Terri Schiavo

Gmanc711 · 03-23-2005, 09:12 PM

I'm just wondering what you guys think of this whole thing? Its really one of the saddest situations I have ever heard of. I really dont even know which side I'm on; I understand both sides of the story. However, I think its rediculous that a court gets to decide if this woman lives or dies. I'm just throwing it out there too see what peoples thoughts are on this?

SmootSmack · 03-23-2005, 09:17 PM

I've been wondering all day whether to post a thread on this. It's such a sensitive topic. I'm really torn on it but as you say why should the court be the ones to decide this

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-23-2005, 09:39 PM

Yeah, I'm torn too. But, the courts need to decide the issue because it is about Terri's legal rights, her husband's right to speak for her, her parents' right to have any say about her medical care, and the general right to die under certain circumstances.

redrock-skins · 03-23-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I've been wondering all day whether to post a thread on this. It's such a sensitive topic. I'm really torn on it but as you say why should the court be the ones to decide this

Its been a heated debate at my Yankees fans website. My only issue is that Bush and Congress (Dems and Repubs) overstepped their bounds by flying back in and wasting taxpayers money to write a law, that may be unconstitutional anyway. It is so hard to pry Bush away from his ranch in Crawford (even during Iraq War), but for Mrs Shiavo he hops on a plane late at night? There have been numerous court decisions on this and yet this keeps going until the one side gets a ruling they like. I don't really know jack about Mr and Mrs Shiavo, the parents, family, or friends, other than what we are hearing through the media. Neither does Bush or Congress, but there they were trying score political points. Between Terri Shaivo and steriods we've had one giant waste of taxpayer's money week!

When are Bush and Congress going to fly back in the middle of the night and fix health care? There's lots of people dying due to the crappy or non-existant health care they are currently receiving. If they are so "pro-life", then really prove it!

MTK · 03-23-2005, 10:56 PM

Courts shouldn't be ruling on moral issues and I'm glad they've stuck to their guns.

skinsfanthru&thru · 03-23-2005, 11:51 PM

I firmly believe in what her husband is doing. He's the person who is supposed to know her wishes on this type of matter the best and seems to be carrying them out. I know if I were in the place of this poor woman, I would hope that my family would do what I wish and let me go. Don't let me suffer or make those that I love suffer by having to see me like that and have to take care of me both mentally and emotionally but also financially. I can easily understand both sides of this situation, but every doctor involved in this case has said there is practically no chance at all for any type of recovery from her brain damage. The courts should not be getting involved in this decision and politicians should not be using this woman's suffering as a way to appease their constituents.
Sometimes it amazes me how fearful some extremely religious people are so afraid of a loved one being let go and passing on.

Daseal · 03-24-2005, 12:06 AM

I agree with skinsfanthru&thru!

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-24-2005, 12:24 AM

They are also the same ones against stem cell research... VERY hypocritical.

NY_Skinsfan · 03-24-2005, 12:25 AM

What I don't like about this situation is how the media is handling it...they make each side look bad. The husband is just out for the insurance money or the parents are too afraid to let go. Also, when the media keeps saying that without the feeding tube she is "starving to death", the media fails to mention that the doctors are doing everything they can to hydrate her and medicate her so that she does not feel the same effects as someone who is stuck in the middle of the desert with no food and water for two weeks. The media needs to step away from this one and let the families deal with it. I believe without all the media attention, the courts would not be as involved or neither would the President.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-24-2005, 12:33 AM

I might not be that informed on this subject, but isn't this the same type of situation as something "pulling the plug"??

cpayne5 · 03-24-2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I might not be that informed on this subject, but isn't this the same type of situation as something "pulling the plug"??

No, 'pulling the plug' normally results in a near immediate death as the patient is being kept alive artificially on machines. Ms. Schindler-Shiavo's condition is more self sustaining than that. Her body is able to keep all the required organs working in order to maintain life. She cannot, though, feed herself and has a feeding tube surgically implanted through her abdomen. When they pull the plug in her case, she will starve to death.

I can understand all sides in this situation, believe it or not. Mr. Shiavo wants to move on with his life and carry out what he feels is his wife's unwritten living will by letting her die. The Schindler family wants to keep her alive in belief that she can make progress given proper treatment and therapy. I would imagine that their position also rests on the fact that it is very hard to 'give up and let go'.

It is a very hard decision, no matter which opinion you side with.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-24-2005, 12:52 AM

Most definitely. Honestly, I couldn't imagine being in either side's position.

NY_Skinsfan · 03-24-2005, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

No, 'pulling the plug' normally results in a near immediate death as the patient is being kept alive artificially on machines. Ms. Schindler-Shiavo's condition is more self sustaining than that. Her body is able to keep all the required organs working in order to maintain life. She cannot, though, feed herself and has a feeding tube surgically implanted through her abdomen. When they pull the plug in her case, she will starve to death.

I can understand all sides in this situation, believe it or not. Mr. Shiavo wants to move on with his life and carry out what he feels is his wife's unwritten living will by letting her die. The Schindler family wants to keep her alive in belief that she can make progress given proper treatment and therapy. I would imagine that their position also rests on the fact that it is very hard to 'give up and let go'.

It is a very hard decision, no matter which opinion you side with.

