Huddle Report Mock Draft

Cush · 04-13-2004, 08:55 PM

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/2004DRAFT/REmock.htm

CHARGERS trade #1 & #66 to REDSKINS for #5 and OT Chris Samuels

01) Washington: Eli Manning QB Miss

BILLS trade #13 to REDSKINS for QB Patrick Ramsey

13: Washington: Vince Wilfork DT, Miami

MTK · 04-13-2004, 08:58 PM

ok this makes no sense whatsoever

SmootSmack · 04-13-2004, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cush

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/2004DRAFT/REmock.htm

CHARGERS trade #1 & #66 to REDSKINS for #5 and OT Chris Samuels

01) Washington: Eli Manning QB Miss

BILLS trade #13 to REDSKINS for QB Patrick Ramsey

13: Washington: Vince Wilfork DT, Miami

Well I don't see the benefits of these moves at all. This seems like those cartoons where the character jumps five feet off the ground, spins his legs and feet in a furious frenzy creating a cloud of smoke but doesn't actually go anywhere. That's my "thorough" analysis of where the Redskins would be if they made those moves

Jamaican'Skin · 04-13-2004, 09:01 PM

That is possibly the most random, inaccurate thing I have ever seen.

Showtime · 04-13-2004, 09:02 PM

Would anyone want Manning more than Ramsey? Not me. Ramsey has a rocket arm, is tough, and is smart.

Anyways, Matty K is right - this makes no sense at all. We might as well draft Clarett with our #5 pick instead . .

SKINSnCANES · 04-13-2004, 09:28 PM

I dont think many people want to get rid of Ramsey, but if he isnt going to play for the next two to three years then mabye we should get somethign for him. I dont want to do that, but Gibbs likes his vetts and Brunell is probably going to start. I dont know if Manning would be the QB to get though. Id rather them get Taylor with five. Then trade Ramsey to get a pick then get a QB. Then we didnt get rid of our pick, and Samuels and Gardner. We could still get rid of Gardner then and mabye our pick form next year and get some dline help.

skinsfanthru&thru · 04-13-2004, 09:54 PM

Even though I'd rather keep him, if we traded Ramsey, how about to Pittsburgh, trade that pick down to get a later 1st round pick and a second/or 3rd and use the new 1st round pick to draft J.P. Losman, who took Ramsey's place at Tulane and is supposed to be stronger and more mobile than Ramsey.

SKINSnCANES · 04-13-2004, 09:57 PM

Some people say Losman is the best QB in the draft and has the most potential a few years down the road. Im sure he would learn a lot under Brunell to, along with Gibbs. If we had the 11th pick though id use it and get the dline of our choice to go along with Taylor at five and make our d awesome.

offiss · 04-13-2004, 10:04 PM

we are not taking a QB, Gibb's does not want a rookie backup, he brought in brunell because after 2 year's he felt ramsey was still to young, we are not in a rebuilding mode we are a win now team drafting a young QB goes against all that.

SKINSnCANES · 04-13-2004, 10:08 PM

We are still in a winning mode if we draft a QB, hence why he brough in Brunell. If its a backup it can be a rookie or a two year pro. Honestly i want Ramsey to start and Brunell to just be an expensive backup. Spurrier had his problems but I think he was a great tutor to Ramsey, and now beign under Gibbs Ramsey could be a probowler this year if hes given the shot.

Beemnseven · 04-13-2004, 11:04 PM

Much of the Ramsey trade rumors depend on how much Gibbs would like to draft and develop a QB of his very own. Judging from what Gibbs has already said, Ramsey isn't going anywhere.

I was going to say that Ramsey was a Spurrier guy, but that wasn't even the case. Ramsey was Snyder and Cerrato's guy. Spurrier didn't have any decision to take Ramsey. In fact, if you remember, Ramsey was almost traded to the Bears after holding out.

lifetimeskin · 04-13-2004, 11:15 PM

This mock seems like a bunch of muck. I can see Marty wanting a quality left tackle but I think other teams will offer alot more than a #5 pick and Samuels for the #1 overall. However, the Ramsey trade does seem interesting to both teams. If he doesn't play for the next two years, his contract will be up and he will want big $$....for sitting.

