How bad is our defense?

[dall-assblows]

i think this loss is bigger than last years versus the giants

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Our defense interiorly is weaker, slower and undersized in anymatchup vs. OL.
There are so many discipline problems with the D- I am embarassed to be a supporter of the colors. As I have said before this Defense is Vaginal (our offense is impotent).
Instead of adapting to our weakness' GWilliams would rather carry on as if we are fully intact and as ruthless and intimidating as ever. THAT IS THE MOST CRUCIAL ANALYSIS of WHY OUR PHILOSOPHY CONTINUES with such aggressiveness.
This team needs and F'N should have known from day 1, "Springs is out" sorry we can't blitz and take chances in 1 on 1's. Why is that?, b/c we just brought in Wright, Fox, Doughty, Archuletta, Rumph and other average/below average talents who have to learn our style,language, and presence. They arent even better tacklers than Springs or Prioleua. Im just upset that they are putting a team and gameplan they call "competent and able" when it is "disgracing and self destructive"
Why arent we switching to a 3-4 in more packages??? Let our LB cause disruption, DL isnt!, where is Rocky? I would like to see our LB even drop back into coverage. If this teams DL will not get to the QB on their own, then why are dismantling our coverage to make up for that??
It seems evident that we should force teams to run (our strength) and not send so much pressure-- It is taking us out of the game leaving responsibilities to guys like Wright/Rumph who need a Chaperone on every play. Sure leave the most unreliable guys back there to guard the 1st down or endzone.
Unbelievable, this team is coaching itself out of games and away from progressingto being a consistent unit.

The answer for next year has to be 3-4. I just dont understand why have an extra ineffective DT on the field (ehem.... Salavae ty)

[12thMan]

When is Rogers going to catch a damn ball. I have never in my life seen a corner consistently drop so many passes that have hit right in the damn mits!

It's getting old, week after week!

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

When is Rogers going to catch a damn ball. I have never in my life seen a corner consistently drop so many passes that have hit right in the damn mits!

It's getting old, week after week!

Had he caught that the tempo, attitude, gameplan of both teams, and mometum would have been in our favor. Way to rise to the occasion Redskins.
Typical fashion has returned of not seizing the moment to put ourselves in better places to win.

[SmootSmack]

It's hard to find any positives I know, but how about Taylor stripping Tiki of the ball trying to make something happen? He did his part there, if a teammate jumps on that ball it's a whole other ballgame

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

It's hard to find any positives I know, but how about Taylor stripping Tiki of the ball trying to make something happen? He did his part there, if a teammate jumps on that ball it's a whole other ballgame

2nd time he's done that this season. amazing to watch. sucks we couldn't capitalize in either game. its what happens when you're surrounded by career backups Wright, Rumph and yes Rogers.

[LadyT]

You can attack the defense's play all day long, but not many teams win games when they can only muster 3 points on the board. We have all these offensive weapons and that's the best we can do?

Sadly, Brunell reverted to his form of the first two games today. He had at least two passes that should have been picked but were not. And the O-line played poorly too. The only player on "O" who stepped up was Cooley.

The "D" didn't play well either, but they still held one of the league's best offenses to 19 points and 1 TD.

On a lot of days, that should be enough to win. But not when your offense can't do squat.

Today, the Skins didn't play with any fire or passion, unlike last week. Hard to stomach when you're playing an important divisional opponent.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by LadyT

The "D" didn't play well either, but they still held one of the league's best offenses to 19 points and 1 TD.

I don't know if "held" is necessarily the right word here. Did they hold or did the Giants O just not get it done in the red zone?

Plus the D gave up a 98 yard drive near the end of the first half that resulted in 3 more points than it should have. And they kicked off the 3rd quarter letting the Giants embark on an 8-minute drive resulting in a TD.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I don't know if "held" is necessarily the right word here. Did they hold or did the Giants O just not get it done in the red zone?

Plus the D gave up a 98 yard drive near the end of the first half that resulted in 3 more points than it should have. And they kicked off the 3rd quarter letting the Giants embark on an 8-minute drive resulting in a TD.

Yeah I think we were lucky to "hold" them to 19. We could have easily lost by alot more. If anyone is feeling good about the D today they need to have their head examined.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I don't know if "held" is necessarily the right word here. Did they hold or did the Giants O just not get it done in the red zone?

Plus the D gave up a 98 yard drive near the end of the first half that resulted in 3 more points than it should have. And they kicked off the 3rd quarter letting the Giants embark on an 8-minute drive resulting in a TD.

