Patriots Swim With the Fishes (Mammals)

[SmootSmack]

Anyone watch MNF?

Derrius Thompson! (yes, the same one) scored what proved to be the game winning TD with a little under 2 minutes left to lead the Dolphins to an upset over the Patriots.

[FRPLG]

guess anything can happen then huh?

[skin4Life28]

That was a good MNF game. I was really dissapointed in Brady's performance. I just love watching a qb that knows everything around him and can find the opwn reciever. Give me Brady over Manning any day.

[irish]

I dont think anyone up there cares because the Sox won The Series.

[Gmanc711]

I've been waiting to say this for one of our games all year "AND THATS! WHY THEY PLAY THE GAME!"

[SKINSnCANES]

man Brady blew that game. all they had to do was keep handing it off to Dillon and then punt it away.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by skin4Life28

That was a good MNF game. I was really dissapointed in Brady's performance. I just love watching a qb that knows everything around him and can find the opwn reciever. Give me Brady over Manning any day.

Manning is the best at this in the game. If you want to take Brady based on winning percentage and some type of intangibles then no one can argue but if you think for one moment that Tom Brady is even close in terms of passing skills, preparation and game presence to Peyton Manning you are crazy. Manning knows his offense better than any QB since Montana in SF. He holds superior arm strength and his accuracy is the best in the league. His short comings actually work for him in that his lack of mobility probably forced him to become a better pocket passer. Put Manning in New England and they go undefeated for the last two years. Hell, probably three or four years.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Manning is the best at this in the game. If you want to take Brady based on winning percentage and some type of intangibles then no one can argue but if you think for one moment that Tom Brady is even close in terms of passing skills, preparation and game presence to Peyton Manning you are crazy. Manning knows his offense better than any QB since Montana in SF. He holds superior arm strength and his accuracy is the best in the league. His short comings actually work for him in that his lack of mobility probably forced him to become a better pocket passer. Put Manning in New England and they go undefeated for the last two years. Hell, probably three or four years.

I'm not too sure about that. Not that I have doubts in Manning - he has absolute command of his offense, and is surrounded by some of the best skill players in the league. One intangible on his side is the dome, though. It's a lot easier to run the precise routes his offense demands when you are doing it on carpet.

His role in that offense is perfect. I believe he would be diminished in another system. The Joe Montana has been made that he was perfect for the West Coast Offense, and that was the key to his greatness. Would he have been among history's best in the "Run-and-Shoot", or a more traditional grind-it-out offense? Maybe, maybe not.

Most of the players in this league have athletic abilities that transcend what we can comprehend (not so fast, Brunell). The trick is either being in the system that highlights them, which Manning or Montana have had, or having a coaching staff that shapes his offense to the talents around him - a hallmark of Joe Gibbs in his first tenure with the Redskins. I'm hopeful that the improvement we've seen has been the result of three things:

• The players becoming comfortable with Coach Gibbs
• Coach Gibbs becoming comfortable with his players, and
• The adjustment to the speed and talent level of today's NFL.

Time will tell if I'm as smart as I think I am.

[Daseal]

Manning calls his own plays (from a list of three) and is able to read defenses better than anyone in the league. That being said, I don't think he'd be as successfull in NE. Brady is good at running Weis's offense, whereas Peyton makes a lot of oppurtunities in calling his own offense.

[RedskinRat]

Has Manning won a Super Bowl? A Super Bowl MVP? OK, so the best QB is still Brady by results.

[BossHog]

The new illegal contact/pass interference rules may have well been dubbed the Manning-Harrison rule. What's hard to believe is that all along we've said 'defense wins championships'. You guys aren't changing your story are you?