Carlos Rogers

Defensewins · 08-27-2005, 05:07 PM

I saw about 90% of the game last night, so I might of missed something...but it looked to me like "Rookie" Carlos Rogers had a solid game. There was no mention of him playing well on the game thread, so I wonder if I missed him blow a play or something?
What I did see is Carlos break up some passes and make a few great tackles on running plays. From what I saw he looked great.
I wonder if because he is a very high draft pick there might be really high - almost too high expectations on him. He is going to make rookie mistakes this year, expect them.
Shawn Springs and Pierson Prioleau looked good too.
Lavar is still not the Lavar of old. Hopefully he will feel better soon and play like before.
Cornelius Griffen is the man that holds this D together.

EternalEnigma21 · 08-27-2005, 06:04 PM

Rogers does look good. He got picked on the other game by a fresh set of legs and 3 streak patterns in a row with no safety help. I think he's gonna be fine. Arrington looked fine, too. Especially for as long as he's been out. I still can't figure out what happened to Matt Bowen, though.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 08-27-2005, 06:10 PM

Our D has the potential to again be the "Beasts in the East"! Sean Taylor with Lavar and the Shawn Spring will be a more solid unit with him.

I sure do like Carlos too and hope he has a long strong career as a Redskin.
peace

BossHog · 08-27-2005, 06:18 PM

Rodgers has been solid thus far. And like I said in an earlier post, most starting NFL CBs would've been beat presented with the same challenges. There's no need to worry about his development. Rodgers was a better prospect than Smoot coming out and he'll probably outplay him this year as a rook. It looks like our depth at S will pay off if Bowen's injury is serious. Prioleau and Stoutmire both are playing well. And hopefully Ryan Clark picks up where he left off last year. Seems like LA is more effective as a stand up OLB than in a four point stance. Holdman (outside) and Lemar (middle) were out of position at times and may need more time playing together. Time is running out though. As for the DL, they will show up when the regular season is here. And the OL was straight mauling everybody. Samuels is playing with a mean streak that I haven't seen until now. Betts continues to show that he was to be the next Stephen Davis and the Rock solidified Nemo's spot on the practice squad.

davy · 08-27-2005, 07:43 PM

Nemo is not going on the practice squad, he would be picked up within 24 hours by somebody.

Kevikazi · 08-27-2005, 08:01 PM

Smoot had Darrell Green, Deon Sanders, and Champ Bailey showing him the ropes. I think that's why he played as well as he did. Hopefully, Springs will show Rogers a thing or two to improve his game.

BossHog · 08-27-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by davy

Nemo is not going on the practice squad, he would be picked up within 24 hours by somebody.

So you think we'll have four RBs on the active rosters? Gibbs should've looked (at Betts) before he leaped (for Portis).

Drift Reality · 08-27-2005, 08:32 PM

The Portis acquisition was a smart move. The guy rushed for over 1300 yards last year and this was his worst season as a pro.

Betts has looked good in spot duty, but when defenses key to stop one player (like they did against Portis last year), it is a completely different ballgame.

Like with the Moss/Coles trade, there is something to be said for getting rid of someone who doesn't want to be here (Bailey) for someone who does (Portis).

mooby · 08-27-2005, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevikazi

Smoot had Darrell Green, Deon Sanders, and Champ Bailey showing him the ropes. I think that's why he played as well as he did. Hopefully, Springs will show Rogers a thing or two to improve his game.

smoot never had deion helping him. smoot was drafted in 2001, deion only played for the skins in 2000.

BossHog · 08-27-2005, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

The Portis acquisition was a smart move. The guy rushed for over 1300 yards last year and this was his worst season as a pro.

Betts has looked good in spot duty, but when defenses key to stop one player (like they did against Portis last year), it is a completely different ballgame.

Like with the Moss/Coles trade, there is something to be said for getting rid of someone who doesn't want to be here (Bailey) for someone who does (Portis).

Oh yeah. I did forget about Bailey forcing the teams hand to trade for a player we perhaps didn't need.

BossHog · 08-27-2005, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooby

smoot never had deion helping him. smoot was drafted in 2001, deion only played for the skins in 2000.

Not exactly. Smoot gave up his jersey number (21) so that Dieon could wear it.

GoSkins! · 08-27-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossHog

So you think we'll have four RBs on the active rosters? Gibbs should've looked (at Betts) before he leaped (for Portis).

Yep. Look on Redskins.com for the not-likely to be cut list.

I think that Nemo and Rock make it because of special-teams and because we need them more than we need Dyson or McCants.

jacobyfan · 08-27-2005, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossHog

Not exactly. Smoot gave up his jersey number (21) so that Dieon could wear it.

