Negativity

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2005, 06:01 PM

This is a discussion forum, so it wouldn't be much without the discussion... but there's something to be said for intelligent discourse as opposed to knee jerk reactions. I don't think anyone expects a lot of high hopes after a tough loss, but the complete overreactions that are becoming more and more commonplace on this site are starting to get annoying. Honestly, if you're thought is "I hate this fucking team so much, our coach is an idiot and our QB is the worst in the NFL..." why do you consider yourself a Redskins fan? These comments are not aimed at any level-headed critics on the site, just those who have zero to add except for constant negativity.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-20-2005, 06:04 PM

I agree that complete overreactions are unwarranted, but I truly believe this is it. Even if we WERE to make the playoffs through some galatic miracle, we're far too streaky to do anything.

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2005, 06:06 PM

I agree with that. I was just referring to the fairweather fans out there who seem to only follow the redskins so that they have something to bitch about. It gets to be like, "ok, you're dissappointed, I get it. Is there anything intelligent to add? No? Move on."

skinsguy · 11-20-2005, 06:10 PM

BB,

I hear ya about the knee jerk reactions, but take it from someone who has been accused of being blindly optimistic, I believe our season is in grave danger after today's loss. It's not necessarily the mathematical aspect as it is as much an aspect of emotion and confidence. I believe this loss took alot out of this team today. I believe our defense is falling apart and probably the overall team morale is probably quite low at this point.

Don't get me wrong, I have alot of faith in Coach Gibbs, but I think there are obvious holes that still need to be filled, and at this point, we're not ready to be a playoff team quite yet.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-20-2005, 06:13 PM

Uh oh. All of us optimists are starting to pack up shop.

Oh well, maybe we'll find someone good in the second round.

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

It's not necessarily the mathematical aspect as it is as much an aspect of emotion and confidence. I believe this loss took alot out of this team today.

I had the thought that the strength of this team was to win the close games, but that's not happening. That's not proving to be the case. At this point, I'm actually looking to the mathematical aspect to give me hope, because, as you said, I don't see intangibles...

SUNRA · 11-20-2005, 06:15 PM

We all know when the shit hits the fan, a lot of so-called fans take off their jerseys. Some take off of work and just soak in depression. I 'm built a lot different than that. I have watched this team beat the teams they should have loss to and get embarrassed by the ass out teams that shouldn't even be on the same field as us. But that's football and why we watch it every week. Gibbs and Williams have got to sit down and re-evaluate the offense and defense from the top to the bottom. Their should be a half-season evaluation of each and every player and the conclusion should be quick and decisive. Frost, Jacobs and Harris should be replaced immediately. Lastly, we have to get a pass-rushing DT as soon as the draft begins next year.

skinsguy · 11-20-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Uh oh. All of us optimists are starting to pack up shop.

Oh well, maybe we'll find someone good in the second round.

Not packing up shop mind you, just looking at the big picture. I really, honestly, hope I get to eat a big, big helping of crow when the Redskins do make the playoffs, but Gibbs is going to have to shake things up big time this week if we still have a shot at making the playoffs.

RedskinRat · 11-20-2005, 06:16 PM

I've been positive since we first lost Coach Gibbs, I've had enough.

Now I'm being realistic. We're a bad team.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-20-2005, 06:16 PM

I completely agree. Harris has dropped off immediately and Frost hasn't been doing shit when we need a big return (hoping for a Tupa return next year). Jacobs got his chance and didn't do much, whether it was a game plan thing or a "he's just not good" thing.

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2005, 06:17 PM

I had posted this somewhere else... Is Gibbs doing the play calling or is the OC? If it's the coordinator, maybe JG needs to takeover.

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2005, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

I've been positive since we first lost Coach Gibbs, I've had enough.

Now I'm being realistic. We're a bad team.

I think anytime you win half your games, you're average. I think that we're bad compared with the overestimations of many on this site (including myself).

