Things Are Bad All Over?

[sportscurmudgeon]

The Redskins need to upgrade their offensive line. I doubt too many folks here would say the current roster incumbents are plenty good and there is no need there.

The Redskins' drafting history has been "spotty". I doubt too many folks would take great issue with that either.

Well, it isn't as if Washington fans are all alone in that world. Here is Steve Rosenbloom of the Chicago Tribune with his view of the Bears' OL and their drafting prowess.


Rosenblog | Chicago Tribune | Blog

[See posting on 1 Feb 2011]

[Monkeydad]

We can disregard drafting history. Our draft-monkey has left the building.

[Dirtbag59]

I said it before early in the year but it's worth saying again. The Bears built their team exactly the same way as the Redskins, yet somehow ended up in the NFC Championship. I guess part of that is they matched their big name QB acquisition with the right coach but other then that we're pretty damn similar. Big contract to a defensive lineman, draftpicks for someone elses QB, top notch MLB, porus OL, big name coach, Beat the Packers, etc.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I said it before early in the year but it's worth saying again. The Bears built their team exactly the same way as the Redskins, yet somehow ended up in the NFC Championship. I guess part of that is they matched their big name QB acquisition with the right coach but other then that we're pretty damn similar. Big contract to a defensive lineman, draftpicks for someone elses QB, top notch MLB, porus OL, big name coach, Beat the Packers, etc.

Jack Kent Cooke has cursed the team....LOL!

[Dirtbag59]

Also I love the shots the author takes at Deion and MJD.

The NFL Network’s Deion Sanders said he’s not backing off his criticism of Cutler for not finishing the NFC Championship Game because of injury. This, mind you, even though Sanders admits Cutler might actually be hurt. By the way, the facts indicate Cutler suffered a Grade II tear of the medial collateral ligament in his left knee at the start of the second quarter against Green Bay.

No matter. Sanders is piddling on the trees marked “lame’’ and “embarrassing’’ to mark his territory based on the perception that Cutler wasn’t hurt.

“There’s reality and there’s perception,’’ Sanders said, and I’m thinking, yeah, there’s the perception that Sanders has a brain and then there’s the reality that Sanders is an utter moron for flatly refusing to ignore the reality that Cutler got injured, played through it in the second quarter, tried to play again after halftime, and ultimately came out diagnosed with a tear in his knee.

Same goes for Maurice Jones-Drew. He fired the first Tweet from his couch after missing the last two games of the season for his playoff-challenging Jaguars -- who’s toughness should be in question here? -- but wait, kids, it gets dumber.

Jones-Drew said he was trying to take a shot at Florida and former coach Urban Meyer as he used “quit’’ and “Cutler’’ in the same message. Even after learning what we call “facts’’ in my country, and even after seeing how dopey he looked, Jones-Drew said he wouldn’t apologize.

Tell you what, people, the NFL doesn’t realize how deep its concussion issues run.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I said it before early in the year but it's worth saying again. The Bears built their team exactly the same way as the Redskins, yet somehow ended up in the NFC Championship. I guess part of that is they matched their big name QB acquisition with the right coach but other then that we're pretty damn similar. Big contract to a defensive lineman, draftpicks for someone elses QB, top notch MLB, porus OL, big name coach, Beat the Packers, etc.

Maybe the Bears have done a better job at making sure their priced free agents actually work out. We don't have a good track record of doing that. Also, the Bears did draft a number of their key players like Kreutz (I know their o-line is porous, but he's been a Pro Bowl center for the past couple seasons), Urlacher, Briggs, Tommie Harris, etc. etc. Also they've done a pretty decent job in recent drafts (Hester, Forte, Knox).

[tryfuhl]

I wouldn't exactly call our acquisitions similar. Some of the same spots, sure... same level players? Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Maybe the Bears have done a better job at making sure their priced free agents actually work out. We don't have a good track record of doing that. Also, the Bears did draft a number of their key players like Kreutz (I know their o-line is porous, but he's been a Pro Bowl center for the past couple seasons), Urlacher, Briggs, Tommie Harries, etc. etc. Also they've done a pretty decent job in recent drafts (Hester, Forte, Knox, and Aromashadu).

Could have sworn we had Aromashadu and cut him

A couple of years ago I wanted us to draft Craig Steltz, Zack Bowman, Earl Bennett, Marcus Harrison (and the following year Edwin Williams)....who would have known they'd all be Bears today

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Could have sworn we had Aromashadu and cut him

A couple of years ago I wanted us to draft Craig Steltz, Zack Bowman, Earl Bennett, Marcus Harrison (and the following year Edwin Williams)....who would have known they'd all be Bears today

You are correct, and he was drafted by the Dolphins. I don't know why I included him there.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Maybe the Bears have done a better job at making sure their priced free agents actually work out. We don't have a good track record of doing that. Also, the Bears did draft a number of their key players like Kreutz (I know their o-line is porous, but he's been a Pro Bowl center for the past couple seasons), Urlacher, Briggs, Tommie Harris, etc. etc. Also they've done a pretty decent job in recent drafts (Hester, Forte, Knox).

I should point out that the Redskins-Bears comparison is more of a poor attempt at comedy on my part rather than actual hard hitting analysis.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I wouldn't exactly call our acquisitions similar. Some of the same spots, sure... same level players? Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

Brandon Lloyd
Adam Archuletta
Todd Collins

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I should point out that the Redskins-Bears comparison is more of a poor attempt at comedy on my part rather than actual hard hitting analysis.

I am glad you said that. I was about to say something.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I should point out that the Redskins-Bears comparison is more of a poor attempt at comedy on my part rather than actual hard hitting analysis.

Back in the day of JLC at RI on the post, he did a comarison of the Bears to the Skins to point out how different the bears approach was; they valued draft picks & placed emphasis on re-signing their own players. Of course that was before they shelled out picks for Cutler & big $ for Peppers.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Jack Kent Cooke has cursed the team....LOL!

They could have called it Fed-X field at Jack Kent Cook stadium. I sure do miss him I remember working at Radio Shack the day it happened i put all the tv's on the channel, pulled up a chair and just sat there.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I said it before early in the year but it's worth saying again. The Bears built their team exactly the same way as the Redskins, yet somehow ended up in the NFC Championship. I guess part of that is they matched their big name QB acquisition with the right coach but other then that we're pretty damn similar. Big contract to a defensive lineman, draftpicks for someone elses QB, top notch MLB, porus OL, big name coach, Beat the Packers, etc.

While the Haynesworth and Peppers signings are superficially similar, the Bears didn't sign Peppers with the idea that they would plug him in somewhere and hope. The Bears had a coaching staff that really, truly understands it's defensive scheme, and so when they signed Peppers, they released Alex Brown and opted not to resign Adewale Ogunleye.

Those were eye opening moves, but in hindsight, somewhat necessary to make sure Peppers could succeed in the scheme. When we signed Haynesworth, we didn't release Griffin or Phillip Daniels or something similar, we dropped the one guy who might have benefitted from Haynesworth the most (Jason Taylor) for $8 million dollars of cap space. [Although we were in cap hell and needed that $8 million to have a draft.]

Our coaches didn't understand defense very well (and we still don't have coaches as good as the Bears coaches, which is why the 2010 Haynesworth thing happened).

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I should point out that the Redskins-Bears comparison is more of a poor attempt at comedy on my part rather than actual hard hitting analysis.

Noted for accuracy.