Taylor or Winslow

ST21 · 03-13-2005, 01:45 AM

Come, where are my true Redskin Fans, Who think we've would have been better of with that Loud mouth Kellen Winslow Jr., I mean he come in camp late, at the Draft states that he will show the Redskins and the Lions for Passing on him, that they made a mistake, and then he breaks his leg....one way to keep him quiet, let me tell all you guys something, Sean Taylor, will be so good in the league, until he will be a perfect combination of Ronnie Lott, and Ed Reed, he will be a monster on the Field, so if you really wanted Winslow, then there's room at the Dog Pound for ya, holla back skin fans...

drew54 · 03-13-2005, 03:27 AM

KWII SUCKS. HE IS Total Bullshit Sean Is The Man. Forget About Kwii, Cooley Would Kick His Ass. Especially In Our Team First Mentality, Cooley Is A Team Player, Not A Me First Like Kwii.

Taylor For President!

azskinsfan2 · 03-13-2005, 11:18 AM

We definitely got the better end of the deal on this one. Sean Taylor did a great job as a rookie and will only get better. Cooley also did a great job and has become one of our offensive go to guys. Look to see them both be even better this season. KWII is just the type of person we don't need in a Skins uniform. I'm sure the Browns are glad they have him!!!

WRedskins04 · 03-13-2005, 11:25 AM

Hes 40-0 in wrestling at high school

skinsfanthru&thru · 03-13-2005, 11:37 AM

I was one fan who honestly would have been happy with either one. Taylor is going to be a huge impact player throughout his stay in DC, but just because Winslow 2 is a loud mouth immature punk right now, doesn't mean I wouldn't take him on the team if we had the oppurtunity. If he was a bit more mature, we wouldn't even be having this bashing of winslow because the guy has enormous god given talent especially for a TE. And u cannot compare cooley to winslow because they play 2 different positions(cooley=h-back/FB & winslow=TE/or even in the slot at WR) and I know I for one believe if we'd had both of those guys in our offense last year, things might have gone a bit differently. It definitely would have opened up some more possiblities of the WRs getting downfield. So enough with this winslow sucks crap until we actually see him play a full season to see if he was overhyped like his fellow cane shockey.

ST21 · 03-13-2005, 12:16 PM

that right, skinfan, until we see him play a full season, so until that happens, then we don't know, all I know is that he had the outburst at the U, where he claimed to be a soilder, hired the posten brothers, to be his agent, where there known, to give teams problems, and stated that he will be greater than his dad......so I'll blast him all i want until he becomes the pro bowler he claims to be.........

BigSKINBauer · 03-13-2005, 12:40 PM

Our defense was amazing and that was credit to our backfield and w/o taylor we were just not as good. In the Green Bay game it felt like we were giving up way to many big plays. We need him and he is big for the team. With that said we also needed more on the offensive end and KW would be an upgrade. We will never know how our team would be different but i like THIS offseason because it lost allittle on D and gained allittle on offense what we needed. That is in relation to the Taylor/ Wislow question, again not like we would ever know but would we be better overall if we had wislow someone who could be a force and be on the line. If we could trade would we most of us would say no because KW isn't proven in the NFL yet but it is to the question how much on D can we give up to still be good and how much would we gain on offense to be good ENOUGH

Daseal · 03-13-2005, 01:17 PM

Guys - Let's not bash Winslow too bad. He had a bad break (no pun intended) as far as injuries go. He's a special player and he IS better than Chris Cooley. Especially at the Hback position. Now, would I rather have Taylor and Cooley over Winslow and Sean Jones (safety browns got in the 3rd), absolutely. I love Taylor and I'd rather have him than Winslow, but Winslow is a playmaker and a great TE in this league.

Why do you guys like some loudmouths but hate others? Portis, Smoot, LaVar, all loud mouthed and annoying, yet you love them. How about Mr. Holdout Patrick Ramsey. Don't see anyone ripping him about it. What about Ray Lewis who never shuts up, most of you get on your knees and praise him as if he's a demi-god instead of the aging overrated LB he is. In his prime he was great, but no longer!

KWII is going to be a great player in this league assuming his injury didn't cripple him!

KWII didn't get arrested for DUI, KWII didn't play agent roulette, KWII didn't get a deal then complain about it, and KWII missed the rookie synopsis.

I'd still rather have Taylor, but KWII certainly isn't a BAD player.

MTK · 03-13-2005, 01:21 PM

KW hasn't proven anything yet except he can take a big hit (remember when he got clocked in that preseason game!).

I think he's going to be a great pro, but he hasn't done jack just yet.

BossHog · 03-13-2005, 02:43 PM

What happens when we sign Heath Miller? Sorry. I had to throw a wrench in the gears.