You are incorrect. Smoot's first year was 2001. Deion only played for the skins in 2000. Look it up if you like.

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/ro...nnual/2000-was
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/ro...nnual/2001-was

diehardskin2982 · 08-28-2005, 12:25 AM

bailey learned from Deon and Darrell, not smoot. Rogers is an over all better prospect than smoot, (Sorry TAFKAS) but he way better and we will see through out this season. At Auburn he was a shutdown corner and once he learns the ropes the same will happen here

Daseal · 08-28-2005, 03:31 AM

Ryan Leaf was an equal prospect to Peyton Manning too. Prospect doesnt mean anything and it's a risky proposition to let a solid starter go for a rookie.

Now, I'm not saying Rogers is Ryan Leaf, but prospects are exactly that till they prove their worth on the NFL stage.

08-27-2005, 05:07 PM	#1
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Carlos Rogers I saw about 90% of the game last night, so I might of missed something...but it looked to me like "Rookie" Carlos Rogers had a solid game. There was no mention of him playing well on the game thread, so I wonder if I missed him blow a play or something? What I did see is Carlos break up some passes and make a few great tackles on running plays. From what I saw he looked great. I wonder if because he is a very high draft pick there might be really high - almost too high expectations on him. He is going to make rookie mistakes this year, expect them. Shawn Springs and Pierson Prioleau looked good too. Lavar is still not the Lavar of old. Hopefully he will feel better soon and play like before. Cornelius Griffen is the man that holds this D together.

08-27-2005, 06:04 PM	#2
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Carlos Rogers Rogers does look good. He got picked on the other game by a fresh set of legs and 3 streak patterns in a row with no safety help. I think he's gonna be fine. Arrington looked fine, too. Especially for as long as he's been out. I still can't figure out what happened to Matt Bowen, though.

08-27-2005, 06:10 PM	#3
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 62 Posts: 2,507	Re: Carlos Rogers Our D has the potential to again be the "Beasts in the East"! Sean Taylor with Lavar and the Shawn Spring will be a more solid unit with him. I sure do like Carlos too and hope he has a long strong career as a Redskin. peace __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

08-27-2005, 06:18 PM	#4
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Re: Carlos Rogers Rodgers has been solid thus far. And like I said in an earlier post, most starting NFL CBs would've been beat presented with the same challenges. There's no need to worry about his development. Rodgers was a better prospect than Smoot coming out and he'll probably outplay him this year as a rook. It looks like our depth at S will pay off if Bowen's injury is serious. Prioleau and Stoutmire both are playing well. And hopefully Ryan Clark picks up where he left off last year. Seems like LA is more effective as a stand up OLB than in a four point stance. Holdman (outside) and Lemar (middle) were out of position at times and may need more time playing together. Time is running out though. As for the DL, they will show up when the regular season is here. And the OL was straight mauling everybody. Samuels is playing with a mean streak that I haven't seen until now. Betts continues to show that he was to be the next Stephen Davis and the Rock solidified Nemo's spot on the practice squad.

08-27-2005, 07:43 PM	#5
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 936	Re: Carlos Rogers Nemo is not going on the practice squad, he would be picked up within 24 hours by somebody.

08-27-2005, 08:01 PM	#6
Kevikazi Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 55 Posts: 187	Re: Carlos Rogers Smoot had Darrell Green, Deon Sanders, and Champ Bailey showing him the ropes. I think that's why he played as well as he did. Hopefully, Springs will show Rogers a thing or two to improve his game.

08-27-2005, 08:32 PM	#8
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	Re: Carlos Rogers The Portis acquisition was a smart move. The guy rushed for over 1300 yards last year and this was his worst season as a pro. Betts has looked good in spot duty, but when defenses key to stop one player (like they did against Portis last year), it is a completely different ballgame. Like with the Moss/Coles trade, there is something to be said for getting rid of someone who doesn't want to be here (Bailey) for someone who does (Portis). __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

08-28-2005, 12:25 AM	#14
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Carlos Rogers bailey learned from Deon and Darrell, not smoot. Rogers is an over all better prospect than smoot, (Sorry TAFKAS) but he way better and we will see through out this season. At Auburn he was a shutdown corner and once he learns the ropes the same will happen here __________________ That got ugly fast

08-28-2005, 03:31 AM	#15
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Carlos Rogers Ryan Leaf was an equal prospect to Peyton Manning too. Prospect doesnt mean anything and it's a risky proposition to let a solid starter go for a rookie. Now, I'm not saying Rogers is Ryan Leaf, but prospects are exactly that till they prove their worth on the NFL stage. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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