Stop blaming the coaches especially Greg Williams

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Williams' defense is a proven one. Until this year, Williams has fielded great defenses for numerous teams for numerous seasons. For some reason, it isn't working this year.

Having the 30th-ranked defense only proves that Gregg has lost his touch.

[Citizens for 81]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Having the 30th-ranked defense only proves that Gregg has lost his touch.

WTF? Without Williams, the skins miss the playoffs last year and are lucky to win any games the year before that.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Citizens for 81

WTF? Without Williams, the skins miss the playoffs last year and are lucky to win any games the year before that.

I'm saying he's lost his touch this year. C'mon man, we're nearly last in the league in yards/game and pass defense. You think he should win accolades for that? Last year is long gone; it means nothing today.

[Citizens for 81]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

I'm saying he's lost his touch this year. C'mon man, we're nearly last in the league in yards/game and pass defense. You think he should win accolades for that? Last year is long gone; it means nothing today.

Last time I saw them play Williams wasn't wearing a jersey. The players on the field have to nut-up.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Citizens for 81

Last time I saw them play Williams wasn't wearing a jersey. The players on the field have to nut-up.

But you just gave Williams credit for us making the playoffs last year. I know he's a solid coach, but he's having a lousy season. I say when coaching changes come, maybe the year after next, bring in a new, young set of coaches and build for the future.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

I'm saying he's lost his touch this year. C'mon man, we're nearly last in the league in yards/game and pass defense. You think he should win accolades for that? Last year is long gone; it means nothing today.

Not to gang-jump you... but seriously...

There is such a thing as a fluke season. If someone wins 100 superbowls, and then doesn't make the playoffs the next season... do you fire him? Has he "lost his touch".

Your same reasoning could apply to Andy Reid's inept team last year. There were alot of injuries, unfortunate cirumstances, etc... yet he still is a great coach, and in no way lost his touch. I think GW has a very similar situation with his defense.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Not to gang-jump you... but seriously...

There is such a thing as a fluke season. If someone wins 100 superbowls, and then doesn't make the playoffs the next season... do you fire him? Has he "lost his touch".

Your same reasoning could apply to Andy Reid's inept team last year. There were alot of injuries, unfortunate cirumstances, etc... yet he still is a great coach, and in no way lost his touch. I think GW has a very similar situation with his defense.

OK, then. Let's say - for argument's sake - that last year was a fluke season. Maybe we got totally lucky going 10-6 and making the playoffs. Maybe we are a 6-10 team like the 2004 squad. We're certainly headed down that road again.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Having the 30th-ranked defense only proves that Gregg has lost his touch.

It's a mighty big leap to say we are now ranked 30th on defense and therefore Williams has lost his touch. How do we know it's not the injury-bug and personnel issues that have caused the defense to suffer? Archuleta and Wright are total busts. Prioleou (our nickel) went down before playing a single snap on defense. Griffin, Salave'a, Springs, Rogers, and Marshall have all been bitten by the injury bug.

If we suck next year on defense, then I'll be prepared to guess that Williams has lost his touch. Until then, I'm not willing to say a guy with Williams' resume has lost his touch based on 9 games in one season.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

It's a mighty big leap to say we are now ranked 30th on defense and therefore Williams has lost his touch. How do we know it's not the injury-bug and personnel issues that have caused the defense to suffer? Archuleta and Wright are total busts. Prioleou (our nickel) went down before playing a single snap on defense. Griffin, Salave'a, Springs, Rogers, and Marshall have all been bitten by the injury bug.

If we suck next year on defense, then I'll be prepared to guess that Williams has lost his touch. Until then, I'm not willing to say a guy with Williams' resume has lost his touch based on 9 games in one season.

Every team's got injuries, so that's no excuse. But you're right: One year doesn't make a trend. If he sucks this bad next year, he's lost his touch. If he rebounds, forget I ever said he lost his touch.

[Citizens for 81]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Every team's got injuries, so that's no excuse. But you're right: One year doesn't make a trend. If he sucks this bad next year, he's lost his touch. If he rebounds, forget I ever said he lost his touch.

Fair enough.