ST21 · 03-13-2005, 03:25 PM

Daseal, first of all Ray Lewis is not overrated that's stuid to say, second of all there's a difference when you have proven yourself in the league, and a qutoe "loud mouth, to someone who just got to the league, and bumping the gums about what there going to do....nutt ride KWII all you want but, you never know how his injury is going to affect him.....Taylor bottom line is and was the way to go......

wolfeskins · 03-13-2005, 04:07 PM

on last years draft day i would have been happy with either one but it's easy to say now who i'd rather have. winslow is probably going to be a very good te in the nfl but i'm glad the skins got taylor, he is a monster and only going to get better.

p.s. i can't stand ray lewis and yes, he is overrated.

ST21 · 03-13-2005, 04:15 PM

Ray Lewis is not overratted, that sounds like a little jealousy

wolfeskins · 03-13-2005, 04:21 PM

he's the 2nd most overrated player. the 1st being m.vick. and what in the hell does jealousy have to do with anything. please don't make retarded accusations.

diehardskin2982 · 03-13-2005, 05:04 PM

now, now folks keep it calm...

I like Taylor over Winslow because he brings a level of toughness in our secondary that wasn't there before. Wideouts are scared to catch the ball deep in his area because they know shawns gonna lay the wood on them. I know we all remember that play 2 years age when stephen davis punched in that td on us. It was the 1st year he was on the panthers, it was like he spit on the redskins organization as a whole... no one on that defense could stop him on that play (with the help of the refs).

I can safely tell you now that things like that won't happen any more to this team. did you see, I think it was the philly game, when a wide out was in the open field about to score a td and taylor layed his ass out on the 1, he wasn't able to get in. that to me was great because it made the statement that no matter who you are, its going to be hard to score on the skins we are noones bitch. offense wins games defenses win championships.

They'll be another great tight end, but not many people show that kind of heart and intensity that taylor shows on that field. How many players can you say actualy bitched TO of all people, I can name 1, number 36 of the burgundy and gold thats who! it great to have a badd guy on our team like harrison of the patriots and lynch of the broncos, players like that make the offensive players think twice about trying to move that rock.

03-13-2005, 01:45 AM	#1
ST21 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 519	Taylor or Winslow Come, where are my true Redskin Fans, Who think we've would have been better of with that Loud mouth Kellen Winslow Jr., I mean he come in camp late, at the Draft states that he will show the Redskins and the Lions for Passing on him, that they made a mistake, and then he breaks his leg....one way to keep him quiet, let me tell all you guys something, Sean Taylor, will be so good in the league, until he will be a perfect combination of Ronnie Lott, and Ed Reed, he will be a monster on the Field, so if you really wanted Winslow, then there's room at the Dog Pound for ya, holla back skin fans...

03-13-2005, 03:27 AM	#2
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: Taylor or Winslow KWII SUCKS. HE IS Total Bullshit Sean Is The Man. Forget About Kwii, Cooley Would Kick His Ass. Especially In Our Team First Mentality, Cooley Is A Team Player, Not A Me First Like Kwii. Taylor For President!

03-13-2005, 11:18 AM	#3
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 67 Posts: 232	Re: Taylor or Winslow We definitely got the better end of the deal on this one. Sean Taylor did a great job as a rookie and will only get better. Cooley also did a great job and has become one of our offensive go to guys. Look to see them both be even better this season. KWII is just the type of person we don't need in a Skins uniform. I'm sure the Browns are glad they have him!!! __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

03-13-2005, 11:25 AM	#4
WRedskins04 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 37	Re: Taylor or Winslow Hes 40-0 in wrestling at high school

03-13-2005, 11:37 AM	#5
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Re: Taylor or Winslow I was one fan who honestly would have been happy with either one. Taylor is going to be a huge impact player throughout his stay in DC, but just because Winslow 2 is a loud mouth immature punk right now, doesn't mean I wouldn't take him on the team if we had the oppurtunity. If he was a bit more mature, we wouldn't even be having this bashing of winslow because the guy has enormous god given talent especially for a TE. And u cannot compare cooley to winslow because they play 2 different positions(cooley=h-back/FB & winslow=TE/or even in the slot at WR) and I know I for one believe if we'd had both of those guys in our offense last year, things might have gone a bit differently. It definitely would have opened up some more possiblities of the WRs getting downfield. So enough with this winslow sucks crap until we actually see him play a full season to see if he was overhyped like his fellow cane shockey.

