Patrick Ramsey's Future

Drift Reality · 05-31-2005, 11:50 PM

I think one of the more intriguing stories on the Redskins will involve Patrick Ramsey's future. Considering we traded a considerable amount of picks to trade up and draft Jason Campbell, I would say the writing on the wall is fairly clear.

At the same time, Ramsey has at least one year to prove his mettle before they even consider giving Campbell a shot.

My question is, what happens if Ramsey has a decent year and ends up with a QB rating in the neighborhood of 80-85. What if another team were to offer a top-10 first round pick for him. Would you make the trade, knowing that he had one more year left on his contract and that you had Gibbs' guy waiting in the wings?

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-31-2005, 11:52 PM

I'm only concerned because BRUNELL was Gibbs' guy also.

MTK · 05-31-2005, 11:53 PM

Unless Ramsey stinks up the joint, I'd say the job is his to lose for the next 2 years, or unless Campbell is just so impressive he ends up beating Ramsey out next year.

Drift Reality · 05-31-2005, 11:58 PM

I just hate to think that we might end up having Ramsey playing out his contract, leaving as a free agent, and not get anything in return for the guy.

skin4Life28 · 06-01-2005, 12:03 AM

If a top 10 pick is offered at the end of the year. It's gonna be hard for the Skins not to try and take it. He has one final chance though here so lets hope for the best.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 06-01-2005, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by skin4Life28

If a top 10 pick is offered at the end of the year. It's gonna be hard for the Skins not to try and take it. He has one final chance though here so lets hope for the best.

Unless we make the playoffs and Ramsey has an 85+ QB rating, I'd take the top 10 pick in a heartbeat.....and I'm Ramseyfan.

TheMalcolmConnection · 06-01-2005, 12:44 AM

LOL. Just funny how you put that man.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 06-01-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

LOL. Just funny how you put that man.

I'm serious though. I'm Ramseyfan because I love the guy - he's got heart, he's humble, he's a hard worker, he's got a howitzer for an arm, and he'll take one...or two, or three, or four....for the team.

BUT, I'm a Redskins' fan first, a Ramseyfan second. I recognize that our franchise can only afford to give him or two more FULL seasons to show why he's our franchise quarterback. Fortunately, I think he'll be good enough next season to make us hesitate about taking even a top 10 draft pick.

offiss · 06-01-2005, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I'm serious though. I'm Ramseyfan because I love the guy - he's got heart, he's humble, he's a hard worker, he's got a howitzer for an arm, and he'll take one...or two, or three, or four....for the team.

BUT, I'm a Redskins' fan first, a Ramseyfan second. I recognize that our franchise can only afford to give him or two more FULL seasons to show why he's our franchise quarterback. Fortunately, I think he'll be good enough next season to make us hesitate about taking even a top 10 draft pick.

I have been a big supporter of Ramsey, I just feel he can be an elite QB in the NFL, my biggest concern is that he doesn't get scapegoated while Gibbs is still trying to catch up.

Daseal · 06-01-2005, 02:34 AM

First I'd like to say that I think Ramsey is a great player. I think he can be a great QB in this league with a monster arm. He reminds me of Favre a little bit, but not on that plateau yet, by a long shot.

Anyhow, I'm curious if the drafting of Campbell (including ditching our 1st next year) wasn't related in us trying to trade Ramsey after the season to recoup that 1st we gave up for Campbell. It will be curious how it pans out. I think both QB's are very good, but Gibbs just doesn't seem to want to give Ramsey the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully Ramsey gets a full year and plays great, but then we have an expensive first round pick sitting on the bench.

jrocx69 · 06-01-2005, 06:06 AM

i like ramsey too, but the potential campbell has is awesome to think about. 6'5" and can sramble plenty; with a very good arm, maybe not as strong as ramsey's but very solid in strength. i watch auburn alot on cbs the sec channel during college football season. i dont know if its regional or whatever but i watched campbell quite a bit and his arm can go downfield. i love the fact he has mobility that ramsey just cant physically do yet has a very good arm and pretty accurate from what i seen in his college days

