Looking at the draft.

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Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

I actually prefer Josh Allen to Baker Mayfield. Grudens system requires a disciplined QB that reads progressions and i credit a lot of Mayfields success to his supporting cast members.
Mayfield does have the ability to work off script, but he has a weak arm and his long ball is suspect.

If you have a bias against spread QB prospects then your gonna have issues with Baker. I have no issues with spread QBs. Too many have been successful that it doesn't matter to me.

No doubt that Allen plays in a more 'pro-style' offense and will be more 'pro-ready'. But, from the cut-ups I've watched of Allen he's been scattershot and inconsistent with his accuracy. I think he should be more productive and efficient being the big man in his little conference. From a production standpoint he doesn't even match up to Brett Smith. And Allen plays with quite a bit of adlib himself...its actually one of the positives I like about Allen's game. He can move, and has a freakin hand cannon. But, he's raw.

When I look at the college prospects I chart games. The surrounding talent or lack of talent doesn't really impact my grading. If you're doing some statistical regression/projection then his cast will matter. But, I'm not.
And the supporting cast argument is another imho generic knock that gets tossed around that doesn't hold much weight. If you're the QB for a good program you're gonna play with talent. And not all QBs on good teams are even pro prospects. I think I even recall hearing the supporting cast knock against Watson.

Weak arm? Definitely disagree there.


Suspect long ball? Again completely disagree. Actually iirc he's near the top of PFF's charting when it comes to deep ball accuracy.

Also I think Baker will be around towards the bottom of the 1st maybe even top of the 2nd. Being short and playing in the spread should be enough to keep him in that range.

Lets also talk about his antics and who knows how much willingness he has to be tamed, disciplined and developed into a pro ready QB?

I have no clue. I don't even get into off the field stuff when I look at draft prospects. There is no way for me to have any clue. Guy could be a complete turd or he could just be a fun loving college kid. I went to College Park, i'm not judging anybody. I know a successful upstanding citizen that once kick in the window of car because it had a Duke sticker on it but he was 20 y/o then. Any of these prospects could be a turd/or not. I don't know.