SKINSnCANES · 04-14-2004, 12:42 AM

Its that or we pay Brunell big money for sitting now.

skins93 · 04-14-2004, 09:00 AM

If this were to happen, although it seems somewhat unlikely, I really like it after letting it sink in.

Here are the reasons:

-Ramsey is going to sit the majority of the time over the next couple of years. Why not get something now for him?
-No one can say Ramsey is a true franchise QB (IMO he's not mobile, not accurate enough, can't read defenses all that well)
-Hassellbeck might have shown Gibbs enough to be a decent #2 for now.
-Manning is a franchise QB who can ride the pine for a year (Jay Schroeder was a backup who played in his 2nd year)
-Samuels and Ramsey would really help the cap situation plus it would show agents like Sexton the door
-We would still get a needed DT who has good upside

Overall, it may not make sense, but think about it for a moment...

BleedBurgundy · 04-14-2004, 09:27 AM

Ok, I'm a big Ramsey supporter (I still don't like the whole trade for Brunell) BUT if there was any quarterback I would want in his place, it's Eli Manning. I don't know if you guys remember, but when Peyton was coming out of Tennessee, the whispers on the approach to draft day were to the effect that he(Peyton) was highly overrated. Now, after a hell of a college career at a second-tier school playing in the SEC, arguably the best conference, on average over the last few years; the same thing is being said about Eli, with Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers taking turns playing the role of Ryan Leaf . Remember, Ole Miss came two missed short field goals from beating National Champ's LSU. Point is, the kid's a winner, he's got a proven track record, all the physical ability you need (better than Peyton), no character flaws, and the pedigree from hell. When you take into account that Ramsey probably doesn't feel too good about sitting after taking a shellacking for the team during Spurrier's chuck and duck schemes last year, it might be best just to get a good, high value pick in a deep draft. WIth the Bill's pick we could still get some actual quality on D-Line, our biggest need right now.

I'd like to say "just trust the front office" but who the hell would do such a crazy thing?

04-13-2004, 09:57 PM	#8
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Some people say Losman is the best QB in the draft and has the most potential a few years down the road. Im sure he would learn a lot under Brunell to, along with Gibbs. If we had the 11th pick though id use it and get the dline of our choice to go along with Taylor at five and make our d awesome. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-13-2004, 10:08 PM	#10
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	We are still in a winning mode if we draft a QB, hence why he brough in Brunell. If its a backup it can be a rookie or a two year pro. Honestly i want Ramsey to start and Brunell to just be an expensive backup. Spurrier had his problems but I think he was a great tutor to Ramsey, and now beign under Gibbs Ramsey could be a probowler this year if hes given the shot. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-13-2004, 11:15 PM	#12
lifetimeskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 59 Posts: 84	This mock seems like a bunch of muck. I can see Marty wanting a quality left tackle but I think other teams will offer alot more than a #5 pick and Samuels for the #1 overall. However, the Ramsey trade does seem interesting to both teams. If he doesn't play for the next two years, his contract will be up and he will want big $$....for sitting. __________________ ---lifetime skin

04-13-2004, 08:55 PM	#1
Cush Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 963	Huddle Report Mock Draft http://www.thehuddlereport.com/2004DRAFT/REmock.htm CHARGERS trade #1 & #66 to REDSKINS for #5 and OT Chris Samuels 01) Washington: Eli Manning QB Miss BILLS trade #13 to REDSKINS for QB Patrick Ramsey 13: Washington: Vince Wilfork DT, Miami

04-13-2004, 08:58 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	ok this makes no sense whatsoever

04-13-2004, 09:01 PM	#4
Jamaican'Skin The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Age: 38 Posts: 2,418	That is possibly the most random, inaccurate thing I have ever seen.