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor · 06-01-2005, 06:32 AM

i like ramsay also but it looks like campbell is our guy. i have a friend who supported auburn all of last year and was telling me that campbell is a very smart qb who doesn't make mistakes. he is very accurate and who unlike ramsey can make something happen with his feet. it was a very decision for gibbs to put pressure on ramsey instead of letting him get comfortable back there. if ramsey does not get it this year than he will never get it. i have questioned gibbs decision to give brunell so much money when we could have waited and gave him a veteran's minimal. i thought that brunell could still play but hey not our 2nd pick. his arm is shot and it looks very bad for gibbs who thought so highly of brunell. i think that campbell is the real gibbs guy who will possibly be the next doug williams.

Sean taylor is the best!!

TheMalcolmConnection · 06-01-2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I'm serious though. I'm Ramseyfan because I love the guy - he's got heart, he's humble, he's a hard worker, he's got a howitzer for an arm, and he'll take one...or two, or three, or four....for the team.

BUT, I'm a Redskins' fan first, a Ramseyfan second. I recognize that our franchise can only afford to give him or two more FULL seasons to show why he's our franchise quarterback. Fortunately, I think he'll be good enough next season to make us hesitate about taking even a top 10 draft pick.

I definitely agree. I think this season will be his breakout season. I think that he and Taylor Jacobs will be the biggest surprises of the year.

TigersPawSkins · 06-01-2005, 09:43 AM

I think that ramsey will have a good year and then either be traded will a #1 draft pick as compensation or take the #2 spot here in washington. It is a raw deal that ramsey has gotten since coming to the nfl but you cant go back and change that. campbell will have the good fortune to have some very good coaches grooming him for the future. With his current abilities further enhanced by being here, it looks like he will be a excellent qb. He is a very good match for the system here. I really like ramsey and would hate to see him go. But we all do want the best man in there to get the wins. Ideally I would love to have campbell as starting qb with ramsey as #2. Not sure how I feel about brunell staying. I like him very much and feel he brings alot of intangibles to the table. But I dont think we should be paying him so much money for intangibles.

Schneed10 · 06-01-2005, 09:44 AM

Gibbs has always been the type that doesn't mind QB controversy, he thinks having two real good QBs is a great problem to have. I don't think he has "a guy", he just wants to have a couple good ones on hand, and he'll end up playing the best one. Simple as that. I don't think he brought in Campbell with the intention of trading Ramsey, and I don't think he views Campbell as Ramsey's automatic successor. He's just going to give them both a shot, evaluate them, and play the best one.

What happens in two years with Ramsey's contract is anyone's guess at this point, the salary cap will surely play a role. But I don't think Gibbs will trade Ramsey if he has one of those Drew Brees breakout years. He'll keep him and play him, despite Campbell warming the bench.

05-31-2005, 11:53 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future Unless Ramsey stinks up the joint, I'd say the job is his to lose for the next 2 years, or unless Campbell is just so impressive he ends up beating Ramsey out next year. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-31-2005, 11:58 PM	#4
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future I just hate to think that we might end up having Ramsey playing out his contract, leaving as a free agent, and not get anything in return for the guy. __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

06-01-2005, 12:03 AM	#5
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 38 Posts: 447	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future If a top 10 pick is offered at the end of the year. It's gonna be hard for the Skins not to try and take it. He has one final chance though here so lets hope for the best.