03-13-2005, 12:16 PM	#6
ST21 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 519	Re: Taylor or Winslow that right, skinfan, until we see him play a full season, so until that happens, then we don't know, all I know is that he had the outburst at the U, where he claimed to be a soilder, hired the posten brothers, to be his agent, where there known, to give teams problems, and stated that he will be greater than his dad......so I'll blast him all i want until he becomes the pro bowler he claims to be.........

03-13-2005, 12:40 PM	#7
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Taylor or Winslow Our defense was amazing and that was credit to our backfield and w/o taylor we were just not as good. In the Green Bay game it felt like we were giving up way to many big plays. We need him and he is big for the team. With that said we also needed more on the offensive end and KW would be an upgrade. We will never know how our team would be different but i like THIS offseason because it lost allittle on D and gained allittle on offense what we needed. That is in relation to the Taylor/ Wislow question, again not like we would ever know but would we be better overall if we had wislow someone who could be a force and be on the line. If we could trade would we most of us would say no because KW isn't proven in the NFL yet but it is to the question how much on D can we give up to still be good and how much would we gain on offense to be good ENOUGH

03-13-2005, 01:17 PM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Taylor or Winslow Guys - Let's not bash Winslow too bad. He had a bad break (no pun intended) as far as injuries go. He's a special player and he IS better than Chris Cooley. Especially at the Hback position. Now, would I rather have Taylor and Cooley over Winslow and Sean Jones (safety browns got in the 3rd), absolutely. I love Taylor and I'd rather have him than Winslow, but Winslow is a playmaker and a great TE in this league. Why do you guys like some loudmouths but hate others? Portis, Smoot, LaVar, all loud mouthed and annoying, yet you love them. How about Mr. Holdout Patrick Ramsey. Don't see anyone ripping him about it. What about Ray Lewis who never shuts up, most of you get on your knees and praise him as if he's a demi-god instead of the aging overrated LB he is. In his prime he was great, but no longer! KWII is going to be a great player in this league assuming his injury didn't cripple him! KWII didn't get arrested for DUI, KWII didn't play agent roulette, KWII didn't get a deal then complain about it, and KWII missed the rookie synopsis. I'd still rather have Taylor, but KWII certainly isn't a BAD player.

03-13-2005, 01:21 PM	#9
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Taylor or Winslow KW hasn't proven anything yet except he can take a big hit (remember when he got clocked in that preseason game!). I think he's going to be a great pro, but he hasn't done jack just yet. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-13-2005, 02:43 PM	#10
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Re: Taylor or Winslow What happens when we sign Heath Miller? Sorry. I had to throw a wrench in the gears.

03-13-2005, 03:25 PM	#11
ST21 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 519	Re: Taylor or Winslow Daseal, first of all Ray Lewis is not overrated that's stuid to say, second of all there's a difference when you have proven yourself in the league, and a qutoe "loud mouth, to someone who just got to the league, and bumping the gums about what there going to do....nutt ride KWII all you want but, you never know how his injury is going to affect him.....Taylor bottom line is and was the way to go......

03-13-2005, 04:07 PM	#12
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Taylor or Winslow on last years draft day i would have been happy with either one but it's easy to say now who i'd rather have. winslow is probably going to be a very good te in the nfl but i'm glad the skins got taylor, he is a monster and only going to get better. p.s. i can't stand ray lewis and yes, he is overrated.

03-13-2005, 04:15 PM	#13
ST21 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 519	Re: Taylor or Winslow Ray Lewis is not overratted, that sounds like a little jealousy

03-13-2005, 04:21 PM	#14
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Taylor or Winslow he's the 2nd most overrated player. the 1st being m.vick. and what in the hell does jealousy have to do with anything. please don't make retarded accusations.

03-13-2005, 05:04 PM	#15
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Taylor or Winslow now, now folks keep it calm... I like Taylor over Winslow because he brings a level of toughness in our secondary that wasn't there before. Wideouts are scared to catch the ball deep in his area because they know shawns gonna lay the wood on them. I know we all remember that play 2 years age when stephen davis punched in that td on us. It was the 1st year he was on the panthers, it was like he spit on the redskins organization as a whole... no one on that defense could stop him on that play (with the help of the refs). I can safely tell you now that things like that won't happen any more to this team. did you see, I think it was the philly game, when a wide out was in the open field about to score a td and taylor layed his ass out on the 1, he wasn't able to get in. that to me was great because it made the statement that no matter who you are, its going to be hard to score on the skins we are noones bitch. offense wins games defenses win championships. They'll be another great tight end, but not many people show that kind of heart and intensity that taylor shows on that field. How many players can you say actualy bitched TO of all people, I can name 1, number 36 of the burgundy and gold thats who! it great to have a badd guy on our team like harrison of the patriots and lynch of the broncos, players like that make the offensive players think twice about trying to move that rock. __________________ That got ugly fast

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