CBA Talks at "Dead End"

Gmanc711 · 03-22-2005, 09:02 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2018691

What do you guys make of this?

FRPLG · 03-22-2005, 09:22 AM

They'll work it out...the issues between the union and the owners don't seem too bad but issues between the owners is the big stumbling block. In the end the Dans and Jones' will end up giving up more money to prop up other teams since otherwise there will be no deal. No deal is worse than a tax since it means no money at all.

jbcjr14 · 03-22-2005, 09:27 AM

The world better hope Danny Boy doesn't have an uncapped 2007. We will have every free agent in the house.

CRT3 · 03-22-2005, 09:32 AM

This is headed down the path I thought it would. Danny and others are blocking a agreement on the additional revenues that some feel should be shared. So unless this changes expect the uncapped year to happen. This is how Danny has played it based ont he contracts he has gotten signed.

BrudLee · 03-22-2005, 09:54 AM

I don't blame Snyder or any other owners for trying to keep as much revenue as they can. The revenue sharing agreement already keeps teams like the Cardinals and Bengals (historically "cheap" teams) well in the black. Teams like Jacksonville rarely sell out their home games - yet they get an equal share of an enormous TV revenue deal. Why would Dan Snyder want to increase seating in his already large stadium if he will only be entitled to 1/32 of the profits gained by it?

Revenue sharing makes the NFL strong. However, the ability to create revenue outside the shared streams shouldn't be punished.

FRPLG · 03-22-2005, 10:17 AM

It seems counter intuitive to reward teams for doing little to promote and sell the product. Whatever you think of the Dan he is probably the best owner is professional sports right now as far as generating income for his team. Besides the Yankees(who sell themselves) no other team comes close to generating the revenue of the Skins and they don't even win! Imagine if they had been any good. They'd be worth 1.5 billion dollars I bet. I just have a major philosophical problem with propping up owners too much. I think it is better to make sure the owners who put a lot of effort into selling their team, and by extension the NFL, get erwarded for efforts.

jdlea · 03-22-2005, 11:29 AM

If there is one uncapped year in the NFL the cap will die forever.

Daseal · 03-22-2005, 12:53 PM

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It seems counter intuitive to reward teams for doing little to promote and sell the product.

AMEN! Why should you tell guys like SF's owner who came out and said he was only worried about the bottom line a reason to put out a team that he pays nearly nothing to and get the same amount as Snyder who puts a lot of work into making revenue for the team. This is how it should be!

John Hasbrouck · 03-22-2005, 03:18 PM

The big market teams will have to give up some sort of % for the good of the leauge.

RedskinRat · 03-22-2005, 03:20 PM

If it goes the way of the NHL I'll kill myself, it's bad enough with no Hockey. I'll lose the will to live if I have neither.

BrudLee · 03-22-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

If there is one uncapped year in the NFL the cap will die forever.

I doubt it. All but Snyder and Jones (and probably not even those two) would never allow spending to go completely unchecked forever. If the uncapped year goes into effect, the owners will have a lockout until a CBA with a cap (a larger one) is in effect.

Both Snyder and Jones, and perhaps one or two other owners, would welcome a chance to "buy a championship" unfettered by the constraints of the cap. When the price came due, they would undoubtedly return to the shelter of some kind of salary cap.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-22-2005, 04:50 PM

If that situation WERE to happen, how would you guys feel about that? Buying a championship a la Yankees?

CrazyCanuck · 03-22-2005, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

If it goes the way of the NHL I'll kill myself, it's bad enough with no Hockey. I'll lose the will to live if I have neither.

A hockey fan in LA????? Maybe it's time to leave the sunshine for the Great White North? Don't worry the snow should be melted by June 1st.

BrudLee · 03-22-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

If that situation WERE to happen, how would you guys feel about that? Buying a championship a la Yankees?

I'm sure the Yankees, with their 26 World Series chamionships, are able to sleep at night.

On a bed of money.

Surrounded by beautiful women.

Bastards...

03-22-2005, 09:02 AM	#1
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	CBA Talks at "Dead End" http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2018691 What do you guys make of this? __________________ #21

03-22-2005, 09:22 AM	#2
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" They'll work it out...the issues between the union and the owners don't seem too bad but issues between the owners is the big stumbling block. In the end the Dans and Jones' will end up giving up more money to prop up other teams since otherwise there will be no deal. No deal is worse than a tax since it means no money at all.

03-22-2005, 09:27 AM	#3
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,015	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" The world better hope Danny Boy doesn't have an uncapped 2007. We will have every free agent in the house. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

03-22-2005, 09:32 AM	#4
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" This is headed down the path I thought it would. Danny and others are blocking a agreement on the additional revenues that some feel should be shared. So unless this changes expect the uncapped year to happen. This is how Danny has played it based ont he contracts he has gotten signed. __________________ 16-0 for 2007

03-22-2005, 09:54 AM	#5
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" I don't blame Snyder or any other owners for trying to keep as much revenue as they can. The revenue sharing agreement already keeps teams like the Cardinals and Bengals (historically "cheap" teams) well in the black. Teams like Jacksonville rarely sell out their home games - yet they get an equal share of an enormous TV revenue deal. Why would Dan Snyder want to increase seating in his already large stadium if he will only be entitled to 1/32 of the profits gained by it? Revenue sharing makes the NFL strong. However, the ability to create revenue outside the shared streams shouldn't be punished. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

03-22-2005, 10:17 AM	#6
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" It seems counter intuitive to reward teams for doing little to promote and sell the product. Whatever you think of the Dan he is probably the best owner is professional sports right now as far as generating income for his team. Besides the Yankees(who sell themselves) no other team comes close to generating the revenue of the Skins and they don't even win! Imagine if they had been any good. They'd be worth 1.5 billion dollars I bet. I just have a major philosophical problem with propping up owners too much. I think it is better to make sure the owners who put a lot of effort into selling their team, and by extension the NFL, get erwarded for efforts.

03-22-2005, 11:29 AM	#7
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" If there is one uncapped year in the NFL the cap will die forever.

03-22-2005, 03:18 PM	#9
John Hasbrouck Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 180	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" The big market teams will have to give up some sort of % for the good of the leauge.

03-22-2005, 03:20 PM	#10
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" If it goes the way of the NHL I'll kill myself, it's bad enough with no Hockey. I'll lose the will to live if I have neither.

03-22-2005, 04:50 PM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: CBA Talks at "Dead End" If that situation WERE to happen, how would you guys feel about that? Buying a championship a la Yankees? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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