Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes?

paulskinsfan · 12-08-2005, 09:58 AM

"Early word is that the official cap number for 2006 will land somewhere between $92 million and $95 million per team, up from $85 million this year and higher than the previously anticipated range of $89 million to $90 million.

Even at $95 million, several teams need to trim more than $20 million in 2006 payroll. The Jets and Raiders each exceed $120 million, and the Broncos have more than $118 million committed to next season.

The Chiefs are at $114 million, and the Redskins are at $112 million."

The above quote is from profootballtalk.com. So, knowing this who goes and who stays? I think Hall goes, Phillip Daniels goes, Taylor Jacobs but who else? Im not a capologist, but there are those on here who are, so who do you guys think is going, restructuring, etc.

12thMan · 12-08-2005, 10:21 AM

I'm not sure what the contract numbers are, but I would have to guess the following may not be here next year.

Reynaldo Wynn or Phillip Daniels?
LaDell Betts (maybe out)
Patrick Ramsey (though I'm not sure how much cap space he's eating up)
Warrick Holdman (again, probably not eating us much cap)
Matt Bowen

Beyond that, you have to figure they will restructure some deals to make that number fit.

onlydarksets · 12-08-2005, 10:25 AM

According to the cap figures on this website:
Wynn = $3.45 million
Daniels = $2.6 million
Ramsey = $3.38 million
Betts = $810k
Holdman = $0k
Bowen = $2.4 million

onlydarksets · 12-08-2005, 10:29 AM

Samuels and Lavar are our two biggest hits. I don't see Lavar restructuring. Samuels maybe, but he has another 6 years on his contract and I haven't heard his name mentioned.

MTK · 12-08-2005, 10:30 AM

Crazy Canuck sent me new cap sheets to post, I'll get them posted tonight.

Just looking at the roster really quick, here's a few names that jump out to me for potential cuts and/or restructures:

Noble
Wynn
Daniels
Hall
Harris
Bowen
Raymer
Friedman
Frost

bertoskins · 12-08-2005, 10:31 AM

cut the following
1. patten
2. ramsey
3. wynn
4. holdman
5. john hall
6. bowen

12thMan · 12-08-2005, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Crazy Canuck sent me new cap sheets to post, I'll get them posted tonight.

Just looking at the roster really quick, here's a few names that jump out to me for potential cuts and/or restructures:

Noble
Wynn
Daniels
Hall
Harris
Bowen
Raymer
Friedman
Frost

I think Noble, Bown, Raymer or Friedman will be gone altogether.

amorentz · 12-08-2005, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Samuels and Lavar are our two biggest hits. I don't see Lavar restructuring. Samuels maybe, but he has another 6 years on his contract and I haven't heard his name mentioned.

The cap info on this site is also old, I believe and still takes into account LaVar's $6.5m roster bonus for 2006. This has been changed to $3.25m bonus in 2007, so his cap number looks a lot better.

Additionally, ESPN reported recently that the 2006 cap is expected to be approximately $100m. I honestly think that we are not in terrible shape, though some trimming of the fat is always good so we can go after free agents.

onlydarksets · 12-08-2005, 10:36 AM

Hall and Harris are no-brainers. Bowen might be as well.

amorentz · 12-08-2005, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think Noble, Bown, Raymer or Friedman will be gone altogether.

Friedman has already been released to make room for Antonio Brown's re-signing.

amorentz · 12-08-2005, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Hall and Harris are no-brainers. Bowen might be as well.

Not to keep responding on this thread

but I really think we should keep Harris. I think he is an excellent nickel corner, who has enough starting experience to be a spot starter should Rogers get hurt next year. I just dont know that you can get that much more of an experienced, decent corner for $2.4m. But I definitely agree that something is wrong with Hall and we need to replace him...he just dont look right.

onlydarksets · 12-08-2005, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amorentz

Not to keep responding on this thread

but I really think we should keep Harris. I think he is an excellent nickel corner, who has enough starting experience to be a spot starter should Rogers get hurt next year. I just dont know that you can get that much more of an experienced, decent corner for $2.4m. But I definitely agree that something is wrong with Hall and we need to replace him...he just dont look right.