06-01-2005, 12:44 AM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future LOL. Just funny how you put that man. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

06-01-2005, 02:34 AM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future First I'd like to say that I think Ramsey is a great player. I think he can be a great QB in this league with a monster arm. He reminds me of Favre a little bit, but not on that plateau yet, by a long shot. Anyhow, I'm curious if the drafting of Campbell (including ditching our 1st next year) wasn't related in us trying to trade Ramsey after the season to recoup that 1st we gave up for Campbell. It will be curious how it pans out. I think both QB's are very good, but Gibbs just doesn't seem to want to give Ramsey the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully Ramsey gets a full year and plays great, but then we have an expensive first round pick sitting on the bench. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-31-2005, 11:50 PM	#1
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	Patrick Ramsey's Future I think one of the more intriguing stories on the Redskins will involve Patrick Ramsey's future. Considering we traded a considerable amount of picks to trade up and draft Jason Campbell, I would say the writing on the wall is fairly clear. At the same time, Ramsey has at least one year to prove his mettle before they even consider giving Campbell a shot. My question is, what happens if Ramsey has a decent year and ends up with a QB rating in the neighborhood of 80-85. What if another team were to offer a top-10 first round pick for him. Would you make the trade, knowing that he had one more year left on his contract and that you had Gibbs' guy waiting in the wings? __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

05-31-2005, 11:52 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future I'm only concerned because BRUNELL was Gibbs' guy also. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

06-01-2005, 06:06 AM	#11
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future i like ramsey too, but the potential campbell has is awesome to think about. 6'5" and can sramble plenty; with a very good arm, maybe not as strong as ramsey's but very solid in strength. i watch auburn alot on cbs the sec channel during college football season. i dont know if its regional or whatever but i watched campbell quite a bit and his arm can go downfield. i love the fact he has mobility that ramsey just cant physically do yet has a very good arm and pretty accurate from what i seen in his college days

06-01-2005, 06:32 AM	#12
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Queens Village, NY Age: 44 Posts: 349	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future i like ramsay also but it looks like campbell is our guy. i have a friend who supported auburn all of last year and was telling me that campbell is a very smart qb who doesn't make mistakes. he is very accurate and who unlike ramsey can make something happen with his feet. it was a very decision for gibbs to put pressure on ramsey instead of letting him get comfortable back there. if ramsey does not get it this year than he will never get it. i have questioned gibbs decision to give brunell so much money when we could have waited and gave him a veteran's minimal. i thought that brunell could still play but hey not our 2nd pick. his arm is shot and it looks very bad for gibbs who thought so highly of brunell. i think that campbell is the real gibbs guy who will possibly be the next doug williams. Sean taylor is the best!!

06-01-2005, 09:43 AM	#14
TigersPawSkins Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern Va. about 5-10 minutes from redskins park Age: 56 Posts: 11	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future I think that ramsey will have a good year and then either be traded will a #1 draft pick as compensation or take the #2 spot here in washington. It is a raw deal that ramsey has gotten since coming to the nfl but you cant go back and change that. campbell will have the good fortune to have some very good coaches grooming him for the future. With his current abilities further enhanced by being here, it looks like he will be a excellent qb. He is a very good match for the system here. I really like ramsey and would hate to see him go. But we all do want the best man in there to get the wins. Ideally I would love to have campbell as starting qb with ramsey as #2. Not sure how I feel about brunell staying. I like him very much and feel he brings alot of intangibles to the table. But I dont think we should be paying him so much money for intangibles. __________________ believe in your dreams, but live in reality

06-01-2005, 09:44 AM	#15
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,426	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future Gibbs has always been the type that doesn't mind QB controversy, he thinks having two real good QBs is a great problem to have. I don't think he has "a guy", he just wants to have a couple good ones on hand, and he'll end up playing the best one. Simple as that. I don't think he brought in Campbell with the intention of trading Ramsey, and I don't think he views Campbell as Ramsey's automatic successor. He's just going to give them both a shot, evaluate them, and play the best one. What happens in two years with Ramsey's contract is anyone's guess at this point, the salary cap will surely play a role. But I don't think Gibbs will trade Ramsey if he has one of those Drew Brees breakout years. He'll keep him and play him, despite Campbell warming the bench.

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