04-13-2004, 09:02 PM	#5
Showtime Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8	Would anyone want Manning more than Ramsey? Not me. Ramsey has a rocket arm, is tough, and is smart. Anyways, Matty K is right - this makes no sense at all. We might as well draft Clarett with our #5 pick instead . .

04-13-2004, 09:28 PM	#6
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	I dont think many people want to get rid of Ramsey, but if he isnt going to play for the next two to three years then mabye we should get somethign for him. I dont want to do that, but Gibbs likes his vetts and Brunell is probably going to start. I dont know if Manning would be the QB to get though. Id rather them get Taylor with five. Then trade Ramsey to get a pick then get a QB. Then we didnt get rid of our pick, and Samuels and Gardner. We could still get rid of Gardner then and mabye our pick form next year and get some dline help. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-13-2004, 09:54 PM	#7
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Even though I'd rather keep him, if we traded Ramsey, how about to Pittsburgh, trade that pick down to get a later 1st round pick and a second/or 3rd and use the new 1st round pick to draft J.P. Losman, who took Ramsey's place at Tulane and is supposed to be stronger and more mobile than Ramsey.

04-13-2004, 10:04 PM	#9
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	we are not taking a QB, Gibb's does not want a rookie backup, he brought in brunell because after 2 year's he felt ramsey was still to young, we are not in a rebuilding mode we are a win now team drafting a young QB goes against all that.

04-13-2004, 11:04 PM	#11
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Much of the Ramsey trade rumors depend on how much Gibbs would like to draft and develop a QB of his very own. Judging from what Gibbs has already said, Ramsey isn't going anywhere. I was going to say that Ramsey was a Spurrier guy, but that wasn't even the case. Ramsey was Snyder and Cerrato's guy. Spurrier didn't have any decision to take Ramsey. In fact, if you remember, Ramsey was almost traded to the Bears after holding out.

04-14-2004, 12:42 AM	#13
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Its that or we pay Brunell big money for sitting now. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-14-2004, 09:00 AM	#14
skins93 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 54 Posts: 14	If this were to happen, although it seems somewhat unlikely, I really like it after letting it sink in. Here are the reasons: -Ramsey is going to sit the majority of the time over the next couple of years. Why not get something now for him? -No one can say Ramsey is a true franchise QB (IMO he's not mobile, not accurate enough, can't read defenses all that well) -Hassellbeck might have shown Gibbs enough to be a decent #2 for now. -Manning is a franchise QB who can ride the pine for a year (Jay Schroeder was a backup who played in his 2nd year) -Samuels and Ramsey would really help the cap situation plus it would show agents like Sexton the door -We would still get a needed DT who has good upside Overall, it may not make sense, but think about it for a moment...

04-14-2004, 09:27 AM	#15
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Ok, I'm a big Ramsey supporter (I still don't like the whole trade for Brunell) BUT if there was any quarterback I would want in his place, it's Eli Manning. I don't know if you guys remember, but when Peyton was coming out of Tennessee, the whispers on the approach to draft day were to the effect that he(Peyton) was highly overrated. Now, after a hell of a college career at a second-tier school playing in the SEC, arguably the best conference, on average over the last few years; the same thing is being said about Eli, with Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers taking turns playing the role of Ryan Leaf . Remember, Ole Miss came two missed short field goals from beating National Champ's LSU. Point is, the kid's a winner, he's got a proven track record, all the physical ability you need (better than Peyton), no character flaws, and the pedigree from hell. When you take into account that Ramsey probably doesn't feel too good about sitting after taking a shellacking for the team during Spurrier's chuck and duck schemes last year, it might be best just to get a good, high value pick in a deep draft. WIth the Bill's pick we could still get some actual quality on D-Line, our biggest need right now. I'd like to say "just trust the front office" but who the hell would do such a crazy thing?

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