargers to a SB, he sucked in WAS) 9. Jeff George 10. Gus Frerotte (the head butt alone puts him on the list) Thoughts, additions, ommissions?

11-09-2004, 01:50 PM	#2
d151b Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 157	you put heath shuler above brunell? really?

11-09-2004, 02:05 PM	#5
d151b Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 157	those were shuler's 1995 stats, sorry

11-09-2004, 02:25 PM	#9
aehs77 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: silver spring Age: 39 Posts: 486	I definately think jeff george should be on there

11-09-2004, 02:39 PM	#10
ZackMills Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 176	Great call by Gibbie to go out and get a terrible terrible QB for a huge sum of money and a trade pick....assclown!

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