Right now I am swaying towards Mr. Shiavo's side but if this were my daughter I would probably be the other way around. I don't think I could ever let my daughter just die. In fact, I know I would never let my daughter die if there was even the tiniest bit of hope.

redrock-skins · 03-24-2005, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

No, 'pulling the plug' normally results in a near immediate death as the patient is being kept alive artificially on machines. Ms. Schindler-Shiavo's condition is more self sustaining than that. Her body is able to keep all the required organs working in order to maintain life. She cannot, though, feed herself and has a feeding tube surgically implanted through her abdomen. When they pull the plug in her case, she will starve to death.

I can understand all sides in this situation, believe it or not. Mr. Shiavo wants to move on with his life and carry out what he feels is his wife's unwritten living will by letting her die. The Schindler family wants to keep her alive in belief that she can make progress given proper treatment and therapy. I would imagine that their position also rests on the fact that it is very hard to 'give up and let go'.

It is a very hard decision, no matter which opinion you side with.

Yes, no matter what your position is or the outcome, there are no winners regardless of what happens.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-24-2005, 02:45 AM

What the parents are contesting is not only the possibility that Terri's situation may improve, but also the possibility that Terri never told her husband she wanted to be disconnected from life support if she was in a vegetative state. The husband supposedly wants to pocket money he got in a malpractice suit that is contingent upon her never returning from her vegetative state. Moreover, the husband cannot marry his girlfriend of over one decade until Terri is dead. So, the parents say the husband is lying to get money and married. Whether their allegations are true is subject to endless debate.

As for the court ruling on "moral issues," I think for one the Court should rule on moral issues. It does so every single day - whether its immoral to sentence to death minors or the mentally retarded, etc. Moreover, it's not just about moral issues; it's about who has the right to tell doctors to severe the life support for another person. That's a pretty serious issue.

03-23-2005, 09:12 PM	#1
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Terri Schiavo I'm just wondering what you guys think of this whole thing? Its really one of the saddest situations I have ever heard of. I really dont even know which side I'm on; I understand both sides of the story. However, I think its rediculous that a court gets to decide if this woman lives or dies. I'm just throwing it out there too see what peoples thoughts are on this? __________________ #21

03-23-2005, 09:17 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Terri Schiavo I've been wondering all day whether to post a thread on this. It's such a sensitive topic. I'm really torn on it but as you say why should the court be the ones to decide this __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-23-2005, 09:39 PM	#3
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Terri Schiavo Yeah, I'm torn too. But, the courts need to decide the issue because it is about Terri's legal rights, her husband's right to speak for her, her parents' right to have any say about her medical care, and the general right to die under certain circumstances.

03-23-2005, 10:56 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,564	Re: Terri Schiavo Courts shouldn't be ruling on moral issues and I'm glad they've stuck to their guns. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-23-2005, 11:51 PM	#6
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Re: Terri Schiavo I firmly believe in what her husband is doing. He's the person who is supposed to know her wishes on this type of matter the best and seems to be carrying them out. I know if I were in the place of this poor woman, I would hope that my family would do what I wish and let me go. Don't let me suffer or make those that I love suffer by having to see me like that and have to take care of me both mentally and emotionally but also financially. I can easily understand both sides of this situation, but every doctor involved in this case has said there is practically no chance at all for any type of recovery from her brain damage. The courts should not be getting involved in this decision and politicians should not be using this woman's suffering as a way to appease their constituents. Sometimes it amazes me how fearful some extremely religious people are so afraid of a loved one being let go and passing on.

03-24-2005, 12:06 AM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Terri Schiavo I agree with skinsfanthru&thru!

03-24-2005, 12:24 AM	#8
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Terri Schiavo They are also the same ones against stem cell research... VERY hypocritical. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-24-2005, 12:25 AM	#9
NY_Skinsfan Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Age: 51 Posts: 838	Re: Terri Schiavo What I don't like about this situation is how the media is handling it...they make each side look bad. The husband is just out for the insurance money or the parents are too afraid to let go. Also, when the media keeps saying that without the feeding tube she is "starving to death", the media fails to mention that the doctors are doing everything they can to hydrate her and medicate her so that she does not feel the same effects as someone who is stuck in the middle of the desert with no food and water for two weeks. The media needs to step away from this one and let the families deal with it. I believe without all the media attention, the courts would not be as involved or neither would the President.

03-24-2005, 12:33 AM	#10
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Terri Schiavo I might not be that informed on this subject, but isn't this the same type of situation as something "pulling the plug"?? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-24-2005, 12:52 AM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Terri Schiavo Most definitely. Honestly, I couldn't imagine being in either side's position. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-24-2005, 02:45 AM	#15
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Terri Schiavo What the parents are contesting is not only the possibility that Terri's situation may improve, but also the possibility that Terri never told her husband she wanted to be disconnected from life support if she was in a vegetative state. The husband supposedly wants to pocket money he got in a malpractice suit that is contingent upon her never returning from her vegetative state. Moreover, the husband cannot marry his girlfriend of over one decade until Terri is dead. So, the parents say the husband is lying to get money and married. Whether their allegations are true is subject to endless debate. As for the court ruling on "moral issues," I think for one the Court should rule on moral issues. It does so every single day - whether its immoral to sentence to death minors or the mentally retarded, etc. Moreover, it's not just about moral issues; it's about who has the right to tell doctors to severe the life support for another person. That's a pretty serious issue.

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