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07-22-2010, 10:45 AM | #1 | |
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07-22-2010, 12:44 PM | #2 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Why does no one talk about Torain when they talk about our running backs? Shanny was going to start him in Denver before he got hurt.
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07-22-2010, 12:55 PM | #3 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
haha...ouch, one of the more searing negative articles I've read about the Redskins' rebuilding process.
Oh well, nothing to say except that hopefully this guy will be added to the list of believers after this upcoming season.
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07-22-2010, 01:06 PM | #4 | |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
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Bartel and Torain....we'll rule the world Lotus!
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07-22-2010, 01:06 PM | #5 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Yeah, that was rough. The worst part is that it seemed to be well-researched and hard to argue with. Then teams have seemingly come out of nowhere to have great seasons before so maybe it will happen again.
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07-22-2010, 01:16 PM | #6 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
or at the mid point of this season Rbaner.
He does mention Torian in the longer version of the article. He believes that he will be the teams leading rusher.
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07-22-2010, 01:35 PM | #7 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Wow. Well what can you expect? No one is going to go out on a limb and say the Skins will finish second in the division.
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07-22-2010, 02:24 PM | #8 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Or first for that matter, especially writers in N.Y., Philly, and Dallas.........
I think we have earned the right to be overlooked. Hopefully we will buck that trend this year. |
07-22-2010, 02:37 PM | #9 | |
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I've said it before and will again: I think I'm rooting for Torain more than any other player.
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07-22-2010, 02:38 PM | #10 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
It's kinda hard to argue against this article. While it is nice to know that the front office has improved and a moron like Vinny is not running the show, there are a lot of things that need to fall in place in order for our team to succeed.
I must say though, that I was surprised to not see any criticism on the change of defensive scheme to the 3-4 (or maybe I miss it). Once again though, I'm hoping for the best.
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07-22-2010, 03:42 PM | #11 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
I agree Ruh, it is difficult to argue against the article but it seems rather generic in following the Skins-bash formula of writers. Point out Snyder's shortcomings as an owner, talk about the age of the team (ignoring that the Saints were one of the NFL's oldest teams last year-age is overrated), talk about the middling WR group being less than what McNabb had in Philly, talk about the OL weaknesses from '09 and of course the obligatory Haynesworth commentary. Blah, blah, blah.
I'd love to see a national writer talk about the value of a winning pedigree with Shanahan and McNabb and the positives they bring. Talk about how even in the midst of the Zorn debacle the team was in all but about 4 games last year so there is talent here. It also amazes me that Portis, Johnson and Parker are 'worn down' but no-one mentions Marion Barber & Brandon Jacobs fading badly the past 2 seasons. Felix Jones is fast but fragile and what has McCoy proven in Philly? Nobody will confuse our trio with young and spry but are they ready for the retirement home like most writers seem to think? The article isn't wrong factually nor is it overly biased against us, just kinda lazy.
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07-22-2010, 03:56 PM | #12 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
It's wrong from the first line. Snyder is taking a new hands-off approach. Losing Vinny was also a huge change for the organization.
Shanahan and Allen are transforming this team, addressing needs that were long ignored (O-line, True Franchise QB) and making changes we've never seen before (3-4 defense). This is a path we've never traveled down before. Sure, there is the alleged similarity to the "Over the Hill Gang", but not entirely, as we have a good young core of young players as well as experienced. Where we could not fill gaps with rookies and young talent with upside, we've plugged with proven vets. Of course, it is the NY Times, tough to take their sports analysis seriously. It's also easy for any media source to just recycle the same annual arguments and insults against the Redskins and Dan Snyder. If they were REALLY paying attention like we do as fans, they'd see a completely new path and attitude at Redskins Park.
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07-22-2010, 04:09 PM | #13 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Season starts we look good all these reporters will change there story and say I told you they were going to be good nobody polices them. Lets see how we look in Pre-season then lets talk.
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07-22-2010, 04:16 PM | #14 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
It's a good read. Addresses concerns while also acknowledging positive changes. I mean they do say they expect us to be the most improved team in the division, but we have a long climb up.
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07-22-2010, 04:43 PM | #15 |
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Hey...at this point, I don't want people to prognosticate 10-11 wins and then have teams gearing up for us. I would rather we take this year as a learning opportunity and sneak up on some squads who aren't expecting it.
At this point (given all the changes), it's better to be a dark horse than the frontrunner
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