Hey - at least you aren't quoting yourself yet!

I think he's a decent nickel corner, but I disagree that he can step into fill for Rogers. His tackling is abysmal and he just doesn't seem to be that good (based on his play this season). I think we can upgrade (somewhat - not substantially) for the amount we are paying Harris.

I agree about Hall - he just hasn't recovered. We need to drop at least ONE kickoff in the endzone this season!

Bowen I just haven't seen much this year. I know he was hurt for a bit, but it seems like we could survive without him. Unless, of course, ST ends up in jail.

paulskinsfan · 12-08-2005, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amorentz

Not to keep responding on this thread

but I really think we should keep Harris. I think he is an excellent nickel corner, who has enough starting experience to be a spot starter should Rogers get hurt next year. I just dont know that you can get that much more of an experienced, decent corner for $2.4m. But I definitely agree that something is wrong with Hall and we need to replace him...he just dont look right.

I have to agree, as much as Harris has been burnt this year as our No. 2 corner, he still is above average nickle back and can match up well with a No. 3 wideout. That being said, you would hope that in case of injury your No. 3 corner could move up to No. 2 without much drop off, but that clearly is not the case with Harris.

MTK · 12-08-2005, 11:03 AM

I'm not a fan of Harris being cut because I do think he's a quality nicklel, but his '06 base salary is a hefty $2.75M which has to make one think he could be on the block simply because of that fairly large cap #.

paulskinsfan · 12-08-2005, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not a fan of Harris being cut because I do think he's a quality nicklel, but his '06 base salary is a hefty $2.75M which has to make one think he could be on the block simply because of that fairly large cap #.

Agreed. That's way too much for Harris.

12-08-2005, 09:58 AM	#1
paulskinsfan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West VA Posts: 726	Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes? "Early word is that the official cap number for 2006 will land somewhere between $92 million and $95 million per team, up from $85 million this year and higher than the previously anticipated range of $89 million to $90 million. Even at $95 million, several teams need to trim more than $20 million in 2006 payroll. The Jets and Raiders each exceed $120 million, and the Broncos have more than $118 million committed to next season. The Chiefs are at $114 million, and the Redskins are at $112 million." The above quote is from profootballtalk.com. So, knowing this who goes and who stays? I think Hall goes, Phillip Daniels goes, Taylor Jacobs but who else? Im not a capologist, but there are those on here who are, so who do you guys think is going, restructuring, etc.

12-08-2005, 10:21 AM	#2
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes? I'm not sure what the contract numbers are, but I would have to guess the following may not be here next year. Reynaldo Wynn or Phillip Daniels? LaDell Betts (maybe out) Patrick Ramsey (though I'm not sure how much cap space he's eating up) Warrick Holdman (again, probably not eating us much cap) Matt Bowen Beyond that, you have to figure they will restructure some deals to make that number fit.

12-08-2005, 10:25 AM	#3
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes? According to the cap figures on this website: Wynn = $3.45 million Daniels = $2.6 million Ramsey = $3.38 million Betts = $810k Holdman = $0k Bowen = $2.4 million

12-08-2005, 10:29 AM	#4
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes? Samuels and Lavar are our two biggest hits. I don't see Lavar restructuring. Samuels maybe, but he has another 6 years on his contract and I haven't heard his name mentioned.

12-08-2005, 10:30 AM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes? Crazy Canuck sent me new cap sheets to post, I'll get them posted tonight. Just looking at the roster really quick, here's a few names that jump out to me for potential cuts and/or restructures: Noble Wynn Daniels Hall Harris Bowen Raymer Friedman Frost

12-08-2005, 10:31 AM	#6
bertoskins Special Teams Join Date: May 2004 Location: philippines Age: 51 Posts: 184	Re: Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes? cut the following 1. patten 2. ramsey 3. wynn 4. holdman 5. john hall 6. bowen

12-08-2005, 10:36 AM	#9
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes? Hall and Harris are no-brainers. Bowen might be as well.

12-08-2005, 11:03 AM	#14
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes? I'm not a fan of Harris being cut because I do think he's a quality nicklel, but his '06 base salary is a hefty $2.75M which has to make one think he could be on the block simply because of that fairly large cap #.

Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes?

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