US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists

Hog1 · 10-11-2011, 10:49 PM

Definitely some...not Super Happy or Super Fun stuff......interesting nonetheless.

Mark Silverberg Wahhabism in the American Prison System | Analysis of Terrorism in America and Middle East

http://www.hsdl.org/?view&did=9102

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Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-12-2011, 10:39 AM

Great info. Hopefully more folks will wake up to this.

RedskinRat · 10-12-2011, 10:46 AM

If you're that pious how did you end up in jail? If you've come to your faith inside then test it by waiting until your release to embrace it.

Ban religion in jails.

Lotus · 10-12-2011, 10:54 AM

There are many, many Islamic clerics who denounce terrorism as unIslamic. For example, mainline Hanbali Muslim law states that jihad cannot include ordinary citizens nor can it include suicide.

So one sensible approach to this problem is to provide moderate clerics who will offer a mainstream rather than radical message in prisons.

SmootSmack · 10-12-2011, 11:16 AM

Uh oh Lotus...

mooby · 10-12-2011, 11:38 AM

Sigh. If it's not one thing it's another. I agree with Lotus in a sense. The voice these prisoners converting to Islam are mostly hearing is probably from radical Islam. We just need to ensure they hear more of a mainstream Islamic voice.

firstdown · 10-12-2011, 12:03 PM

Let them out of jail and drop them off in the middles east.

Lotus · 10-12-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Uh oh Lotus...

My proposal above was tried at Guantanamo.

saden1 · 10-12-2011, 12:31 PM

What are we going to do? Keep them in prison for spousing anti-American sentiment? Dedicate resources to monitor their activities after they get out? American prisons have always been training grounds for mischievous deviants. From these articles one thing is crystal clear to me, terrorism is a law enforcement issue not a military issue.

You can't control people's beliefs and will, only the way you live your life.

SmootSmack · 10-12-2011, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus

My proposal above was tried at Guantanamo.

Not what I meant by Uh Oh...you'll see

BleedBurgundy · 10-12-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

What are we going to do? Keep them in prison for spousing anti-American sentiment? Dedicate resources to monitor their activities after they get out? American prisons have always been training grounds for mischievous deviants. From these articles one thing is crystal clear to me, terrorism is a law enforcement issue not a military issue.

You can't control people's beliefs and will, only the way you live your life.

Exactly... let's try being a less shitty country with less shitty policy and then reap the rewards of less people wanting to blow us up.

Alvin Walton · 10-12-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Let them out of jail and drop them off in the middles east.

At 20,000 feet.

That Guy · 10-12-2011, 02:47 PM

well, the US prison system has always been a place where petty crooks go to become pros and network. A more work camp/vocational training type of system would at least allow those without means to be guaranteed some sort of skillset for an honest living, and those that don't want to behave... well, solitary or a prison factory line.

RedskinRat · 10-12-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not what I meant by Uh Oh...you'll see

I'll stay out of this one, my original point stands.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-12-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

From these articles one thing is crystal clear to me, terrorism is a law enforcement issue not a military issue.

Has to be a balanced approach. LE can't reach onto foreign soil to disrupt terrorist activities that are state sanctioned or sponsored. LIMITED (Spec Ops, etc.) military engagement has to be the answer here. There needs to be open intel at high levels between DoD & Federal LE community.

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You can't control people's beliefs and will, only the way you live your life.

Agree 100%.

10-11-2011, 10:49 PM	#1
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists Definitely some...not Super Happy or Super Fun stuff......interesting nonetheless. Mark Silverberg Wahhabism in the American Prison System \| Analysis of Terrorism in America and Middle East http://www.hsdl.org/?view&did=9102 Discover the Networks __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-12-2011, 10:39 AM	#2
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists Great info. Hopefully more folks will wake up to this. __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

10-12-2011, 10:46 AM	#3
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists If you're that pious how did you end up in jail? If you've come to your faith inside then test it by waiting until your release to embrace it. Ban religion in jails.

10-12-2011, 10:54 AM	#4
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists There are many, many Islamic clerics who denounce terrorism as unIslamic. For example, mainline Hanbali Muslim law states that jihad cannot include ordinary citizens nor can it include suicide. So one sensible approach to this problem is to provide moderate clerics who will offer a mainstream rather than radical message in prisons. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

10-12-2011, 11:16 AM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists Uh oh Lotus... __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-12-2011, 11:38 AM	#6
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,477	Re: US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists Sigh. If it's not one thing it's another. I agree with Lotus in a sense. The voice these prisoners converting to Islam are mostly hearing is probably from radical Islam. We just need to ensure they hear more of a mainstream Islamic voice. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-12-2011, 12:03 PM	#7
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists Let them out of jail and drop them off in the middles east.

10-12-2011, 12:31 PM	#9
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists What are we going to do? Keep them in prison for spousing anti-American sentiment? Dedicate resources to monitor their activities after they get out? American prisons have always been training grounds for mischievous deviants. From these articles one thing is crystal clear to me, terrorism is a law enforcement issue not a military issue. You can't control people's beliefs and will, only the way you live your life. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

10-12-2011, 02:47 PM	#13
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists well, the US prison system has always been a place where petty crooks go to become pros and network. A more work camp/vocational training type of system would at least allow those without means to be guaranteed some sort of skillset for an honest living, and those that don't want to behave... well, solitary or a prison factory line.

US Prisons training NEW Islamic Terrorists

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