The D. Hall incident

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Its really sad to see DeAngelo surrounded by the entire Falcon team and not one player from the defense comes over to help him or come to his defense. Just goes to show how f-ed up our locker room is.

It looked to me like other Redskins were not aware of the situation. As soon as they were aware, Tryon, AH, and others came over to help.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It looked to me like other Redskins were not aware of the situation. As soon as they were aware, Tryon, AH, and others came over to help.

yeah i agree with this. its just a hunch until some other skins players are asked but with the play being alll the way over on the falcons sideline im guessin it wasnt that the skins players didnt want to catch d hall's back but that they didnt know a shoving match was breaking out with a 20 on 1 status.

im sure a skins player or two will comment on what thye saw or thought was happening.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Its really sad to see DeAngelo surrounded by the entire Falcon team and not one player from the defense comes over to help him or come to his defense. Just goes to show how f-ed up our locker room is.

I'm sure when they all started pushing most players thought it would be done as fast as it started. When it continued the team came to help him out and then the D line came running in to help Hall. This has nothing to do with our locker room.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm sure when they all started pushing most players thought it would be done as fast as it started. When it continued the team came to help him out and then the D line came running in to help Hall. This has nothing to do with our locker room.

Once the incident starting getting ugly our guys went over. I agree this whole idea that our guys "didn't care" is garbage.

[warpaint]

What is the strenght trainer grabbing Halls pads for, the Falcons clearly hate Hall. The way the team jumped on him proves it so, they just showed how low they are from top to bottom.

Im am not a Hall superfan, but come on every game played every week when an opposing player is on the sidline there are words being exchanged or something. No team ever jumps on a player like that.

[BDBohnzie]

All the writers...I see 3. And for the most part, I'm willing to bet they are writing without getting both sides of the story and going with what they think happened.

There are 3 sides to every story. In the case, we have Hall's side, the Falcons' side, and the truth. Obviously Hall has his demons from the past, and obviously the writers above see who was involved and immediately link it to Hall's Past as opposed to getting all the facts before writing.

Quite frankly I imagine Hall followed up on the play in efforts to get Landry out of the melee. Ensuing actions led to either Hall or a Falcons' player talking trash, and then further melee commenced, knowing that they'd either get a rise out of Hall.

I'm not trying to discredit Hall, but I'm not going to place 100% of the blame on him either. Yeah he's a punk, but that doesn't mean that he's going to cause a strength coach to hold him against his will every single time he's on the opposite sideline either.

[mlmdub130]

anyone hear lavar today? when he goes on thoose rants he gets me fired up, i would love to see him have some part in consulting with the team, or just be the teams official hype man, that said i read the breakdown on dcsportsbog and i just watched it a couple of times and hall was over there when the play ended and granted he probably said something, he isn't really know for being quite, it looks like the atl strength coach might have been a huge instigator in the fight and mike smith should be fined ALOT he is a hc and he should have been calming everything down instead of starting more s, and seriously tryon is the first guy to help d hall, tryon? c'mon man, and while i do hate on fat albert a lot when he showed up he pushed that one guy and the whole atl team and staff took three steps back, he is on big mother f-er he was about a fott taller than everyone else in the skirmish

[Luxorreb]

Hall should spend more time concentrating about things happening on the field. He should have NEVER been on that sideline. As others have said he seeks drama and feeds his own agenda above the team. Fire him.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

Hall should spend more time concentrating about things happening on the field. He should have NEVER been on that sideline. As others have said he seeks drama and feeds his own agenda above the team. Fire him.

Really? So he shouldn't have been running towards the QB with the ball?

[htownskinfan]

I dont think anything will happen to the atl coaches,were getting no respect and no calls this yr.Did the league ever say what the rule is on that fair catch ARE dropped? this game and the last game there were 2 very late 5 yrds out of bounds tackles on our guys with no call

[sandtrapjack]

Although after seeing the game and the replay of the event, it appears that Mike Smith was way out of line. He should have never been involved to begin with. Wasn't it Roger Goodell who said he would hold "coaches and executives to a higher standard." I am curious to see how serious he was with that statement. Smith should be held accountable to a certain degree.

But the devils advocate in me also thinks that the incident would never have gotten that much out of hand if Hall would have stayed away from the sideline. He really had no business running in there like that.

Yes, you can argue that Hall was "watching out for his team mate", trying to pull him out of there. But at the end of the day, if anything would have happened to Landry after that hit, it would be the leagues repsonsibility, not Halls.

When Hall charged into that sideline, that was the match, Landrys hit was the kerosene.

Keep those 2 apart, there is no fire.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

When Hall charged into that sideline, that was the match, Landrys hit was the kerosene.

you have to watch the replay and keep your eye on hall before the hit. hall was chasing down the play, running hard. he was already on the sideline before the ish hit the fan. he never ran over or onto the falcons sideline.

[MTK]

Hall was chasing down the play and ended up on the sideline, it's not like he just ran over there at some random time in the game.

[sandtrapjack]

Heres an interesting observation from Jerome Bettis off SI.COM

Originally Posted by SI.COM

I see how the scuffle between Atlanta and Washington started. Matt Ryan got hit a little late on the sideline, and when you see that happen to the leader of your team you start thinking all of the worst things. No other single player has a bigger part in whether you win or lose. I know how much it scares you as a player, and so you want to retaliate. I get that. It's going to happen. Coaches understand that.

But you're entering a danger zone when you get involved as a coach, Mike Smith. Think about this in terms of war. When you see your general go to the line, all hands are on deck. Smith got into the fray and every single Falcon was there in a heartbeat. Fine. But what happens next time? All of a sudden, it's in the head of every one of those Atlanta players: When someone crosses our sideline or touches our quarterback late, it's on. And it can't be that simple. I don't think Smith should be punished, per se, but he needs to come out and say he went too far before his own players get the wrong idea.

Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Heres an interesting observation from Jerome Bettis off SI.COM



Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com

I agree with Bettis, however I think the NFL should punish Smith. When he was asked about the situation, he flat out lied and made excuse for what happened. He should follow Bettis advice:

I don't think Smith should be punished, per se, but he needs to come out and say he went too far before his own players get the wrong idea.

Read more: Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com
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