With the ball control being even more of a threat to us and ally to them did we threaten or force them to have to be physical, or play without caution or urgency????
Consuming so much time off the clock and driving downfield took more out of us and even FG's were TOO difficult to overcome. We coached ourselves out of the game. In saying that, maybe you all dont agree. But even if the Giants just had a better plan and executed it that would still support that we were outcoached. Every where we tried to go we were met with force and never turned around to disrupt their Offensive dominance as they rammed it up the Skins ASS. They got raped and bullied all day. We are somebodies bitch in this NFC EAST prison SHOWER.

[70Chip]

The defense couldn't get the Giants off the field, it's true. This is very frustrating to watch, but I can't blame this loss primarily on the defense. If someone had told me that the Giants were only going to score 19 points, I would have been pleasantly surprised and would have assumed we win the game.

In addition, if the offense shows up, I doubt we would have given up that many points. The offensive line is just too damn inconsistent. One week they're great and the next they're the worst in the league. I just don't get it. Who are the leaders of that group. It can't be Jansen because he's the epitome of inconsistency. Plus, he's off to Michigan every chance he gets. Somebody needs to start calling these people out. If we're going to play like this we may as well get Norv Turner back and really do it right.

You can see how the season will go. They'll beat Tenessee and everyone will tell them how great they are. Smiles all around and no preparation. Then they'll lose to Indy and on through to the end. You know what that comes to? 8 and 8. Unacceptable.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

The defense couldn't get the Giants off the field, it's true. This is very frustrating to watch, but I can't blame this loss primarily on the defense. If someone had told me that the Giants were only going to score 19 points, I would have been pleasantly surprised and would have assumed we win the game.

In addition, if the offense shows up, I doubt we would have given up that many points. The offensive line is just too damn inconsistent. One week they're great and the next they're the worst in the league. I just don't get it. Who are the leaders of that group. It can't be Jansen because he's the epitome of inconsistency. Plus, he's off to Michigan every chance he gets. Somebody needs to start calling these people out. If we're going to play like this we may as well get Norv Turner back and really do it right.

You can see how the season will go. They'll beat Tenessee and everyone will tell them how great they are. Smiles all around and no preparation. Then they'll lose to Indy and on through to the end. You know what that comes to? 8 and 8. Unacceptable.

Unacceptable indeed. FUCK THEM. I never would have thought we would try to run so many counters against a team with a solid pair of DE's and 2 LB's. The weak spot was the middle of their DL and getting a blocker on Pierce should have been the point of attack. We acquired TJ who should have been implemented by now to combat and be payback to their defense in the same way Jacobs can take so much fight and energy out of defenses. This game was it. unless the team can finish 11-0,10-1,9-2,8-3 the season is over and the way it is shaping hopefully we save face and make it to 8-8. Will this team should we drop too far out, finally sit Mark down and publicly blame him in this act and invest in Jason ??? I do think all this will come to pass.

[Alvin#40]

Originally Posted by MightyJoeGibbs

Unacceptable indeed. FUCK THEM. I never would have thought we would try to run so many counters against a team with a solid pair of DE's and 2 LB's. The weak spot was the middle of their DL and getting a blocker on Pierce should have been the point of attack. We acquired TJ who should have been implemented by now to combat and be payback to their defense in the same way Jacobs can take so much fight and energy out of defenses. This game was it. unless the team can finish 11-0,10-1,9-2,8-3 the season is over and the way it is shaping hopefully we save face and make it to 8-8. Will this team should we drop too far out, finally sit Mark down and publicly blame him in this act and invest in Jason ??? I do think all this will come to pass.

I agree with the run game analagy totaly my friend. Seemed like some plays Pierce wasn't even accounted for. Yet we still have these guys and the Boys at home, Tenn next week, we are just fine. Offense is learning still. D is HORRID. I know it's a stupid statement to talk of learning after what we did to Jaguars, but that was a home game, and our minds are always elsewhere in NY for some reason!!! I AM ANGRY!!..I dont think J. Cambell is not an answer at this point though. GW needs to re-evaluate his system with vs his talent. At least he stopped safety blitzes. Who knows what the answers are, but my finger is pointing to greg at the moment.

[Longtimefan]

We're not very good right now that's for sure, but we are what we are until we can get better. The question becomes, how do we get better? Can GW get the guys we have to play better, or is there a possibility of help from another source? It's difficult to make deals at this time in the season, and there aren't any good players walking the street. It could be we have to suffer with what we have until such time we can do better though that senerio does not offer us much hope for the immediate future.

[70Chip]

Can we all accept the fact that no one is going to trade us even a decent nickel-back at this point in the season? This is not fantasy football. We're stuck with the ones we have. No team that has decent corners is going to give us one in exchange for our third (possibly fourth?) running back. Help is not on the way. The only team foolish enough to allow top-flite corners to get away is the Washington Redskins.