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offiss · 01-02-2005, 09:32 PM

It look's like our little victory today cost us at least 6 spot's in the draft order we will be picking 11th, I guess all that momentum we created today for next year will be worth it though.

Cush · 01-02-2005, 09:38 PM

6-10 and picking 11th? wow, lots of bad teams this years

Drift Reality · 01-02-2005, 09:42 PM

I think that's fine - at least it will end all the discussions of us drafting Mike Williams.

The DEs in the first round are all supposed to go between 11-20 anyway.

JoeRedskin · 01-02-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

I guess all that momentum we created today for next year will be worth it though.

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

If sarcastic, sorry - I think it's BS to lose a game to move up 5 slots. The draft is crapshoot at best (Ben Rothlesberger anyone?) Cultivating an attitude that it is important to win every game, every quarter, every play even if nothing appears to be on the line is much much more important.

5 or six plays separated us from being a 9-7 or 10-6 team. Play every moment to win. It's the only way to prepare for winning when you absolutely have to.

If you were being serious - please pardon my rant.

jdlea · 01-02-2005, 10:09 PM

I think losing today would have been the better option. It does nothing. We didn't play spoiler to Minnesota. It apparently created contreversy as to the starting RB should be. (That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard) And it dropped us in the draft. Who cares?

Big C · 01-02-2005, 10:16 PM

i care because i like to see the redskins win, and the players like to win i would hope.

jrocx69 · 01-02-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I think losing today would have been the better option. It does nothing. We didn't play spoiler to Minnesota. It apparently created contreversy as to the starting RB should be. (That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard) And it dropped us in the draft. Who cares?

i guess we found a true skins fan here, LMAO

MTK · 01-02-2005, 10:47 PM

I'm never going to complain about a win, even when it costs us some draft spots.

jdlea · 01-02-2005, 10:49 PM

I am a Redskins fan, but my patience with this team is wearing thin. I am a fan of the entire NFL, but the Redskins are my favorite team. I look at the big picture. I was cheering my ass off today and I was happy that they won. In retrospect, however, all it did was hurt them. I think I heard something about the Arizona Cardinals last season that I would say applies to the Redskins "they're so bad they can't even lose the right games." If not trying to put a smile on everything this team does is not being a true Skins fan then I wear it as a badge of honor. Was I happy they won? Yes. Do I think it was a good thing? Not particularly. It didn't help and who cares if you end the season with a win if is only your 6th.

MTK · 01-02-2005, 11:03 PM

I agree one meaningless win in week 17 doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme and I'm not saying today eases the pain of the season in the least bit. Given the choice though, I feel much better ending the season the way we did than if we just rolled over today and got smoked 35-10.

The team over the course of the season has shown a ton of heart and fight, and it never decreased even when times got tough and when the team pretty much knew they were out of it. The character of the team was tested this year, and they reacted in the way a Gibbs team reacts, they fight and scrap til the very end.

This season helped weed out the non-core Skins, and helped shine the light on guys Gibbs knows he can go to war with next year and build the foundation of the team upon.

6-10 is what it is, it sucks. The naysayers will say that Gibbs had a bad year, and even some idiots will say he should be fired. I agree he's had a rough first season full of adjusting, and at times the 'new' NFL has hit him like a slap in the face. But what we can hang our hats on is the fact Gibbs is going to work his tail off to get this straightened out and on the right track.

The '04 season might have ended today, but the '05 season starts tomorrow for Gibbs.

Daseal · 01-02-2005, 11:22 PM

I feel Gibbs had a poor season, but as Matty said, it was a season for adjusting. That doesn't mean he won't figure it out. We had a lot of problems this year, but not once did I see the team give up like I have before. All of that credit lands directly on Gibbs shoulders. He's a great leader, I just hope he can get his playcalling and clock management skills to a quarter of what his leadership skills are - and we're going to the super bowl.

Bozzy · 01-03-2005, 01:15 AM

The higher your pick, the more cash you gotta shell out. 11th is fine.

Redskins8588 · 01-03-2005, 01:28 AM

I agree with Bozzy, if we are headed for cap trouble then why would you want a top 5 pick and have to shell out money which will only hurt us later on in the cap situation? Besides this win today does alot for the team as a whole!!

offiss · 01-03-2005, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I agree with Bozzy, if we are headed for cap trouble then why would you want a top 5 pick and have to shell out money which will only hurt us later on in the cap situation? Besides this win today does alot for the team as a whole!!