SmootSmack · 11-20-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I had posted this somewhere else... Is Gibbs doing the play calling or is the OC? If it's the coordinator, maybe JG needs to takeover.

As is my understanding, Don Breaux is the offensive coordinator and he makes the calls. And, of course, Gibbs has the power to overturn them but probably rarely does. But they were saying today that Jack Burns and Joe Bugel have input on play calling also. And I'm sure Musgrave does too

So really, this might be a case of too many cooks in the kitchen

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2005, 06:20 PM

I just thought we were getting cute with the three consecutive pass plays when we should have been pounding it. Portis was running strong today...

SmootSmack · 11-20-2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I just thought we were getting cute with the three consecutive pass plays when we should have been pounding it. Portis was running strong today...

When was that?

11-20-2005, 06:01 PM	#1
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Negativity This is a discussion forum, so it wouldn't be much without the discussion... but there's something to be said for intelligent discourse as opposed to knee jerk reactions. I don't think anyone expects a lot of high hopes after a tough loss, but the complete overreactions that are becoming more and more commonplace on this site are starting to get annoying. Honestly, if you're thought is "I hate this fucking team so much, our coach is an idiot and our QB is the worst in the NFL..." why do you consider yourself a Redskins fan? These comments are not aimed at any level-headed critics on the site, just those who have zero to add except for constant negativity.

11-20-2005, 06:04 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Negativity I agree that complete overreactions are unwarranted, but I truly believe this is it. Even if we WERE to make the playoffs through some galatic miracle, we're far too streaky to do anything. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-20-2005, 06:06 PM	#3
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Negativity I agree with that. I was just referring to the fairweather fans out there who seem to only follow the redskins so that they have something to bitch about. It gets to be like, "ok, you're dissappointed, I get it. Is there anything intelligent to add? No? Move on."

11-20-2005, 06:10 PM	#4
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Negativity BB, I hear ya about the knee jerk reactions, but take it from someone who has been accused of being blindly optimistic, I believe our season is in grave danger after today's loss. It's not necessarily the mathematical aspect as it is as much an aspect of emotion and confidence. I believe this loss took alot out of this team today. I believe our defense is falling apart and probably the overall team morale is probably quite low at this point. Don't get me wrong, I have alot of faith in Coach Gibbs, but I think there are obvious holes that still need to be filled, and at this point, we're not ready to be a playoff team quite yet. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

11-20-2005, 06:13 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Negativity Uh oh. All of us optimists are starting to pack up shop. Oh well, maybe we'll find someone good in the second round. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-20-2005, 06:15 PM	#7
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: Negativity We all know when the shit hits the fan, a lot of so-called fans take off their jerseys. Some take off of work and just soak in depression. I 'm built a lot different than that. I have watched this team beat the teams they should have loss to and get embarrassed by the ass out teams that shouldn't even be on the same field as us. But that's football and why we watch it every week. Gibbs and Williams have got to sit down and re-evaluate the offense and defense from the top to the bottom. Their should be a half-season evaluation of each and every player and the conclusion should be quick and decisive. Frost, Jacobs and Harris should be replaced immediately. Lastly, we have to get a pass-rushing DT as soon as the draft begins next year. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970 Last edited by SUNRA; 11-20-2005 at 06:39 PM.

11-20-2005, 06:16 PM	#9
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Negativity I've been positive since we first lost Coach Gibbs, I've had enough. Now I'm being realistic. We're a bad team.

11-20-2005, 06:16 PM	#10
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Negativity I completely agree. Harris has dropped off immediately and Frost hasn't been doing shit when we need a big return (hoping for a Tupa return next year). Jacobs got his chance and didn't do much, whether it was a game plan thing or a "he's just not good" thing. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-20-2005, 06:17 PM	#11
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Negativity I had posted this somewhere else... Is Gibbs doing the play calling or is the OC? If it's the coordinator, maybe JG needs to takeover.

11-20-2005, 06:20 PM	#14
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Negativity I just thought we were getting cute with the three consecutive pass plays when we should have been pounding it. Portis was running strong today...

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