The all-overrated team

Redskins8588 · 12-15-2004, 10:55 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3244196

There are 2 redskins on this list
Samules
Arrington

What are your thoughts on this list?

I am not sure if I buy into Arrington, but that is just me...

gibbsisgod · 12-15-2004, 11:29 PM

I Can See Thier Argument For Both Samuels And Arrington

Daseal · 12-16-2004, 12:57 AM

Hard to call a man over-rated that's played two games. In the past I could see it though. He's a great player, but likes to over-pursue and "freelance."

jamf · 12-16-2004, 01:02 AM

man i agree with everyting the guy said. i wish they had added warren sapp to the list

offiss · 12-16-2004, 02:11 AM

I have been saying Lavar is the most overated player in football for over a year now, this guy was dead on about Samuels he's a lazy player there is no fire in his game, I didn't agree with all his assessment's like Pettigote OVERATED? Who actually said he could play to begin with? Urlacher? Maybe he's not as great as everybody makes out but he is still pretty good what MLB doesn't need tackles to keep the O-linemen off of him even Ray Lewis need's big guy's on the inside, I think their splitting hair's on a few of those guy's, if your going to put Woodson, and Bly, in there than you have to put Champ, no way Champ is as good as he's made out to be.

aehs77 · 12-16-2004, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

man i agree with everyting the guy said. i wish they had added warren sapp to the list

warren sap was on the list

illdefined · 12-16-2004, 02:27 AM

maybe no defensive coordinator has stayed in DC long enough to leave an impression on LaVar. seems pretty likely. we all need to cross our fingers for Williams not to leave us.

offiss · 12-16-2004, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

maybe no defensive coordinator has stayed in DC long enough to leave an impression on LaVar. seems pretty likely. we all need to cross our fingers for Williams not to leave us.

I think we are secure with Williams he is still fairly young and my thought is Snyder and Gibb's have promised to make him head coach when Gibb's deciedes to step down.

WRedskins04 · 12-16-2004, 08:18 AM

He didnt do so good with the bills does anyone know how long he was with the bill even a DC or Oc.Cause if Gibbs is coach for a while longer Williams can learn from him and he will be just like him when hes coach

MTK · 12-16-2004, 09:14 AM

I agree with the entire list for the most part.

Urlacher is definitely way overhyped.

As for Arrington and Samuels, yeah I'll buy it.

But who's responsible for the overhyping? Funny how the media loves to build people up and at the same time they love to break 'em down.

I'm surprised Champ didn't make the list.

MTK · 12-16-2004, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

man i agree with everyting the guy said. i wish they had added warren sapp to the list

He's on there

Daseal · 12-16-2004, 09:18 AM

For whoever said WIlliams didn't do well in Buffalo. His defense was still awesome. As long as he can get someone to run the offense. A well known coach (by then, who knows) but all of us know Snyder is willing to spend the cash to get the best offensive mind in here!

Defensewins · 12-16-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

...... Urlacher? Maybe he's not as great as everybody makes out but he is still pretty good what MLB doesn't need tackles to keep the O-linemen off of him even Ray Lewis need's big guy's on the inside, I think their splitting hair's on a few of those guy's, .....

It is true Urlacher is the second best MLB in the NFL. But Ray Lewis is head and shoulders better MLB than Urlacher. Ray Lewis is a complete MLB (has all the tools). Urlacher is great in the open field, great speed and skills guy, but lacks the toughness/physical strength in the in small space. I have seen Urlacher get picked up and moved by top offensive lineman. I have never seen Ray Lewis or Arrington (for that matter) get dominated by an offensive lineman.
That is Urlacher's ONLY weakness. Other than that he is great.
The only reason Urlacher is the NFL's poster child for MLB's is Ray Lewis got caught up in that whole Superbowl mess where some guy got killed. Lewis was lucky he did not end up in jail. Since then though Lewis has been a good about not hanging with the wrong crowd. But damage was already done to his public image.

Redskins_P · 12-16-2004, 10:31 AM

wheres Champ on this list?

irish · 12-16-2004, 10:37 AM

I agree totally about LA. He is a good LB but not the great gamebreaker that I think everyone expected.

12-15-2004, 10:55 PM	#1
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	The all-overrated team http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3244196 There are 2 redskins on this list Samules Arrington What are your thoughts on this list? I am not sure if I buy into Arrington, but that is just me... __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

12-15-2004, 11:29 PM	#2
gibbsisgod Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 129 W 81st street Age: 45 Posts: 3,503	I Can See Thier Argument For Both Samuels And Arrington

12-16-2004, 12:57 AM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Hard to call a man over-rated that's played two games. In the past I could see it though. He's a great player, but likes to over-pursue and "freelance."

12-16-2004, 01:02 AM	#4
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,323	man i agree with everyting the guy said. i wish they had added warren sapp to the list

12-16-2004, 02:11 AM	#5
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	I have been saying Lavar is the most overated player in football for over a year now, this guy was dead on about Samuels he's a lazy player there is no fire in his game, I didn't agree with all his assessment's like Pettigote OVERATED? Who actually said he could play to begin with? Urlacher? Maybe he's not as great as everybody makes out but he is still pretty good what MLB doesn't need tackles to keep the O-linemen off of him even Ray Lewis need's big guy's on the inside, I think their splitting hair's on a few of those guy's, if your going to put Woodson, and Bly, in there than you have to put Champ, no way Champ is as good as he's made out to be.

12-16-2004, 02:27 AM	#7
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	maybe no defensive coordinator has stayed in DC long enough to leave an impression on LaVar. seems pretty likely. we all need to cross our fingers for Williams not to leave us.

12-16-2004, 08:18 AM	#9
WRedskins04 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 37	He didnt do so good with the bills does anyone know how long he was with the bill even a DC or Oc.Cause if Gibbs is coach for a while longer Williams can learn from him and he will be just like him when hes coach

12-16-2004, 09:14 AM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,568	I agree with the entire list for the most part. Urlacher is definitely way overhyped. As for Arrington and Samuels, yeah I'll buy it. But who's responsible for the overhyping? Funny how the media loves to build people up and at the same time they love to break 'em down. I'm surprised Champ didn't make the list.

12-16-2004, 09:18 AM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	For whoever said WIlliams didn't do well in Buffalo. His defense was still awesome. As long as he can get someone to run the offense. A well known coach (by then, who knows) but all of us know Snyder is willing to spend the cash to get the best offensive mind in here!

12-16-2004, 10:31 AM	#14
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	wheres Champ on this list?

12-16-2004, 10:37 AM	#15
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	I agree totally about LA. He is a good LB but not the great gamebreaker that I think everyone expected.

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