It's simple the higher the pick the more pick's you can deal down for, we need to deal down and draft linemen, 11th pick limit's our ability to do that.

offiss · 01-03-2005, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

If sarcastic, sorry - I think it's BS to lose a game to move up 5 slots. The draft is crapshoot at best (Ben Rothlesberger anyone?) Cultivating an attitude that it is important to win every game, every quarter, every play even if nothing appears to be on the line is much much more important.

5 or six plays separated us from being a 9-7 or 10-6 team. Play every moment to win. It's the only way to prepare for winning when you absolutely have to.

If you were being serious - please pardon my rant.

The draft is only a crapshoot to those who are incapable of evaluating talent, no need for a pardon I am absolutly serious, I play to win, and if losing will help me win that much quicker than by all mean's, I am not interested in bragging right's over a meaningless game that may cost us the kind of talent that may put us over the top, celebrating a meaningless win that cost's our team talent is like endzone dancing with 10 second's left in the game and your losing by 30 point's.

01-02-2005, 09:32 PM	#1
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Draft Order It look's like our little victory today cost us at least 6 spot's in the draft order we will be picking 11th, I guess all that momentum we created today for next year will be worth it though.

01-02-2005, 09:42 PM	#3
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	I think that's fine - at least it will end all the discussions of us drafting Mike Williams. The DEs in the first round are all supposed to go between 11-20 anyway. __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

01-02-2005, 10:16 PM	#6
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	i care because i like to see the redskins win, and the players like to win i would hope. __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

01-03-2005, 01:28 AM	#13
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	I agree with Bozzy, if we are headed for cap trouble then why would you want a top 5 pick and have to shell out money which will only hurt us later on in the cap situation? Besides this win today does alot for the team as a whole!! __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

01-02-2005, 09:38 PM	#2
Cush Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 963	6-10 and picking 11th? wow, lots of bad teams this years

01-02-2005, 10:09 PM	#5
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	I think losing today would have been the better option. It does nothing. We didn't play spoiler to Minnesota. It apparently created contreversy as to the starting RB should be. (That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard) And it dropped us in the draft. Who cares?

01-02-2005, 10:47 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I'm never going to complain about a win, even when it costs us some draft spots.

01-02-2005, 10:49 PM	#9
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	I am a Redskins fan, but my patience with this team is wearing thin. I am a fan of the entire NFL, but the Redskins are my favorite team. I look at the big picture. I was cheering my ass off today and I was happy that they won. In retrospect, however, all it did was hurt them. I think I heard something about the Arizona Cardinals last season that I would say applies to the Redskins "they're so bad they can't even lose the right games." If not trying to put a smile on everything this team does is not being a true Skins fan then I wear it as a badge of honor. Was I happy they won? Yes. Do I think it was a good thing? Not particularly. It didn't help and who cares if you end the season with a win if is only your 6th.

01-02-2005, 11:03 PM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I agree one meaningless win in week 17 doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme and I'm not saying today eases the pain of the season in the least bit. Given the choice though, I feel much better ending the season the way we did than if we just rolled over today and got smoked 35-10. The team over the course of the season has shown a ton of heart and fight, and it never decreased even when times got tough and when the team pretty much knew they were out of it. The character of the team was tested this year, and they reacted in the way a Gibbs team reacts, they fight and scrap til the very end. This season helped weed out the non-core Skins, and helped shine the light on guys Gibbs knows he can go to war with next year and build the foundation of the team upon. 6-10 is what it is, it sucks. The naysayers will say that Gibbs had a bad year, and even some idiots will say he should be fired. I agree he's had a rough first season full of adjusting, and at times the 'new' NFL has hit him like a slap in the face. But what we can hang our hats on is the fact Gibbs is going to work his tail off to get this straightened out and on the right track. The '04 season might have ended today, but the '05 season starts tomorrow for Gibbs.

01-02-2005, 11:22 PM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I feel Gibbs had a poor season, but as Matty said, it was a season for adjusting. That doesn't mean he won't figure it out. We had a lot of problems this year, but not once did I see the team give up like I have before. All of that credit lands directly on Gibbs shoulders. He's a great leader, I just hope he can get his playcalling and clock management skills to a quarter of what his leadership skills are - and we're going to the super bowl.

01-03-2005, 01:15 AM	#12
Bozzy The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 44 Posts: 1,034	The higher your pick, the more cash you gotta shell out. 11th is fine.

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