Stop blaming the coaches especially Greg Williams

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Having the 30th-ranked defense only proves that Gregg has lost his touch.

It's a mighty big leap to say we are now ranked 30th on defense and therefore Williams has lost his touch. How do we know it's not the injury-bug and personnel issues that have caused the defense to suffer? Archuleta and Wright are total busts. Prioleou (our nickel) went down before playing a single snap on defense. Griffin, Salave'a, Springs, Rogers, and Marshall have all been bitten by the injury bug.

If we suck next year on defense, then I'll be prepared to guess that Williams has lost his touch. Until then, I'm not willing to say a guy with Williams' resume has lost his touch based on 9 games in one season.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

It's a mighty big leap to say we are now ranked 30th on defense and therefore Williams has lost his touch. How do we know it's not the injury-bug and personnel issues that have caused the defense to suffer? Archuleta and Wright are total busts. Prioleou (our nickel) went down before playing a single snap on defense. Griffin, Salave'a, Springs, Rogers, and Marshall have all been bitten by the injury bug.

If we suck next year on defense, then I'll be prepared to guess that Williams has lost his touch. Until then, I'm not willing to say a guy with Williams' resume has lost his touch based on 9 games in one season.

Every team's got injuries, so that's no excuse. But you're right: One year doesn't make a trend. If he sucks this bad next year, he's lost his touch. If he rebounds, forget I ever said he lost his touch.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by chris36

The coaches are to blame. No other organization has coaches that have more control than the Redskins. I have never liked GW's style of defense, because it has always been vulnerable to the big play. The coaches for other teams dont hire the players like they do in Washington. On top of the players playing like s**t, they are undisciplined and kill themselves with penalties.

If you know anything about football you can see that Williams is not the problem. The playeres are playing horrible. And although we are giving up a lot of yardage we are not giving up a ton of points. I blame more of this season on the offense.

[chris36]

I will tell you one thing, we cant blame Archuleta, because I dont think he ever played.

[skinsguy]

Sometimes when things are going wrong, you tend to lose sight of the things you know you can do right. I think that is what has happened to this defense. Everybody on the D is trying to scramble to make THE PLAY that turns things around instead of playing as a team...swarming around the ball, and helping each other out in the secondary on coverage. They need to go back to basics.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Sometimes when things are going wrong, you tend to lose sight of the things you know you can do right. I think that is what has happened to this defense. Everybody on the D is trying to scramble to make THE PLAY that turns things around instead of playing as a team...swarming around the ball, and helping each other out in the secondary on coverage. They need to go back to basics.

Yes, we need to defensive coaches to teach Sean Taylor to tackle (in bounds, preferably) and cover. He's exciting when he has the ball; maybe we should switch him to wide receiver. Wait, who would throw him the ball deep? ARE?

[chris36]

Hey, what defenses, other than ours, has he coached, that was realy good?

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by chris36

Hey, what defenses, other than ours, has he coached, that was realy good?

wow, you're an idiot

He was the defensive coordinator in Tennessee when they went to the super bowl. They always had a top defense when he was there. Then he built a good defense when he was the head coach in buffalo too.

edit: Here are all his defenses since he first became the defensive coordinator in Tennessee in 1997

......................................Yards Points
1997 Tennessee Oilers........ 22nd. 12th
1998 Tennessee Oilers........ 14th.. 12th
1999 Tennessee Titans....... 18th.. 15th
2000 Tennessee Titans....... 2nd... 2nd
2001 Buffalo Bills................ 21st.. 29th
2002 Buffalo Bills................ 15th.. 27th
2003 Buffalo Bills................ 2nd... 5th
2004 Washington Redskins... 3rd.... 5th
2005 Washington Redskins... 9th.... 9th

He has improved the defenses a lot every place he has gone to.

[chris36]

The defense was ranked fith that year. His offense was ranked 31st. That means opposing teams had to score, very little.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by chris36

The defense was ranked fith that year. His offense was ranked 31st. That means opposing teams had to score, very little.

I don't know how you can judge Williams' defense in Buffalo considering that a few minutes ago you didn't even know where else he coached. BTW, the Buffalo D was fierce.

[RobH4413]

Let's put this into context.... What really is taken to consideration when talking about GW? The real issue is whether or not you want to keep him. As an owner... You've got to hold on to him. He is a proven NFL caliber coach, and one bad year plagued by injuries, does not require you abandon ship.

Whereas you can't use Pierson's injury as an excuse... don't exclude it as a non-factor.

The blame game can go to anyone... but if you ask me I think the problem is more likely the talent on the field, as opposed to the coaching. Does some of that burden go onto the coach, absolutley... but he by no mean has "lost his touch".

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by chris36

Hey, what defenses, other than ours, has he coached, that was realy good?

Are you serious? You aren't that guy that was on CNN who had total memory loss?

[Riggo's Ranger]

Come on fellas! This is the third season of Gibb II! This is HIS team. As head coach, he has assembled this staff and this roster! It just ain't working! Gibbs II is now 19-22! Don't hate the players, if anything hate their employer or the coach who wanted them. A good GM might have made a difference.

[61cad]

Originally Posted by Riggo's Ranger

Come on fellas! This is the third season of Gibb II! This is HIS team. As head coach, he has assembled this staff and this roster! It just ain't working! Gibbs II is now 19-22! Don't hate the players, if anything hate their employer or the coach who wanted them. A good GM might have made a difference.

Man!

How dare you stab Gibbs in the heart. (LOL)

I thought you get called "stupid" on this site for bad mouthing Gibbs.

So, not everyone is in love with Gibbs + 2.

How can this be?

[chris36]

OK, those are the defenses I thought we were speaking of. The 2000 Titans defense was ranked 15th. The buffalo Defenses were fairly good, but they lost alot of games. I think calling me an idiot for asking a question, is pretty immature. I am not an encyclopedia. I just wanted a little clarification on what defenses we were speaking of. I am not a tremendous fan of GW's style of defense. We were vulnerable to the big play last year to. I like old fashion defenses that put pressure on the quarter back with the front four. Blitzing is cool, but you cant live on it.